Page 18 | To not get why people refuse to exercise?

SchrodingersImmigrant · 01/05/2021 12:26

Do you not wear a sports bra? I have small boobs, but if I do yoga in a normal bra it's very uncomfortable and stretches it it out of shape.

As someone with giant boobs I already had that for other activities. If someone needs sports bra, ok it adds 20 something. Still not prohibitively expensive for most people.

dotdashdashdash · 01/05/2021 12:26

@Ariannah

Exercise is not expensive there are so many high quality free work outs on You Tube And your kids let you do these workouts without climbing on your back, or sobbing because you aren’t playing Lego with them, or getting in the way so you end up hitting them in the face with a dumbbell? And the kids let you have a shower afterwards too, without banging on the door or climbing in with all their clothes on?

Do you live in my house? It's sounds like you do 🙂

Ariannah · 01/05/2021 12:28

but coming up with "it's expensive" when you can actually workout for free at home is just not right
If I don’t go out of the house to exercise at a place where there are no kids, I won’t be able to exercise. My kids will not permit me to exercise at home. Or watch tv. Or even take a shower in peace. Let me guess, you’re one of those who has loads of free family childcare so you can do whatever you want?

SchrodingersMother · 01/05/2021 12:32

OP if you don't mind me asking, what exercise have you found helpful? I'm 19st and have no energy, aching joints and no money to join gym. Running is out of the question until I've lost weight as it would be too much on my joints.
I'd really appreciate some advice from someone who's been there

LuaDipa · 01/05/2021 12:33

I get it that exercise is hard and can make you uncomfortable and sweaty but for the benefits to your body that’s a small price to pay surely?

I love exercise but I think yabu. It’s wonderful that you have found something that has worked for you, but it’s unfair to hold yourself up as an example for people who haven’t asked to be motivated. You should quite rightly be proud and happy about your achievements, but you don’t have to push them on others. They are perfectly capable of making their own choices, just as you are capable of making yours.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 01/05/2021 12:35

@Ariannah

but coming up with "it's expensive" when you can actually workout for free at home is just not right If I don’t go out of the house to exercise at a place where there are no kids, I won’t be able to exercise. My kids will not permit me to exercise at home. Or watch tv. Or even take a shower in peace. Let me guess, you’re one of those who has loads of free family childcare so you can do whatever you want?

No. I didn't have any so I can do whatever I eant. But even I know kids actually sleep.

As I said. It's fine to say "I don't want to do it" that's it. There are millions of parents who manage it eveen without the childcare. If someone doesn't want to work out even for 20 min, fine, don't. Just stop with all the bit olympics

Ariannah · 01/05/2021 12:37

But even I know kids actually sleep
😂🤣😂🤣 Can you please come and tell my kids that?! Funnily enough I don’t feel like exercising at 10pm when I’ve been up with them since 8am.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 01/05/2021 12:41

Most people seem to find time to be on social media and watch tv, but not time to exercise

Well today I have

Hoovered the whole house = exercise
Mowed the lawns = exercise
Walked up to the post box = exercise
Now I'm going to wash the carpets and upholstery = exercise

I fail to see how that is any less than standing on one leg with my arms outstretched. Just because I'm not doing something you deem worthy of the term, doesn't mean I'm not exercising.

Meruem · 01/05/2021 12:55

Years ago I actually got addicted to exercise to the point where I was spending 6+ hours a day doing it. I didn’t have time for anything else. Friends would suggest meeting up but my “routine” was more important. I felt stressed to the extreme if anything came up that meant I couldn’t do my full quota that day. Exercise was all I thought about and I became extremely underweight ( I was fine with food, ate normally, just too much exercise). It actually destroyed my MH rather than improve it. A very good friend finally got through to me and I managed to stop, but it was hard.

For that reason I would never go to a gym or anything like that now. I would be too worried about slipping back into my old ways. Now I try and make exercise part of an activity, rather than it being the sole focus. Like a walk in the woods, or playing just dance on the PlayStation! At this point I could maybe do with exercising a bit more than I do but I couldn’t risk becoming obsessional about it again.

Wtfdidwedo · 01/05/2021 13:11

Yeah time wise I have two under 5s. They wake at 6.45, we leave the house at 7.30am every weekday and I pick them up at 5.30pm-6ish. Then we have dinner bath and bed.

The only time I could exercise alone is every other weekend when my husband's off, which is time I use to catch up on the washing and cleaning, and spending time with the family I barely see 5 days a week. My children take up to 2 hours to fall asleep every night. I managed three solo bike rides last summer, then it got too dark to go after 8pm.

TaraR2020 · 01/05/2021 13:19

@SchrodingersImmigrant
Home exercise videos and yoga practice certainly have their place but (and especially if needing to accommodate an injury or disability) what they don't do is ensure you're using correct technique.

