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DP indiscretions- acceptable?

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Orangegrovea · 29/04/2021 11:47

Apologies this is a long one...

Two years ago I discovered on my partner's phone the following:
A secure folder set up, containing his Tinder account (still active though not used for a long while)
A search ' how to receive my messages in a Secure folder '
Searches for national and local escorts
Plus I discovered that after we had been together for 6 months he had set up an account on Adultwork, though this had not been used.

Obviously this absolutely devastated me, we argued, cried, fought about it for a long time, many, many times.

He explained countless times that it was curiosity, he would never have approached another woman, he loves me etc.

I've been very guarded since but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship & he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened, he's a loyal, practical man who never criticises me and allows me to be myself in the relationship, it's a really 'easy relationship for me in comparison to former partners who were either jealous or cheats. He hasn't had anywhere near the amount of partners I have had & is quite innocent in some ways.

More recently however I saw his Instagram account which although was historical had hundreds or semi-naked women on - I made him delete the lot. Then a year or so ago he set up a Tiktoc account, again I saw he had hundreds of women on there. I was fuming. Yes I became a proper vigilant control freak & would check his phone, my heart racing.

I simply can't get over what he did though, it tortures me everyday in varying degrees.
What really gets to me is the fact that he's quite shy & not at all adventurous in bed & rarely compliments me or 'enjoys ' my body, we just have very vanilla sex, yet he was looking at all these images of other women in very sexual poses. What a fucking insult to me. I have no doubt that he loves me & he has told me that I'm beautiful (though doesn't shower me with compliments).

So what is he, sexually repressed? Shy? We communicate very openly so he knows I would do anything sexually if he asked. He never goes down on me anymore having done it the first time we slept together & never asks for blow jobs, in fact he almost gets shy when I give him one.

So after 4 years together (living together for 3) I find myself wondering if I'm in love with him anymore. I think I've lost respect for him after the escort searches & other stuff which has killed the love.

Has anyone else been in this situation & made a success of the relationship long-term?

He describes me as very jealous & says its normal for any male to look at images of attractive women, but promises not to do it anymore as he knows it will upset me. But how long can he keep it suppressed if that's in his nature?

I hate him for ruining things, and this often comes out in the form of sadness, moodiness, anger from me. It feels like a sort of grieving for what could have been had this not ever happened. We were so, so in love at the beginning but when I think that he was leaving me after a date to probably go home & look at images of other women it makes me sick, & ruins my memories. He says I overthink, & it's true I was very insecure at the beginning of our relationship, though now I'm very confident.

I'm at a crossroads because I don't want to delude myself or waste my life with a man who has this 'need' , not to be unfaithful but to what I call 'perve' at other women.

When I want to discuss or ask about it he just gets angry and says he thought we were past all this? But then why recently add all the women on Tiktoc, knowing that I would hate it? He thinks it's harmless but I think it's a fucking stupid thing to do plus it disrespectful to me. I feel like a fool.

What is the matter with him? I know I'm an attractive woman & people have commented on the fact that I could do better but I loved (or loved) him for his sweetness, kindness & intelligence plus we share the same sense of humour & laugh a lot together. He's very transparent in many ways, he's given me complete access to his bank accounts & I can transfer money whenever I need it.

I'm struggling to reconcile the man I know with the behaviour he has shown in secret which I think is seedy.

This is destroying me as a person , I know that now, but is it worth giving it all up for his past misdemeanours which don't actually involve any cheating?

I used to be able to access his phone for the past couple of years & he was fine with this, but because I would interrogate him after finding the slightest thing he changed the passcode, which in a bizarre way was almost a relief for me because I didn't feel like a shit person for looking through his phone & didn't live with the fear of finding something that would upset me. He would go to counselling if I pushed it but I would be too embarrassed in case the counsellor thought I was a complete idiot as what he's done is glaringly obviously not what a decent guy in a loving relationship who do.
What would you do?

AiBU towards him?

OP posts:
ForThePurposeOfTheTape · 29/04/2021 12:41

You should end it because he's turning you into someone who you're not. It's going to be very liberating and great for you when you don't have to do it anymore as he won't be your problem.

Run and leave him to wank over these images. You deserve better and there are better men out there. Thanks

YoniAndGuy · 29/04/2021 12:42

Please end it.

