Page 8 | To think 'celebrating your curves' is becoming a worrying trend?

EmeraldShamrock · 01/05/2021 23:38

I'm not well informed on diabetes but I know when a person is on the cusp of it diet changes make a difference, it is far more common in overweight people and a huge cost for treatment and transport.
My DM was obese and suffered clots and a pulmonary embolism along with many mobility issues and heart problems towards her end, she didn't become obese until her 50's menopause.

tecatea · 01/05/2021 23:41

I think there’s room for a debate regarding the public health time bomb that’s ticking with regards to this subject without mentioning your friends and what they post about their weight on Facebook

Yeah an ageing population...

AbsentmindedWoman · 01/05/2021 23:43

I'm not well informed on diabetes but I know when a person is on the cusp of it diet changes make a difference, it is far more common in overweight people and a huge cost for treatment and transport.

Sometimes diet can stop type 2 diabetes in its tracks. Not always. Sometimes, the die is cast because of genetics.

You cannot prevent or reverse type 1 diabetes with diet or life changes.

AbsentmindedWoman · 01/05/2021 23:47

I'm not well informed on diabetes but I know when a person is on the cusp of it diet changes make a difference, it is far more common in overweight people and a huge cost for treatment and transport.

The 'huge cost for treatment' could be eased if the NHS would fund diabetes care properly. Which they will not do.

You cannot manage diabetes efficiently without proper tools.

Diabetes IS a time bomb and we really need to stop the bullshit pretence that it's easy to 'control'. It isn't. You need tools and a comprehensive education, most people don't have access to these resources.

lulugee · 01/05/2021 23:48

Haven't RTfT but how is it a nasty thread? It's the truth I am FED UP with obesity being normalised,

Let's normalise drugs, smoking and excessive alcohol consumption shall we? What it the difference with obesity?

It is the second most common cause of death FFS people need to stop being in denial

Happymum12345 · 01/05/2021 23:51

Being body positive whatever your shape or size is good. I understand what you’re say though op, I lost weight for health benefits and the difference is huge. It’s hard to understand how you can celebrate being overweight when it’s so uncomfortable.

motherloaded · 01/05/2021 23:53

You cannot have a discussion about healthy body weight or healthy diet without being called a "fat-shamer" immediately. Usually by people who are very quick to abuse someone slim!

It is very worrying and very wrong.

JayDot500 · 01/05/2021 23:59

My thin healthy grandmother died 20 years younger than my overweight diabetic one. I'm just going to live and not concern myself with how other people find happiness within their own skin. Yes, we can inform/support people to lead healthier lives, but there is nothing 'worrying' about an increase in self-esteem.

FrankButchersDickieBow · 02/05/2021 00:27

I don't think ANYONE should be judged on their weight. It's disgusting that one human would actually look at another human and feel superior because their bmi is in the healthy range.

Will people please look at themselves and stop judging. We frown in sexism, racism, homophobia, ageism (although rife on mumsnet) all the 'isms', but somehow people who are overweight or 'too skinny, seem to be fair game.

There are lots of issues related to both, so let's all just have a bit more empathy and understanding hey, rather than being judgemental bastards.

crimsonlake · 02/05/2021 00:32

I am over weight for my height, not by a lot but enough to make me feel uncomfortable in my jeans..a good few pounds to lose around my stomach. People I work with say I am skinny, but in reality that is because they are a lot larger than me.

Mojoj · 02/05/2021 00:39

There's nothing normal about being fat. There's no celebration of being fat. Sick of this shit. Eat less. Do more. No need to spend a fortune. That's it.

Susannahmoody · 02/05/2021 00:40

Op is actually right. The UK is a ticking time bomb when it comes to overweight people.

Regardless of how you view it, the UK has a problem and it will continue to get worse unless people take responsibility for their own health and weight.

Yes, you can all say, shame on you OP, what a nasty post : but she's objectively correct.

Mytiredeyeshaveseenenough · 02/05/2021 00:42

Just think of how many Pounds would be freed up for the NHS if people stopped piling on the pounds.

There's a difference between not being perfect and being morbidly obese, it's not difficult to see.

newrubylane · 02/05/2021 00:43

@Adrianneanneanne

Being slim is shoved down girls Necks from a young age that they must be slim to be beautiful and then we wonder why we are in an eating disorder crisis

Do we though? Because I finished secondary 4 years ago and was called lanky, flat, little boy, tranny etc.

Maybe 10-20 years ago but the trend now is very much curvy/thick. I ate huge portions to try and gain weight.

Some people do still suffer so I don't want to gloss over that, but thin is most definitely not in anymore.

I can confirm that I was called all of these things when I was in my teens twenty years ago as well - and that was back when being thin was supposedly the height of fashion. I've never understood the argument that teenage girls desperately want to be skinny. In my experience mid-teenage girls (14-16 ish) want to look older - and that means boobs, curves etc.