And poor technique leads to a whole host of other difficulties.

PurpleDaisies · 01/05/2021 13:32

[quote TaraR2020]@SchrodingersImmigrant
Home exercise videos and yoga practice certainly have their place but (and especially if needing to accommodate an injury or disability) what they don't do is ensure you're using correct technique.

And poor technique leads to a whole host of other difficulties.[/quote]
I agree. I love my Les mills subscription but I’ve done lots of classes before and had a pt help with the right form for weights. It is also harder without a mirror to check you’re in the right position.

ZaraW · 01/05/2021 13:33

@Ariannah

Exercise is not expensive there are so many high quality free work outs on You Tube And your kids let you do these workouts without climbing on your back, or sobbing because you aren’t playing Lego with them, or getting in the way so you end up hitting them in the face with a dumbbell? And the kids let you have a shower afterwards too, without banging on the door or climbing in with all their clothes on?

Wake up earlier and do exercise then. That's what I did as a single parent.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 01/05/2021 13:52

Ok. I loose. I take it back. Exercise is expensive and unachievable for most even without health issues.

nanbread · 01/05/2021 13:57

Wake up earlier and do exercise then. That's what I did as a single parent.

My 5yo wakes at 5am... No way in hell I'm getting up before then

Graphista · 01/05/2021 14:24

I’ve had lifelong depression and an anxiety disorder so know quite a bit about MH thanks

You know about YOUR mh issues doesn't make you qualified to comment or advise on others

Mumsnet can be absolutely fucking shit about disability sometimes and this thread is an example

Totally agree

It's not about exercise, it's about manners.

Absolutely

I missed the 3 hours a day op commits to exercise but again will say she sounds close to addicted, addicts tend to try and get others to join them in their addiction in order to make themselves not appear to be outside the norm and convince themselves they're not addicted - that applies to all addictions.

I also agree that the majority of full time working adults especially parents and carers simply don't HAVE 3 hours a day to waste on excessive exercise

And yes pps eating habits also sound concerning - there's such a thing as "thin outside fat inside" which I have seen myself as a nurse, mainly in men who over exercise to mitigate a bad diet who have sky high cholesterol, blood pressure etc. One such person had been admitted due to a heart attack and took some convincing it WAS a heart attack because "but I'm not fat" he wasn't fat externally but in terms of organ and heart health thanks to a high fat diet he very much was a prime candidate he was actually lucky it was a relatively "minor" heart attack,

@Meruem I'm so sorry you went through that. It's not properly recognised in this country as yet. As I say I've seen it with my relative and they had a real struggle finding support to overcome it

what they don't do is ensure you're using correct technique.

And poor technique leads to a whole host of other difficulties.

Absolutely. It was videos in my day and often celebrities with fuck all knowledge about anatomy or safe exercise making the videos with little to no expert advice involved. Many a visitor to a&e was someone who hadn't exercised formally for decades and threw themselves into doing a full video with poor technique who'd injured themselves

GreyhoundG1rl · 01/05/2021 14:30

My 5yo wakes at 5am... No way in hell I'm getting up before then
What time do they go to sleep at?

Thewinterofdiscontent · 01/05/2021 14:31

@SchrodingersMother

OP if you don't mind me asking, what exercise have you found helpful? I'm 19st and have no energy, aching joints and no money to join gym. Running is out of the question until I've lost weight as it would be too much on my joints. I'd really appreciate some advice from someone who's been there

It’s 80/20 diet though. Basically cut down on your food and be more active generally . No sitting down all evening for example, walk everywhere, always be doing something. I was two stone overweight and frankly none of the exercise made any difference until I cut all the crap food out and increased my vegetable and unprocessed protein. Once I lost a bit of weight you could see the difference in tone and I wasn’t justifying the extra food because I had run for an hour.

lazylinguist · 01/05/2021 14:52

Home exercise videos and yoga practice certainly have their place but (and especially if needing to accommodate an injury or disability) what they don't do is ensure you're using correct technique.

Some types of exercise like yoga and pilates do require correct technique, others are more forgiving. Bopping around to a bit of Zumba or whatever really doesn't require expert coaching. In any case, lots of beginners' yoga videos give plenty of pointers about what not to do and how to position yourself to avoid injury etc.

OP if you don't mind me asking, what exercise have you found helpful? I'm 19st and have no energy, aching joints and no money to join gym. Running is out of the question until I've lost weight as it would be too much on my joints.
I'd really appreciate some advice from someone who's been there

You don't need to run. Anyone who is unfit and overweight will raise their heart rate and sweat a bit just from brisk walking, especially uphill. It's much much less stressing on your joints and only requires a pair of trainers.

I'm not unfit and am only a bit overweight. Since having to give up running due to niggly joint pain, I've started speeding up my daily dog walks instead - it definitely makes me fitter.

