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AIBU?

To want to see Andy Burnham as Labour leader

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Rollercoaster21 · 08/05/2021 19:15

Aibu to think Andy Burnham would be a brilliant choice for Labour leader? Competent, passionate, unifying, relatable

(and also rather attractive 🤭😜)

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the80sweregreat · 08/05/2021 20:09

At least AB has charisma. In today's celeb / reality show media obsessed world it is important. Our PM has the X factor ( even if he is a sleaze bag) and people warm to him.
It all baffles me , but there you are.
A woman leader of the Labour Party would be great but I can't see that happening either :(

Rollercoaster21 · 08/05/2021 20:11

@adawong Zarah Sultana is particularly clear and passionate and someone I particularly like

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StillRailing · 08/05/2021 20:12

Not for me. I don't see him as passionate.
I see him as jumping on bandwagons: Hillsborough. Took him too long tbh.
I also remember Mid staffs.

I'm not local though so do not know about his successes as Mayor.

AIMummy · 08/05/2021 20:12

Yes but David Miliband would be better (if he ever came back).

StillRailing · 08/05/2021 20:13

I do t think starmer has been given long enough. Incumbents do well during a crisis.🤷

Shopliftersoftheworldunite · 08/05/2021 20:22

I want David Lammy.

SycamoreGap · 08/05/2021 20:22

No thanks - not a great leader and has made questionable decisions in the past. The fact that he won the Greater Manchester Mayoral election (that’s Greater Manchester not Manchester) comes as no real surprise given the voting population of Greater Manchester.

CaptainMerica · 08/05/2021 20:22

I disliked him when he ran against Yvette Cooper for leader, and really spoke down to her in debates. But I agree that he would be unifying in a way that its hard to imagine anyone else being.

Personally, I'd like YC, but i wouldn't wish it on her. I'd happily see Ed Miliband back - I think people should realise that they dismissed him too soon. He is still there, working hard, clearly doing it for all the right reasons.

adawong · 08/05/2021 20:23

Zarah Sultana
She is another leftie nutter, she nominated Rebecca wrong - daily in the last leadership contest.

Tealightsandd · 08/05/2021 20:25

Andy Burnham has a slick but very divisive campaign. He's all style and no substance. His main approach seems to be all about setting groups against each other. I think he's a clever fake.

Tealightsandd · 08/05/2021 20:27

He might pull it off though - becoming leader. Afterall, the ultimate in fakery and division (Blair) did.

Rollercoaster21 · 08/05/2021 20:27

@adawong leftie nutter???

The Labour Party is a left wing party 🙄

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Rollercoaster21 · 08/05/2021 20:28

@CaptainMerica yes, I like Yvette Cooper too and Ed Miliband.

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Haudyourwheesht · 08/05/2021 20:29

I thought he'd been involved in Hillsborough from early on.

Labour certainly need a change of direction. He's the only one I can think of that might command and respect.

StillRailing · 08/05/2021 20:31

Depends on your viewpoint I suppose.

Tealightsandd · 08/05/2021 20:31

@StillRailing

I do t think starmer has been given long enough. Incumbents do well during a crisis.🤷

I agree. He does need more of a backbone but if he manages to finds one, he could be the best of a bad bunch. His main problem is the media don't seem to like him.

StillRailing · 08/05/2021 20:31

It's just my personal take in him.
Slick sums him up imo.

Xansaf · 08/05/2021 20:32

You can think what you like. The only person they’ve got who would be halfway fit to lead a party is Yvette Cooper but there’s not really any point telling that to someone who wants Burnham in.

Besswess88 · 08/05/2021 20:33

YANBU

WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 08/05/2021 20:33

No way. He doesn't know what a woman is
I think KS does but he is too scared to upset momentum, the socialist (rape excusers) workers lot and the middle class identity crowd

gingercat02 · 08/05/2021 20:33

I said exactly this earlier. I think he is left enough to appeal to the trad Labour vote but modern enough to move the party on

StillRailing · 08/05/2021 20:34

I agree about Yvette Cooper being a better leader.

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sst1234 · 08/05/2021 20:36

Why what has actually achieved?

the80sweregreat · 08/05/2021 20:38

Y C is a remainer.
Labour need a leaver.
Someone who ' tells it like it is ' and can have a pie and a pint up the pub.
It's what people react to.
I'm sure they know all this deep down. It's a tricky one !!

gingercat02 · 08/05/2021 20:40

@StillRailing

I agree about Yvette Cooper being a better leader.

I really like Yvette but her dickhead husband would drag her down. No no no to a Miliband either of them!

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