New neighbour, terraced house, seems to expect silence

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New neighbour to my empty (atm) terraced property. As soon as moved in started sending me texts (got my number by asking previous neighbour she bought house off but that's a whole other thread) informing me there seems be a tv left on in the property.
She said l hope l didn't mind her texting me and she askedfor my number.
I texted prev. neighbours and queried whether their buyer knew my house was empty and she said yes as she had told her.
I have always got on very well with former neighbour so didn't 'pull her up' on giving out my number as was very out of character and just figured she got caught on the hop in what was a very stressful house move for unconnected reasons to this tale.
So l text back to new neighbour that yes l was aware and it was a radio left on a talking channel as the house was empty but thanks for letting me know.
Next day l get a phone call from her and she's all 'Hi (insert very shortened version of my name, which even the old neighbour never called me) and she tells me again the radio has been on all night (it hasn't its on a timer goes off about 11pm and a lamp comes on) because she ' can hear it ' l was l admit a little frosty with her as l was annoyed at these chummy texts and calls from someone who shouldn't even have my number and shouldn't have even asked for it imo though l accept old neighbour partly to blame.
I had to read between the lines at this point that she found it too loud so l said (without being asked) l would call next day, (which l did) and turn it down and move it to the far wall in the kitchen (no neighbours that side).
I've had another long text off her today after ld done all that saying can l please answer and confirm that l am going to turn it down (she wasnt in when l went round and obliged so obviously at this point didn't know l had already done so
) Whilst there l also checked upstairs l couldn't hear it wafting up the stairs which l couldn't whatsoever and l have good hearing. It is quieter than a normal volume speaking voice and you can only hear it after you've gone two doors into the house, it's about a volume 3 on Alexa equivalent.
Old neighbour when asked said couldn't hear it when l was in there and neither could l.
Shes rang me twice again now and l just ignored her in the hope she will text me and tell me what the fucks wrong now. She did then text saying she wants it switching off as she can still hear it.
She keeps bringing up that she works from home and l get impression she seems to think that means should be almost silence from neighbouring properties. Or maybe because the vendors told her my house was empty she had an expectation of it being completely silent.
If people moved in they would be entitled to watch tv, talk, have radio on etc and all at a higher wolume than one quiet radio. WWYD as she is really getting on my nerves now.
If l was a rude person l might suggest she should've bought a detached house maybe, but lm not.

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New neighbour, terraced house, seems to expect silence

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New neighbour to my empty (atm) terraced property. As soon as moved in started sending me texts (got my number by asking previous neighbour she bought house off but that's a whole other thread) informing me there seems be a tv left on in the property.
She said l hope l didn't mind her texting me and she askedfor my number.
I texted prev. neighbours and queried whether their buyer knew my house was empty and she said yes as she had told her.
I have always got on very well with former neighbour so didn't 'pull her up' on giving out my number as was very out of character and just figured she got caught on the hop in what was a very stressful house move for unconnected reasons to this tale.
So l text back to new neighbour that yes l was aware and it was a radio left on a talking channel as the house was empty but thanks for letting me know.
Next day l get a phone call from her and she's all 'Hi (insert very shortened version of my name, which even the old neighbour never called me) and she tells me again the radio has been on all night (it hasn't its on a timer goes off about 11pm and a lamp comes on) because she ' can hear it ' l was l admit a little frosty with her as l was annoyed at these chummy texts and calls from someone who shouldn't even have my number and shouldn't have even asked for it imo though l accept old neighbour partly to blame.
I had to read between the lines at this point that she found it too loud so l said (without being asked) l would call next day, (which l did) and turn it down and move it to the far wall in the kitchen (no neighbours that side).
I've had another long text off her today after ld done all that saying can l please answer and confirm that l am going to turn it down (she wasnt in when l went round and obliged so obviously at this point didn't know l had already done so
) Whilst there l also checked upstairs l couldn't hear it wafting up the stairs which l couldn't whatsoever and l have good hearing. It is quieter than a normal volume speaking voice and you can only hear it after you've gone two doors into the house, it's about a volume 3 on Alexa equivalent.
Old neighbour when asked said couldn't hear it when l was in there and neither could l.
Shes rang me twice again now and l just ignored her in the hope she will text me and tell me what the fucks wrong now. She did then text saying she wants it switching off as she can still hear it.
She keeps bringing up that she works from home and l get impression she seems to think that means should be almost silence from neighbouring properties. Or maybe because the vendors told her my house was empty she had an expectation of it being completely silent.
If people moved in they would be entitled to watch tv, talk, have radio on etc and all at a higher wolume than one quiet radio. WWYD as she is really getting on my nerves now.
If l was a rude person l might suggest she should've bought a detached house maybe, but lm not.