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JumpingJacky · 01/05/2021 15:49

Thewinterofdiscontent

SchrodingersMother
OP if you don't mind me asking, what exercise have you found helpful? I'm 19st and have no energy, aching joints and no money to join gym. Running is out of the question until I've lost weight as it would be too much on my joints. I'd really appreciate some advice from someone who's been there

It’s 80/20 diet though. Basically cut down on your food and be more active generally. No sitting down all evening for example, walk everywhere, always be doing something. I was two stone overweight and frankly none of the exercise made any difference until I cut all the crap food out and increased my vegetable and unprocessed protein. Once I lost a bit of weight you could see the difference in tone and I wasn’t justifying the extra food because I had run for an hour.

@Thewinterofdiscontent The PP wasn’t asking for weight loss tips though was she? Everyone knows how to lose weight and how bloody hard it is. If the PP waits until she’s lost weight to start exercising she may never start. This thread was not about weight loss. Me losing 6 stone was a happy side effect of taking up exercise which made me feel better about myself physically and mentally, which then made me want to take care of myself through my diet too. I didn’t/don’t count calories. I just started eating healthier and drank lots more water than I would have normally. I wouldn’t have done that if I hadn’t felt better through exercise.

ShrodingersMother I started out on a crosstrainer. It’s really the only very low impact cardio that I would use at that weight. Jogging is out. Even brisk walking will probably result in painful ankles/knees and side of feet you try to do a distance that will have any effect IME. With a treadmill you get still get impact and a bike will be hard on knees and upper thighs. The stepper and rowing machine are not something to start out on IME again!

It’s difficult if you can’t get to a gym and can’t get a crosstrainer at home as they are prohibitedly expensive unless you can get a 2nd hand one. Are you really sure you can’t get to a gym? You can get cheap memberships now at some gyms. Try to get prescribed it via your GP? It’s so important at your weight to do something that’s not going to injure you or cause pain because you’ll just give it up quickly, quite rightly.

My gym is very clean. There have wipes and spray for all the equipment. I was very, very self conscious when I started but no one really took any notice of me. Lots of notice when my hard work started showing though which was nice. I made sure I wore long line t-shirts/vest tops as I was conscious of my massive belly and was anxious that my top might ride up . Matalan do some cheap long line vest tops (£4) that are my staple now. Also wear Lycra leggings not joggers. Much cooler and more comfortable than jersey joggers. I don’t wear expensive trainers as not necessary as I’m not doing anything high impact.

I started the crosstrainer on Level 1 and started slowly. I could hardly bear 5 minutes at first and felt like I was going to have a heart attack just doing that but I could feel my back muscles warming up while doing it so kept at it. Gradually I increased it 6 minutes then up to Level 2 etc. I didn’t have any aches and pains afterwards as I started slowly and theres no impact on joints really. I also started on the weight machines at very low weights at low reps. Got a programme set up. 3 years later I can easily do 5 minutes in a row on the highest level (25) on the crosstrainer and do HIIT on it beating the shit out of it. I do cardio on the crosstrainer, rowing machine and fast walking on treadmill at the highest incline. Then I do weights. Swim if I have time afterwards as my body feels much more ‘fluidy’ after swimming. I workout 3 times a week now but in the beginning I was going everyday for my back. I can run now and did some in lockdown before I got a crosstrainer at home, but I could really feel it in my back. At least I know I can do it now and save it for emergencies only!

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SchrodingersMother · 01/05/2021 16:17

Thank you that's very helpful! My husband and I have been talking about getting some kind of exercise machine at home so I will look into a cross trainer :)

OwlBeThere · 01/05/2021 16:19

@Countrygirl2021 I pay tax too. I pay tax that goes toward the people who injure themselves doing sport, the smokers who get cancer or copd, the drinkers who get alcohol induced illnesses, and so I should: that’s how a tax payer medical system works. So If I need medical care because of my life style then I’m as entitled to care as the next person.

dotdashdashdash · 01/05/2021 16:26

ZaraW one of mine wakes up at 5.30am and the other at 6.30. they go to bed at 7.30 and 9pm. By the time they've gone to sleep and I've done the housework and got their bags ready for the next day it's gone 10pm and I'm ready for bed. If I do workout then I end up having difficulty going to sleep and I'm tired the next day. From next week I'm no longer doing 13 hour shifts so 2 or 3 times a week DH and I should both be home and I can probably do some hiit. But then when does he get to work out as well.

How on earth OP finds time to do 3+ hours exercise a day I've no idea.

georgarina · 01/05/2021 16:41

I love exercise but it's not just about time - it's energy.

I work a full time job and I'm a single parent. Yeah I might have an hour free in the evening but by then I'm shattered.

PurpleDaisies · 01/05/2021 16:54

I find a cross trainer hurts my knees. They’re not a magic bullet for everyone.