To think that a Rape Crisis centre should not have a transwoman CEO?

[ArabellaScott]

Mridhul Wadhwa has just been appointed CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis. The job was advertised as for women only. Mridhul is a transwoman (born male) without a Gender Recognition Certificate.

AIBU to think that women survivors of rape and sexual violence should be able to have a female only space?

theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2021/05/new-boss-for-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre/

Did you state that transwoman was female?

Oops. Typo. That a transwoman was female. I forgot the ‘a’.

However if a Transwoman states they are trans and acknowledges this and has 15 years of working to protect woman in a need of help. Protects their space from being invaded in their hour of need and maybe can also provide separate help for Transwomen, then I'd back this person for the job

So a trans woman is perfectly acceptable to be at the forefront of supporting women but a woman wouldn’t be able to support trans women? Is that what you’re saying here? Because if trans women are deserving of trans women in their safe spaces, why are women not deserving of women in their safe spaces?

@Bang4Bond

Out of all the jobs this person could have done they chose to work with rape victims ...

We don’t have insight into whether they themselves have been the victim of sexual assault. A lot of survivors go on to want to help others.

But either way, lots of people want to help others through experiences they haven’t been through themselves. Happily married couple counsellors. Oncologists who have never had cancer. Male obstetricians.

It’s not difficult to see what you’re implying here but it’s a dodgy road to go down.

It's [redacted] that a person applies to a job position that deals with vulnerable women and does so in an underhand way by omitting information that would exclude them.

@Racecation5577

I wasn’t aware that trans people weren’t able to be raped

Who said that?

Whats that got to do with the job being for women only as per the law?

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]Quote from.twitter today, which alleges that MW does not have a service-user-centred approach.

The new CEO of Edinburgh Rape Crisis, a transwoman, laughed at a survivor while she stood up in a meeting at the Scottish Parliament to talk about how she needed single-sex spaces; this mockery is abusive & was witnessed by MSPs. Today, @ChristinaSNP congratulated that abuser.

twitter.com/Leyanelle/status/1389176879035342850?s=19[/quote]
I was at that meeting. I can confirm that happened.

I’m of the belief that trans women are women

Why is that, ChameleonKola?

According to what definition of the word “woman” would that be true?

Not disputing your right to hold that belief, of course, just wondering how you arrived at it.

@BetterKateThanNever

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Because women who want spaces AWAY from men and don’t trust or like men are obviously trad housewives.

How does that make sense in your head?

"There's no transphobia on Mumsnet" they say.

"What rights do trans people not already have?" they say.

This thread has lots of people saying that somebody shouldn't get a job because they are trans. This is why trans rights activism is needed.

We don’t have insight into whether they themselves have been the victim of sexual assault. A lot of survivors go on to want to help others.

Yes, but what we do have insight into is the lack of empathy this specific person has towards women who value female only space for their recovery from male violence.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Female?

You think transwomen are female?

Beggars believe doesnt it

@Letsgetreadytocrumble

I do wonder if at some point during the process of receiving applicants and filtering candidates they realised that it really isn’t necessary to stipulate the gender or sex of someone in this job role, so decided to go ahead and appoint this person as the best one for the job, hoping nobody would notice.

When what they should have done is pulled the advert and started afresh without the stipulation that the candidate needed to be female.

How many of the posters on here are tradwives? So many act and speak as 1950's husbands would expect them to.

I have not met one in the past few decades myself. I think you show considerable hate toward women discussing the rights of females though. The rights needed to address the discrimination experienced by women and girls due to their sexed bodies. Discrimination experienced over millennia and still in abundant evidence today.

Yes. I do see a whole lot of hate leveled at women discussing those rights.

Finally we get to see a real feminist who really cares about all women's rights and strives to support all women.

Did you mean to be so offensive to the thousands of feminists who have set up and nurtured RCS and other women's organisations in Scotland (all of which are fully trans-inclusive, by the way) who would very definitely identify as 'real'.

Well i think it's great. So few males are ceos or in other positions of power, we need to address this. Oh wait..................

This thread has lots of people saying that somebody shouldn't get a job because they are trans.

Don't be disingenuous. It's clear why people are objecting to a male person getting this specific job. And this male person in particular.

The job was open to women only.
The charity doesn't exactly fill me with confidence if they couldn't even follow their own procedures.

@Mysterian

"There's no transphobia on Mumsnet" they say.

"What rights do trans people not already have?" they say.

This thread has lots of people saying that somebody shouldn't get a job because they are trans. This is why trans rights activism is needed.

Not being qualified - or suitable - for a job isn't transphobia, nor a human right

No, Mysterian, it's not because that person is trans. People are saying that the single sex exemptions of the equality act should apply.

Can any of the people who responded by saying ‘tw and men get raped too’ explain why women’s single sex spaces should be ended in order to provide support for tw /men, rather than providing specifically targeted support to these groups?

I was at that meeting. I can confirm that happened.

That’s horrific, PurgatoryofPotholes and SciFiScream.

Sadly, it’s not surprising.

How awful how many women there are these days who work with victims/survivors of abuse but are completely unable to recognise when they’re being abused themselves. Are even complicit in their own abuse. Very Stockholm Syndrome.

@Mysterian

"There's no transphobia on Mumsnet" they say.

"What rights do trans people not already have?" they say.

This thread has lots of people saying that somebody shouldn't get a job because they are trans. This is why trans rights activism is needed.

If I, as a committed atheist, apply for a job as a Christian missionary, and am turned down for it, is this evidence of discrimination against atheists?

This thread has lots of people saying that somebody shouldn't get a job because they are trans.

This post shows you have not read the thread and do not understand the EA2010.

This thread is about a male getting a job that was advertised for females. And if it was open to males, it should have said so to enable other males to apply.

I think you are clearly showing your own bias here.

@MrsWooster

Can any of the people who responded by saying ‘tw and men get raped too’ explain why women’s single sex spaces should be ended in order to provide support for tw /men, rather than providing specifically targeted support to these groups?

I’d really like to see an answer to this too.

Not sure how much skill MW has for the role, when MW can’t disregards an invoked single-sex exception. Same criticism applies to ERC.