Cleverpolly3 · 02/05/2021 01:20

@tecatea

I think there’s room for a debate regarding the public health time bomb that’s ticking with regards to this subject without mentioning your friends and what they post about their weight on Facebook

Yeah an ageing population...

Not sure what you mean?

CatRamsey · 02/05/2021 01:24

As a morbidly obese person this post has reminded me how utterly vile and repulsive I am.

AbsentmindedWoman · 02/05/2021 01:48

@CatRamsey

As a morbidly obese person this post has reminded me how utterly vile and repulsive I am.

I'm so sorry @CatRamsey you are not vile and repulsive - you are a human being worth as much as anyone else, and deserving of dignity and respect

HarryElephante · 02/05/2021 05:19

I don't know about celebrating curves, but there are already too many overweight people in the UK. Eat less, folks.

OloBo · 02/05/2021 05:45

Everyone should try to love themselves as they are and cannot believe anyone would see that as a bad thing. Yes, being overweight has health implications, but should make no difference to how worthy of self love someone is. In my mind, the desire to make changes for your health can only really happen if you love and accept yourself as you are first.

Jamboree01 · 02/05/2021 05:52

@Freesunglasses

So many of my overweight 'friends' on facebook are joining in the whole "I'm embracing my curves and loving this body, every inch" The thing is they are Obese, not use a little overyweight but really fat. The more people see and read things like this the more it will become normalised.

Worrying times ahead I think. We're going to be a very fat country in the not too distant future.
I know it's hard to lose weight. I know lockdown has made lots put weight, I'm a little overweight myself but I will never say I'm happy with it because I'm not! I like being thin, I want to be thin.

For the love of God stop normalising and celebrating obesity.

Have you got a lot of time on your hands OP? If so, take some time to love yourself instead of this.

People are individuals, not a country. Their weight and shape are their own business.

For the love of god, leave people alone

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/05/2021 06:02

I agree OP and I am overweight myself.

I don't hate myself but I know it would be better for my health to lose weight. There's a difference between being overweight and having "curves" as well, I am not curvy, curvy means hourglass shape with hips and boobs, not a jelly belly like I've got!

motherrunner · 02/05/2021 06:06

@OloBo

Everyone should try to love themselves as they are and cannot believe anyone would see that as a bad thing. Yes, being overweight has health implications, but should make no difference to how worthy of self love someone is. In my mind, the desire to make changes for your health can only really happen if you love and accept yourself as you are first.

Absolutely this.

OP, would you rather every overweight or obese person be utterly miserable and full of self-hatred? Yes, it is unhealthy to be that overweight. I know, I was obese and then lost weight through diet and running and now have maintained a low bmi for 20 years. But I’m actually as unhealthy as I was then - I swapped one addiction for another. I went from over eating to not eating because I have never really tackled my mental heath issues. Maybe by developing their self worth they will lose weight as a byproduct.

georgarina · 02/05/2021 06:12

Yes I agree. The people saying 'Ohhh so you're saying they need to cower away in shame' are deliberately missing the point.

There's a trend for body acceptance which is a GREAT thing overall, especially after how toxic the 90s/early 2000s was, but that shouldn't mean the other extreme is celebrated as healthy and ok - especially when it's become more and more of an issue.

Because it is unhealthy, leads to a lot of comorbidities and a shorter life span, and to be in denial about it is going to cause a lot of problems. It's just like smoking or any other health issue - you don't need to be sad and ashamed, but be realistic that it's not healthy, take steps to change, and don't pretend that it's all fine.

I have PCOS so I know how hard it is to lose weight and get healthy. I could have just said 'I love myself this way' and not changed, but I put the effort in and it was so worth it.

I also know how toxic self hate and shaming is, and I would never advocate a culture of body shame - it's counterproductive and makes you feel terrible and powerless, and only leads to you feel less strong when it comes to changing. So positivity definitely - but with a dose of reality.

So yeah overall I think positivity and loving yourself is great, but not denial of a serious health issue.

sunshinesontv · 02/05/2021 06:13

I haven't rtft but feel that it depends on how curvy the curves are.

A size 14 woman, within a healthy weight, celebrating her curves and being proud of her body is a wonderful thing and shows the world that a normal-sized body - as opposed to an unhealthy, underweight ideal that many teens in particular seem to aspire to - is beautiful.

An obese person celebrating their curves is really just celebrating unhealthy eating habits, sickness and premature death. Nobody wants to fat shame, and everyone should be able to go through life free of judgment and mockery, but I do not feel like this in itself is anything to celebrate as such.

VivienScott · 02/05/2021 06:22

I’m classed as underweight and got years got quizzed every time I went to the GP. However, there seems to have been a change in that, so long as Im healthy, capable of doing things ‘normal’ sized people can do, on the basis it’s how I’ve always been, it’s fine.
I think that’s the difference, anyone of any weight who is healthy, can move around freely, had enough energy etc should be able to accept who they are. However, if your weight gets in the way of this, then you should not be celebrating anything, you should try and fix it.