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I have every sympathy with your neighbour. Hearing that all day, never getting a break would drive me crazy, especially if I am trying to concentrate on work. Turn the blooming thing off - or, as someone else suggested, get on side with her, she is your neighbourhood watch!

You've left a radio on for 8 hours a day?! That would piss me off too! Is it on loud/against a party wall?

Have you checked the timer is still working? Do you check the house regularly? I'd also be concerned about fire safety if I were the neighbour

About 11pm or at 11pm? You may fall foul of noise nuisance bylaws if after 11pm

If the radio can't be heard outside, how is it helping to give the impression the property is occupied?

Yea this is what's making me think op not being completely honest about volume.

If it's to deter break ins it would need to be loud enough to be heard from outside which would mean it IS too loud to be reasonable for neighbours. If it's actually on fairly quiet - what's the point just turn it off!

Is the neighbour significantly younger than you and ex neighbour? If so they could well hear noise and tones that you don't

Also much more likely to sound louder early morning and late evening when everywhere else is quiet

You're determined NOT to acknowledge that you are disturbing your neighbours peaceful enjoyment of THEIR home.

If I were the neighbour I'd be seriously pissed off and I wouldn't be speaking to you any longer about it I'd be involving the council, which if she does this you have to declare to potential buyers I believe? Which could make it harder to sell and might mean you have to lower asking price, and as you claim it's already in a high crime area I'm guessing you can ill afford this to happen?

Oh for goodness sake. You CAN hear it from outside

Yea that suggests to me it IS too loud.

I have not heard from the ndn now since l first turned it down and moved it further from the adjoining wall. I have also since changed the last 'off' time to 10pm

That's good to know - but if you were right that it wasn't too loud etc none of that would have been necessary

I'd be very annoyed if I were living next door to such a set up and I'm well used to close living (I've lived in flats most of my adult life) but I have also had noisy neighbours and it's soul destroying.

Hopefully the matter is now resolved to the satisfaction of both parties.

radio can be a deterrent. When we were burgled, they climbed over the back garden wall and broke through the window. They would have turned back had they heard the radio

So...your radio didn’t work as a deterrent then?

Wow this thread is batshit.

All together now!
TURN IT OFF. TURN IT OFF.

Just who are the lunatics voting YANBU?!

[quote littlepattilou]@MLMsuperfan

If your neighbour applies for a noise abatement notice they'll likely get it because it's not reasonable to deliberately make noise from an empty property that is designed to be heard from outside. In fact if I was them I would get one now, because it will be a slam dunk.

@SakuraEdenSwan1

I think not when Police advice is to do this.

Don't be so ridiculous.

Yeah, police do occasionally advise people leave a radio on for a few hours if they're out for the evening. They do NOT advise people to leave the radio on all bloody day, and every day, when the property is completely unoccupied.

You would have to be some kind of inconsiderate, entitled muppet to do that! Leaving it for hours and HOURS every day, (when the house is unoccupied,) so the next door neighbour can hear it CONSTANTLY! It's a bloody noise nuisance, and disgustingly rude.

As I said, I hope the woman next door tells everyone about it, and it gets out that the property is empty...... How deliciously ironic that would be![/quote]
The radio comes on intermittently 4 times a day, try read the thread instead of arguing.

The neighbour has no legal right what so ever to complain about a radio being on next door, and let's get this perfectly clear, she is pushing her luck because she was told the house was empty. If she moved in and was non the wiser, she would not of complained.

All these posters telling you to turn it off would follow the same advice as you regarding securing your property. 11 PM is not late except for the Pearl clutches on here. I hope your new tenants do not tiptoe around their home because of her.

