To want to see Andy Burnham as Labour leader

[Rollercoaster21]

Aibu to think Andy Burnham would be a brilliant choice for Labour leader? Competent, passionate, unifying, relatable

(and also rather attractive 🤭😜)

[Tealightsandd]

Yeah the London bubble that Keir is from...that would be imaginary one, I assume. Seeing as he's not from London...
Or do you mean, where he currently lives? The bubble of very serious knife and gun crime? He's definitely surrounded by teenagers killing teenagers, in his part of London.

[User135644]

Burnham has stood before and lost out for leader, but he wasn't really the right candidate at the time.

He's the ideal opponent to Boris Johnson though. Boris's populism and man-of-the-people rhetoric wouldn't work against Burnham, particularly with northern voters.

Starmer is Boris's ideal opponent. A knight of the realm, a lawyer QC, no charisma, from the London bubble, Remainer who tried to stop Brexit. Pretty much ticks every box he could wish for. Boris has been very lucky by his opponents so far (similar in London up against Livingstone for Mayor).

[Tealightsandd]

[quote DanaCScully]@Tealightsandd there’s another one

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cityam.com/mps-expenses-labour-leadership-contender-andy-burnham-has-claimed-most-out-all-mps-so-far/amp/[/quote]
He's sounds a right greedy sod.

[Livoey]

I live in Greater Manchester and he is massively popular here, as the percentage of the vote shows.

[DanaCScully]

@Tealightsandd there’s another one

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.cityam.com/mps-expenses-labour-leadership-contender-andy-burnham-has-claimed-most-out-all-mps-so-far/amp/

[Tealightsandd]

Thanks for the link Dana
Burnham burning through the taxpayer's money, it seems.

[DanaCScully]

No.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/pay-these-expenses-or-my-wife-will-divorce-me-6770441.html%3famp

[Tealightsandd]

I think you're right @LWOTT

[LWOTT]

@Tealightsandd I totally get it. I worry we are being pitched against one another for sport and that pisses me off.

[TheHateIsNotGood]

Thornberry, Emily - Labour missed a beat on this one their last election - you need a 'bullish' character with some life experience and she fits the bill. I might vote for Labour if she fronted the Show.

[User135644]

@HavelockVetinari

I bloody wish Harriet Harmon wanted the job, but she doesn't

I dunno about Andy - I thought David Milliband would've been amazing, but the bloody unions* picked the wrong brother to back.

* I'm a union member. Just a disappointed one. Ed-fecking-Milliband! What a notion! (Not as bad as Corbyn though, the prick )

David Milliband is the biggest myth in politics to be honest. Ed had the better policies, David was more photogenic and slick. Perhaps he would have won in 2015 though, who knows?

[Tealightsandd]

@LWOTT

Well I can’t comment on that because I don’t live in London but as someone who visits regularly it’s quite obvious that the city is facing huge challenges that are not being met.

Sorry @LWOTT
My post wasn't aimed at you specifically. I'm just sick of hearing people, encouraged by the media, banging on about "London centric", when the consequences of that centricness have been so so devastating for Londoners.

As an aside, if anywhere else wants to take Corbyn (both brothers) you're all more than welcome. I'd say Blair too but he's already left (the mess he made).

Separately, I've just read Burnham thinks Starmer sacking Angela was a mistake. Doesn't say much about Burnham's judgement.

[User135644]

@Crunchymum

MN cannot seem to have a discussion about male politicians without resorting to discussing their appearance?

Why is this?

Because they all fancy Matt Hancock.

[User135644]

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing

It’s hard to say! Maybe his popularity stemmed from defying central government, but if he was the PM his USP would have deserted him, if that makes sense!

He said recently that being in parliament and government made him be someone he wasn't.

[OvaHere]

@the80sweregreat

I like David Lammy too.
I don't feel that Sir Kier Starmer is really that comfortable doing this job.
It wouldn't shock me if he went back to being a barrister one day to be honest.

I always get that vibe with him. Like he woke up one morning with no memory to find he was the Leader of the Opposition and was like "Shit. How did that happen?" but has to just play along with it anyway until he deciphers the secret code that will tell him who he really is.

Netflix screenwriters eat your heart out.

[Ritasueandbobtoo9]

Rather vacuous to want a leader based on looks???

[LWOTT]

Well I can’t comment on that because I don’t live in London but as someone who visits regularly it’s quite obvious that the city is facing huge challenges that are not being met.

[Tealightsandd]

Perhaps they don't. But they certainly don't understand or care about what's happening in London either.

[LWOTT]

I don’t envy anybody. I am simply saying that many people believe, rightly or wrongly, that London based politicians don’t fully understand the issues happening the regions.

[Tealightsandd]

So tell me. This obsession with politicians being supposedly 'London centric". What is it you envy?

The gang crime? The stabbings and shootings?

The extreme housing crisis - with the worst homelessness issues in the whole country?

Of families living in temporary accommodation, two thirds are in London. Rough sleeping is epic levels.

Families and individuals, including the vulnerable, priced out, forced away from their communities and support networks.

Yeah. London's really been looked after, hasn't it.

[LWOTT]

You know that’s not what I meant. I thought Starmer was from London. Corbyn moved there as a teenager, Blair did his pupillage there then practised in London.

[Tealightsandd]

And, they most definitely did not represent Londoners.

[Tealightsandd]

[quote LWOTT]@Tealightsandd They all lived and worked in London.[/quote]
Well yes. As Labour Party leaders. Andy would too. Definitely if he became Prime Minister. That's where parliament is based. It's the office.

[LWOTT]

@Tealightsandd They all lived and worked in London.