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DP indiscretions- acceptable?

91 replies

Orangegrovea · 29/04/2021 11:47

Apologies this is a long one...

Two years ago I discovered on my partner's phone the following:
A secure folder set up, containing his Tinder account (still active though not used for a long while)
A search ' how to receive my messages in a Secure folder '
Searches for national and local escorts
Plus I discovered that after we had been together for 6 months he had set up an account on Adultwork, though this had not been used.

Obviously this absolutely devastated me, we argued, cried, fought about it for a long time, many, many times.

He explained countless times that it was curiosity, he would never have approached another woman, he loves me etc.

I've been very guarded since but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship & he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened, he's a loyal, practical man who never criticises me and allows me to be myself in the relationship, it's a really 'easy relationship for me in comparison to former partners who were either jealous or cheats. He hasn't had anywhere near the amount of partners I have had & is quite innocent in some ways.

More recently however I saw his Instagram account which although was historical had hundreds or semi-naked women on - I made him delete the lot. Then a year or so ago he set up a Tiktoc account, again I saw he had hundreds of women on there. I was fuming. Yes I became a proper vigilant control freak & would check his phone, my heart racing.

I simply can't get over what he did though, it tortures me everyday in varying degrees.
What really gets to me is the fact that he's quite shy & not at all adventurous in bed & rarely compliments me or 'enjoys ' my body, we just have very vanilla sex, yet he was looking at all these images of other women in very sexual poses. What a fucking insult to me. I have no doubt that he loves me & he has told me that I'm beautiful (though doesn't shower me with compliments).

So what is he, sexually repressed? Shy? We communicate very openly so he knows I would do anything sexually if he asked. He never goes down on me anymore having done it the first time we slept together & never asks for blow jobs, in fact he almost gets shy when I give him one.

So after 4 years together (living together for 3) I find myself wondering if I'm in love with him anymore. I think I've lost respect for him after the escort searches & other stuff which has killed the love.

Has anyone else been in this situation & made a success of the relationship long-term?

He describes me as very jealous & says its normal for any male to look at images of attractive women, but promises not to do it anymore as he knows it will upset me. But how long can he keep it suppressed if that's in his nature?

I hate him for ruining things, and this often comes out in the form of sadness, moodiness, anger from me. It feels like a sort of grieving for what could have been had this not ever happened. We were so, so in love at the beginning but when I think that he was leaving me after a date to probably go home & look at images of other women it makes me sick, & ruins my memories. He says I overthink, & it's true I was very insecure at the beginning of our relationship, though now I'm very confident.

I'm at a crossroads because I don't want to delude myself or waste my life with a man who has this 'need' , not to be unfaithful but to what I call 'perve' at other women.

When I want to discuss or ask about it he just gets angry and says he thought we were past all this? But then why recently add all the women on Tiktoc, knowing that I would hate it? He thinks it's harmless but I think it's a fucking stupid thing to do plus it disrespectful to me. I feel like a fool.

What is the matter with him? I know I'm an attractive woman & people have commented on the fact that I could do better but I loved (or loved) him for his sweetness, kindness & intelligence plus we share the same sense of humour & laugh a lot together. He's very transparent in many ways, he's given me complete access to his bank accounts & I can transfer money whenever I need it.

I'm struggling to reconcile the man I know with the behaviour he has shown in secret which I think is seedy.

This is destroying me as a person , I know that now, but is it worth giving it all up for his past misdemeanours which don't actually involve any cheating?

I used to be able to access his phone for the past couple of years & he was fine with this, but because I would interrogate him after finding the slightest thing he changed the passcode, which in a bizarre way was almost a relief for me because I didn't feel like a shit person for looking through his phone & didn't live with the fear of finding something that would upset me. He would go to counselling if I pushed it but I would be too embarrassed in case the counsellor thought I was a complete idiot as what he's done is glaringly obviously not what a decent guy in a loving relationship who do.
What would you do?

AiBU towards him?

OP posts:
TheGumption · 29/04/2021 11:49

You surely know the answer already? End it.

EverdeRose · 29/04/2021 11:52

Yeah, he's cheating on you, that's why he's changed his pass code on his phone. The fact you've now had the same row about women, just over different SM platforms cements it for me.

I couldn't stay with someone like that. You're setting yourself up for a lifetime of misery.

Sally872 · 29/04/2021 11:53

Historic Instagram and tiktoks wouldn't bother me. The original secure folder and searching for escorts would though.

His behaviour is not acceptable to you. And now you are also behaving unreasonably. You can't monitor and control him, and you don't trust him. Doesn't sound like a good relationship.

iloveruby · 29/04/2021 11:55

There is nothing to save in this relationship. Even if he hadnt been looking at adultwork etc you are obviously unhappy and he doesn't treat you well.
Go be with someone who makes you smile, appreciates you (including your body), doesn't lie to you or objectify other women.

Wuurg · 29/04/2021 11:57

Whyyyy are you wasting your time with someone who blatantly disrespects you?! Seriously OP.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/04/2021 11:58

This relationship is doomed, for more reasons than I care to get into. Just end it already, as you should have done years ago.

DaphneDuBois · 29/04/2021 12:00

I’m angry about this because my dickhead ex did this twice and the second time I slung him out.

