Why is the Diana interview a bigger news story than the farmers being shafted over Brexit?

[JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil]

Just that really? Yes it’s an interesting story but the fact the deal means Australian farmers can sell their produce cheaper in the U.K. which will decimate British farming is a much bigger one.

Truss has to be the worlds worst negotiator. The Australians must be pissing themselves laughing. They have farms bigger than the U.K. and can flood the market.

[quote britnay]

I can categorically say to you that my concern is 100% for the land. I don’t want farmland and the countryside bulldozed over.

You seem very keen to make this about me hating random farmers though.

I’ve never pretended to be bothered about the financial circumstances of farmers just as I’m certain they aren’t bothered about mine. I’m also aware not all of them voted for Brexit.

This is a much bigger issue than whether Diana was tricked into an interview.

Princess Diana is much prettier than your average farmer, no matter how that farmer voted.

I only buy British wherever I can. It leads to waaaaay too many courgettes at times but I would never eat NZ lamb over Welsh or eat Dutch pork over Blythburgh pork. Anyone who really minds can do the same and support our farmers day to day.

The dreaded uncomfy chair didn’t have the desired effect I take it?

‘We’ (the electorate) voted for Brexit (just about) and for the Tories (repeatedly and increasingly) so you can’t really say we’re not getting what we asked for.

The supermarkets will display the cheaper meat next to the expensive meat. The public (including the ones always banging on about being patriotic) will mainly buy the cheaper foreign meat. The more expensive meat producer goes bust (especially as there will no longer be subsidies).

There is no longer any choice unless you only buy at the butcher and there’s only about two left in my local area as everyone shops at the supermarket.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

So because we already have warehouses you want everywhere else to be built over then I take it?

No I wrote to oppose almost all of it. It's got fuck all to do with Brexit though.

I can categorically say to you that my concern is 100% for the land. I don’t want farmland and the countryside bulldozed over. Focus on where you live. Do you live in the country? Farming isn't just beef and sheep farming. Not by a long chalk.
Farmers have been going out of business since the year dot and others take over. Farmers have been selling land for building since the year dot as well. Nothing to do with Brexit.

@WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld

No sympathy for farmers. All the farmers round me had their fields full of vote leave posters Let them get screwed

No need for that.

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who voted to leave and is now being shafted - the turkeys voted for Christmas. Besides, farming isn't good for the environment.

@derxa

I can categorically say to you that my concern is 100% for the land. I don’t want farmland and the countryside bulldozed over. Focus on where you live. Do you live in the country? Farming isn't just beef and sheep farming. Not by a long chalk. Farmers have been going out of business since the year dot and others take over. Farmers have been selling land for building since the year dot as well. Nothing to do with Brexit.

Exactly - the catastrophic future forseen by OP and some others on here has been our reality for some time. Locally farmland has been sold for a massive Amazon warehouse, thousands of houses and various logistics parks. It has nothing at all to do with Brexit, not least since most of it pre-dates the Brexit vote.

@savvy7

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who voted to leave and is now being shafted - the turkeys voted for Christmas. Besides, farming isn't good for the environment.

Wow what an original phrase - did you come up with that all by yourself?

As for your hilarious attitude to farming - what do you advocate as a replacement? Also what do you plan to do for food?

@parietal

the bbc always want to write about the bbc. they think they themselves are the most important thing.

Well, they also won’t want to be accused of not covering it, burying it etc.

@savvy7

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who voted to leave and is now being shafted - the turkeys voted for Christmas. Besides, farming isn't good for the environment.

So what do you intend to eat in the future then?

I'd laugh at the massive disconnect people have from the production of their food if it wasn't so depressing

We don't just razz around on tractors for shits and giggles you know.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

I know the farmers mostly voted for it and my concern isn’t so much for them, it’s for the countryside. If they go to the wall, then they’ll end up selling their land to developers. This is not good for wildlife or humans.

I’m pissed off they voted for it but them being shafted has potential wider consequences.

Farmers have been developing old barns and selling land for housing for decades. They voted for Brexit (like the fishermen) if it means they suffer, so what?

@savvy7

I don't have any sympathy for anyone who voted to leave and is now being shafted - the turkeys voted for Christmas. Besides, farming isn't good for the environment.

Do you eat mushrooms, tomatoes, potatoes etc. etc. All grown by farmers either here or in an another country

According to the Guardian, 83% of farmland is used for livestock. As I am vegan, I'd prefer the land to be rewilded anyway.

Can people stop saying 'Farmers Voted for Brexit'

Every single farmer on this thread has so far stated that they did not vote for Brexit and also knew many farmers that didn't vote for Brexit.

No one knows how farmers voted, any more than they know how teachers or firemen voted. The farming press was mostly pro-remain. There were a few polls done by the farming press/ NFU which basically showed that farmers voted in a way that was essentially representative of the national vote, my own interpretation of these results is that people in the farming community who were pro Brexit were more likely to vote in the polls and and be vocal about it than those who were pro remain (again, representative of what also happened nationally)

The EU’s subsidy rules led to great swathes of beautiful natural habitats being ploughed up in order to qualify for those subsidies. They don’t pay out for wilderness. There’s a nice long article in the Guardian about it @savvy7

@savvy7

According to the Guardian, 83% of farmland is used for livestock. As I am vegan, I'd prefer the land to be rewilded anyway.

I don't think you have the faintest clue what that would entail.

@savvy7

According to the Guardian, 83% of farmland is used for livestock. As I am vegan, I'd prefer the land to be rewilded anyway.

There is nothing vegan about arable farming I'm afraid.

Can people stop saying 'Farmers Voted for Brexit'

As an industry they did, down here it was approx 70/30 in favour of brexit.

But anyway, back to the OP, the Aussie deal is just another example of BoJo willing to sell out industries that he has finished with.

The BBC need to spend a bit of time reporting it but they seem to be part of the PR machine..

If they can rear and slaughter cattle and ship it half way round the world at less cost than than local farmers can, it pretty much sums up the standard of animal welfare.
I know someone who worked on a cattle ranch, the cattle are feral, herding corralling, dehorning is brutal - then shipped 100s of miles to slaughter houses, without water or breaks, you don't let hundreds of wild animals off a transporter once you've got them on - they'd go berserk.
It's up to the British shopper - but I won't buy it or US beef.

I buy British fresh meat regardless of the relative price and will continue to do so. There's been cheap New Zealand lamb on supermarket shelves for years, I don't buy it unless there's no British lamb available at all.

I try to buy as much as possible that is local and seasonal - so seasonal fruit & veg in particular.

@VicarOfWibbly

Princess Diana is much prettier than your average farmer, no matter how that farmer voted.

I only buy British wherever I can. It leads to waaaaay too many courgettes at times but I would never eat NZ lamb over Welsh or eat Dutch pork over Blythburgh pork. Anyone who really minds can do the same and support our farmers day to day.

Completely agree with you. Even as a single girl starting out, I would rather eat meat no more than once or twice a week because I was fussy about my food just as my parents were. My flatmate was a farmer's daughter and the exact same.

Quality over quantity every time.
But then I still strongly believe we shouldn't eat meat more than a couple of times a week.

I love non meat dishes, as they are often more creative.

British Farmers were always going to get screwed over with it. Same as fishermen.

That's why so much time was given over to convincing them that it would be brilliant.