@mellicauli

So your neighbour is not allowed even 5 minutes of peace in her own home in the whole day. If I was them, I'd be making a sign saying "there's no one in at no 27, you know"

Then if the house was burgled you have incriminated yourself in the crime, if I lived next to you my sons band would be practicing every day right up to 11 Pm

she was told the house was empty. If she moved in and was non the wiser, she would not of complained.

Bunk. She knows the house is empty because she lives next door to it, not because someone told her. Lack of people going in and out is a bloody giveaway.

OP is not listening. I can't understand why she isn't.
This would bother me. Op says you can hear the radio from outside.
I suspect that the person next door can hear it even more through thin walls.
Why OP won't turn it off is beyond me. Or at least turn it down, and limit it to just 2 hours in the middle of the day.

I don't really get why it needs to be on if there is nobody in the house. If it's at a level not to disturb the neighbours, potential burglars wouldn't hear it until inside so I can't see it being much of a deterrent. You'd be better off with a CCTV set up that triggers if anything moves in front of it and messages you on your phone so you can drop in live.

What if you just tell her you turned it off to see if she’s really confusing it with other neighbours. If she can still hear it then possibly think of alternatives.

You really need to turn it off, its rediculous

YABVU

1. If the radio can't be heard from outside- what is the point
2. If the radio can be heard from outside, then it is disruptive.

11pm is far to late. Many people go to sleep at 9:30-10pm.

Keep a few lights on timers, but not a noisy distruptibe radio

Just turn the radio off, it’s obviously bothering her and seems pointless if you have alarm

@zzelda nah, I'd tell the police I thought I heard burglars in the house nexdoor

Just who are the lunatics voting YANBU?!

Not lunatics. Just hugely entitled people.

In my experience of neighbours, the ones who act like no-one matters except them are the same ones that expect everyone else to tiptoe around them. I hope OP has never felt disgruntled about any level of noise made my anyone else if she continues to think that she is being reasonable.

You have the radio on, for burglars, are you a time traveller from the 1980's, where people still do that? Just reminds me of the Peter Kay joke, where as soon as his mother put the radio on before going on holidays the burglars would boot the door in and dance around listening to the radio as they robbed your house.

@Biker47

You have the radio on, for burglars, are you a time traveller from the 1980's, where people still do that? Just reminds me of the Peter Kay joke, where as soon as his mother put the radio on before going on holidays the burglars would boot the door in and dance around listening to the radio as they robbed your house.

Exactly. It's something my parents would do. I'd hazard a guess that burglars will fall into two camps - addicts that couldn't care less if anyone was at home and will just break in anyway. Just read about one this morning in my local area, were the intruder has beaten the home owner when confronted. Slightly more organised burglars will scope out the property before breaking in, the latter will know the property is empty. A dead giveaway would be staking out your house at at 9.00am and returning later at 10.00pm to the same radio station. Total waste of time and just pissing off the neighbour.

If I were you I'd turn it off. It's bothering her and you don't live there. It's sounds like you've got good security and the lights as a deterrent, so the radio is unnecessary. We all have to put ourselves in other people's situations from time to time and if you were in this situation you'd want your neighbour to be reasonable. My neighbours are quite noisy, but it doesn't really bother me apart from the TV, which is on for long periods at night when I'm trying to get an early night. Some people can be sensitive to different types of noise.

YABVU

Radio on and off through the day until 11pm at night is completely unreasonable. How very selfish

@mellicauli

So your neighbour is not allowed even 5 minutes of peace in her own home in the whole day. If I was them, I'd be making a sign saying "there's no one in at no 27, you know"

Do read the OP's posts. The radio is only on intermittently. She has much, much more than 5 minutes' peace.

@FrameyMcFrame

What's the point of having a radio on for hours per day?

It's oppressive to hear constant talking.

A real neighbour would not talk constantly for 16 hours a day.

And another who hasn't read OP's posts. The radio is not on constantly for 16 hours a day.

About 11pm or at 11pm? You may fall foul of noise nuisance bylaws if after 11pm

Sigh. Read OP's posts. It is currently going off at 10 pm.

@Zzelda. Well its entirely dependant upon the burglar attempting to break in at the time the radio is playing. Another reason its is completely pointless.