‘Curiosity’ is the shittest lie ever for spending so much time and energy on setting up ways to look at and contact escorts without being caught. What exactly is he ‘curious’ about? What they look like? How much they charge? He’s got an awful lot of ‘curiosity’ about it to be doing so many things to facilitate him giving it all a mere passing thought.
Why does he need to set up hidden folders and register accounts to be merely curious about how some men pay money for sex unless he’s one of them?! Absolute lying bollocks from him. Utter bullshit. Would you register with a swingers site and hide it all away but only tell him when he finds it all and then explain it was just curiosity that made you fill in all the forms? Can he not hear himself?

Even if he’s stopped, he clearly has really shit views about objectifying and staring at women and spends half his time disrespecting you by gathering loads of pictures of other woman. Sling him out, the shitbag. He’s done this while in a relationship with you. If he wants to do that he needs to be single. Absolutely disgusting disrespect.

themalamander · 29/04/2021 12:00

You were mad to stay. Look, this is not your long term, love of your life, happily ever after. This is one of those horrible experiences we all look back on and thank our lucky stars we didnt marry the guy.

This isnt the one for you. End it. Move on.

DaphneDuBois · 29/04/2021 12:00

I wish someone had said all that to me the first time I forgave him ^

M0rT · 29/04/2021 12:01

I would have dumped at the secret folder and escort searches to be honest.
What would worry me more now is the disconnect between how he is in your relationship as you describe it vanilla sex not demonstrative and following "sexy girl" accounts on TikTok etc.
Which of these people is he?
Not all men do this by the way, my DH is demonstrative and loves a BJ but his social media is all music and football.
I'm not saying he would close his eyes if Salma Hayek was on the tv in a figure hugging dress but he doesn't seek it out.

zzizzer · 29/04/2021 12:02

Why would you want to live like this?

VladmirsPoutine · 29/04/2021 12:03

I would end it. You are living in hell. This is absolutely no way to live. Another thing once someone transgresses your boundaries they will continue to do so because they know no matter what they do - you won't leave. It's all horrific!

Bluntness100 · 29/04/2021 12:03

I've been very guarded since but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship & he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened, he's a loyal, practical man who never criticises me and allows me to be myself in the relationship, it's a really 'easy relationship for me in comparison to former partners who were either jealous or cheats

I don’t understand this at all. What do you mean he’s don’t nothing to make you feel insecure and threatened. The mans cheating on you and shagging escorts. He’s on multiple sites to hook up and hiding rhe evidence. And he is a partner who cheats, he’s clearly not just looking, he’s actively cheating on you.

End it. It’s not going to get better. He’s over the side, repeatedly.

SunIsComing · 29/04/2021 12:03

Omg. Not acceptable at all. Please end it.

idontlikealdi · 29/04/2021 12:04

If you believe the bull shut he's feeding you crack on. He knows you know and he still doesn't give a shit about you.

Voomster953 · 29/04/2021 12:04

I’m struggling to make sense of a lot of this.

You say:

he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened - presumably apart from the whole reason for your post?? Confused

Also:

he's given me complete access to his bank accounts & I can transfer money whenever I need

Are you financially dependent on him? If so, why?

This relationship sounds fucked, if I’m honest.

AmandaHoldensLips · 29/04/2021 12:04

Ew. Gross.

Orgasmagorical · 29/04/2021 12:04

This is destroying me as a person , I know that now
This is the relevant bit. His 'indiscretions' are who he is. He couldn't be open with you about his wants and desires but he could shift the blame onto you. You have no trust for him, do you want to live the rest of your life feeling like you do now? Flowers

RightlyPointingOut · 29/04/2021 12:06

He isn’t going to stop, just go further underground.
You’re worth more than this.

GroggyLegs · 29/04/2021 12:06

You don't need to apologies for your boundaries, but he's crossed one - it's broken your relationship and now youre trying to control him out of being untrustworthy. It doesn't work.

Honestly, I'm not a LTB type, but in this case you need to cut your losses - this does not sound healthy.

Thisnamewasnttaken123 · 29/04/2021 12:06

Split up.

SquashMinusIsShit · 29/04/2021 12:07

Just end it before you get married, have kids and then find even more evidence he's a cheating scum bag

emilyfrost · 29/04/2021 12:07

YANBU over the escorts etc. That’s inexcusable and unacceptable.

However YABU over TikTok and Instagram. So he likes attractive women, so what? Of course he does, everyone does. Looking at them and liking their pictures isn’t disrespectful to you and it doesn’t men’s he doesn’t find you attractive.

If you seriously think you’d enter a relationship with anyone and they wouldn’t find others then you’re not cut out for one.

You are also massively unreasonable for checking his phone and invading his privacy. He has every right to change his passcode and he should have done it the first time he realised you checked it.

But you shouldn’t be in this relationship because your behaviour is unhealthy and you’re both unhappy.

emilyfrost · 29/04/2021 12:08

*wouldn’t find others attractive

Meruem · 29/04/2021 12:09

End it. I had something happen similar to you. Ex seemed to have a low sex drive, not adventurous in bed etc. I went away for a few days and when I got back saw he’d been messaging a random woman (I don’t know how they got talking) saying things like “I’m in bed naked” etc. The messages ended abruptly so either she stopped replying or they switched to a call. Regardless, what actually hurt me more than the messages themselves was that he would never have sent anything like that to me! He wasn’t really interested when it came to me. It was soul destroying.

I don’t know what made him that way but I do know he didn’t change and all that happened was I got more and more hurt. You can’t “fix” this. For whatever reason, this is who this man is.