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Identifying a pedophile to his neighbours

637 replies

Bipitybopityboop · 17/05/2021 23:20

If you found out, through work, that a pedophile was going to live on a certain street near you.
Would you anonymously let the neighbourhood know?

Would you want to know?

This could not be traced back to one individual.

OP posts:
Thelnebriati · 19/05/2021 10:41

There are several people murdered every year because they are falsely accused of being pedophiles.

theDudesmummy · 19/05/2021 10:42

People do not lose their human rights when they commit an offence, whatever the offence. You may very much wish they did, and it is your right to wish this, but factually they don't. One can lose specific rights in very specifically defined circumstances, eg losing the right to liberty when receving a custodial sentence, or the right to family life when being made the subject of an injunction not to contact your family etc. But other rights by default remain intact. As they should.

theDudesmummy · 19/05/2021 10:44

@Thelnebriati yes, a few murdered, and more harassed, injured, mentally damaged.

theDudesmummy · 19/05/2021 10:50

@IloveJKRowling the fact that CSA is sadly very very far from rare is really, at the bottom of it, my very point. Knowing that a convicted child sex offender lives in your neighbourhood is a pretty rare event, in comparison to the likely event that a child sex offender is living in your neighbourhood and you don't know. You can't rely on what you know and don't know.

cabbageking · 19/05/2021 10:57

The risk to your child is massively from your own family and friends and other parents at school who already live in your community. This is the same for rape and murder. The closest people are more a risk to you and any child than a random person

It depends on the age of the children and their lifestyle. How they are supervised and where they play. I would base any decision to tell the neighbours on personal circumstances.

There is a difference to a sensible decision and vigilantism and spreading gossip to all and sundry.
Last time your child had a sleep over did anyone every consider who was in that house, access to the child, if the child had capacity to understand or speak up? Did you ask about any previous criminal activity or ask around? Did you even consider the possibility?
We can can tunnel vision about a peadophile and not see signs of dangers closer to us. Lets just be sensible what ever we do.

Coatz · 19/05/2021 11:01

@Bipitybopityboop

Just think of a very large organisation with open plan offices. The information was verbally heard by and also digitally available to A LOT of people.

It's a convicted pedophile.

Unless absolutely EVERYBODY in this open plan office had specific reason to know this information this would be a massive breach of confidentiality.

As much as im sure everybody would like to see pedos eradicated off the earth unfortunately that is not possible and even more unfortunately the government thinks that they can just be rehabilitated back into society like 'normal' people.

I would want to scream it from the rooftops but you really can't.

Drunkenmonkey · 19/05/2021 12:36

I'm shocked about the huge breach in confidentiality as well. The OP has never said what his offence was or whether she even knows, so she would potentially be spreading vicious gossip about something she knows nothing about. I assume you don't hear details about a case shouted out across open plan offices.

CorianderBee · 19/05/2021 21:14

I wouldn't, people have been murdered for less and that could be traced back to your instigation.

RoseDelatour · 19/05/2021 21:30

I’d want to know. Those types of people don’t cure themselves, they’re sick to the core and it’s important that we can protect our young.

I do think you need to tread carefully around disclosing information that would jeopardise your job though. So if you’re 100% certain of the identity, I’d make it known anonymously.

JackANackAnoreeee · 19/05/2021 21:32

I don't know what I'd do with the information if I had it. It's not like I let random neighbours have access to my kids anyway. I'd not say anything (unless I thought he was a current threat in which case I'd tell the police).

gingganggooleywotsit · 19/05/2021 22:26

Yes I would definitely let the neighbourhood know, sorry. I can only presume those who voted YABU do not have young children. I would not give a toss about his/her right to privacy.

gingganggooleywotsit · 19/05/2021 22:29

If course only if my information was 100% accurate, beyond doubt.

Talkintothewall · 19/05/2021 23:13

I haven't read the full thread but from what you have posted OP I wouldn't.

I don't reach my answer as easily as some though. I am privvy to a lot of such information in my job and very aware of how often we unknowingly encounter such individuals.

However I have wrestled with specific knowledge that most definitely caused me to change my behaviour with my children and yet I haven't shared it. That was a very tough call. I think people are kidding themselves that they wouldn't change their behaviour re specific knowledge rather than general awareness.

MyOctopusFeature · 20/05/2021 00:03

@gingganggooleywotsit

If course only if my information was 100% accurate, beyond doubt.
Nothing is ever beyond doubt.

Just imagine if OP is wrong for a moment.

FaceyRomford · 20/05/2021 00:14

@Bipitybopityboop

It's not my job.
Then how come you found out "through work"?
Nickynackynooo · 20/05/2021 08:15

[quote ConfusedAdultFemale]@RoseRedRoseBlue my daughter was molested at 3, I don’t give one shining shit if how I view beasts that harm children is considered or mature Hmm[/quote]
I hope your daughter is ok and getting the help to move on from this. I don't blame your reaction at all

IdrisElbow · 20/05/2021 08:52

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reallyreallyborednow · 20/05/2021 09:21

*Nothing is ever beyond doubt.

Just imagine if OP is wrong for a moment*

Then imagine that it’s your son or husband in the same town with the same name that people decide is that convicted sex offender.

You need a police marker on your house. You need a fireproof letterbox. You still get grafitti and people throwing things at your windows.

Hertsgirl10 · 20/05/2021 09:35

I must be the only person that would want to know if a nonce is living next to me ...

Maybe if they didn’t get so much protection then they wouldn’t be constantly raping and tormenting babies & children.

I get the thing of people being targeted and getting it wrong, that’s awful and definitely shouldn’t happen, but maybe something needs to be done about where they put these animals... I get they have to go somewhere but maybe prison is the actual place they belong, you know after taking away children’s innocence and giving them this awful feeling for the rest of their lives.

I know that people have paid their crime but have they? They still continue to watch child porn they still kidnap children they chose to do these things, and they do keep doing it.

00100001 · 20/05/2021 09:42

But you're still missing the point @Hertsgirl10
Kidnapping children is incredibly rare. Whilst it's terrible these things happen,and yes 1 case is too many, the real risk comes from the trusted adult...the parents,the siblings, the extended family, the teacher, the activity leader etc.

And by "knowing" that they love down the road, means innocent people get attacked, it doesn't stop them being a paedophile, or doesn't protect your children, it serves very little purpose.

It's a bit like knowing that your neighbour is a convicted and serial burgler. You, in theory, are already locking doors, making things secure, expensive things out if view etc. What .orenare you going to do, that you wouldn't be doing already?

I know it's not the same level of seriousness,but honestly, what will "knowing" do for you?

How will you know 100% that they are a what Sally down the road has told you? She heard it from where?

00100001 · 20/05/2021 09:44

FWIW I do think they should never be able to return to the community.

However, the laws we live in don't allow for that,and we have to accept it, or change it...

Hertsgirl10 · 20/05/2021 09:56

If you a nonce living next door to you, would you allow your kids to play in the pool? Allow your babies and toddlers run around free with no clothes on like they do, when potty training.

If it doesn’t bother you that’s great but it’s not for me sorry.

Do you know what these sickos do with images of children? Innocent pictures taken from peoples social media?

I was reading only yesterday that a prison officer has had to wrestle from sick perverts, to get nappy and baby food adverts from them, in prison from a newspaper. Because they want to masturbate to the babies in the pictures. These are the people that get out and moved next door, not sorry not caring and will continue to do it.

I am more than aware that they are everywhere and live locally to everyone but that doesn’t mean this is how it should be.

Hertsgirl10 · 20/05/2021 10:13

I totally agree with all of this.

Every day I re post on my Instagram about child abuse and awareness ... some people have absolutely no idea about how bad it really is. I have child abuse survivors that on my Instagram that share their stories so that others are aware and it makes soo many people uncomfortable.

I have been blocked for saying the truth.

The pages I follow showing awareness get constantly blocked and taken down ... Snapchat accounts that sell child porn are kept up .. child and animal porn - combined.

Them accounts stay active stay posting but the few that are exposing always get deleted.
This just about sums up people’s attitudes in society.

These pathetic laws need changing and out children NEED protecting ... every single one of them.

Please go on YouTube and watch The eyes of the Devil.

Allington · 20/05/2021 10:23

If you a nonce living next door to you, would you allow your kids to play in the pool? Allow your babies and toddlers run around free with no clothes on like they do, when potty training.

I can guarantee that you have people living in your community who have committed sexual offences against children. They may or may not have been convicted.

Knowing about one specific person who has been convicted will not make your children any safer. You need to safeguard them from the people who are not known about and have not been convicted - then knowing about those who have been convicted is irrelevant.

Allington · 20/05/2021 10:26

For all those saying that those of us who are against disclosing the information 'aren't taking safeguarding seriously' - it is completely the opposite.

I know I need to protect my children from potential predators who have not been identified as a risk. If I do that, then I don't need to know that so-and-so down the road has a conviction - my children are protected against them just as much as the other people I don't know.

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