You said it yourself - 'I hate him because he ruined things'

That sums it up. He's a twat. He's ruined it by being a lechy dodgy shit.

You don't know that he wouldn't cheat. In fact, he's shown you plain as plain as day that he is exactly the kind of man who probably would cheat given half the chance, and if not, at the very least he's a dodgy shit.

Do you want a happy loving relationship where you feel valued and secure? Do you want to have your children with a man you respect and trust and know will set a fantastic example?

Then end it!!!!

You are wasting precious time.

ForThePurposeOfTheTape · 29/04/2021 12:45

I've been very guarded since but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship & he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened
Contradicts
Yes I became a proper vigilant control freak & would check his phone, my heart racing.

He is massively dishonest. Whether he's knowingly lying to you or secretly repressed is irrelevant. This isn't behaviour of someone in a relationship

ForThePurposeOfTheTape · 29/04/2021 12:46

If you really believe that he's done nothing wrong is this because he's brainwashed you that way? If you had more self-esteem he'd be long gone because he's very devious.

Embracingthechaos · 29/04/2021 12:51

He describes me as very jealous & says its normal for any male to look at images of attractive women

He's blaming you for his bad behaviour. Plus, if he thinks what he was doing is so normal and fine then why go to such great lengths to hide it from you? A secret folder is pretty up there.

but promises not to do it anymore as he knows it will upset me

His promises mean nothing because he has already lied to you and hidden things from you. So you know he could lie again. For all you know he may have actually gone through with meeting an escort.

This is why you can't move on from it. You will never fully trust this man.

Is that the relationship you want to spend the rest of your life in?

Doghead · 29/04/2021 12:54

You deserve better. He's taking the piss out of you and deep down you know it. He'll never change. My ex talked me round after each of his 'minor discretions'. Made out everyone else was lying and he'd done nothing wrong. Found out after I'd had the courage to end it that he'd been cheating on me from the beginning with practically anything that moved.

You can convince yourself as much as you want that he's a good guy and that he loves you. The truth is he isn't and he doesn't.

There are decent men out there who will love and respect you the way your deserve.

Regularsizedrudy · 29/04/2021 12:55

Your partner uses prostitutes. He does not love you. I’m sorry but you need to end this. This is not a loving or supportive relationship.. it’s actually really fucked up.

PlanDeRaccordement · 29/04/2021 12:58

This situation sounds very toxic.

You don’t mention how “historical” the tinder account, searches and never used adultwork account were. You discovered them two years ago, or after one year of living together. But when do they actually date from? If they pre-date the relationship going exclusive, then it’s a so what unless you have a rule not to date men that google escorts but never use any accounts. I mean I had to do a google search on adultwork to find out its a web-girl site where the women are also escorts. So would my partner now be right to dump me? That seems a bit extreme. But if they date from while you were living together...well then should have left then and there.

The historic Instagram of bikini and lingerie clad women you say is historical...I take that to me before you were in a relationship. That’s a so what to me.

The current TikTok. Well my partner looking at pictures of attractive women in bikinis/lingerie or even artistic nudes doesn’t bother me. If it bothers you, that’s fine but it just means you’re incompatible. I don’t think he’s a “perve” because many people in committed, loving relationships enjoy sexy pictures of partially clad men and women and they’re not disrespecting their partners or about to cheat.

You shouldn’t be invading his privacy and checking his phone and accounts. You say you are confident and secure, but your actions are those of a very insecure and unconfident person.

There is no trust and I don’t think you will ever trust him and for that reason, whether he’s cheated or not, I think you should not be in this relationship.

sadie9 · 29/04/2021 13:03

He's not capable of actually relating to you or your body.
He sees women as objects that he needs to keep an arms length from.
You probably provide easy companionship and that suits him.
Do you mother him and treat him more like a son?
Do you arrange all the dates, make most of the suggestion while he appears happy to let you make the decisions?
Like an immature teenage boy, he likes his Mummy around to make him feel safe and give him the female attention he craves, but looks at dirty pictures when alone in his room.
He's not relating to you as an equal.

ScrambledSmegs · 29/04/2021 13:10

This is destroying me as a person

Stop doing this to yourself. Just end this toxic excuse for a relationship. He's not a lovely man if he's hurting you this badly.

bubblebath62636 · 29/04/2021 13:11

He's a loser.

What grown man even has tik tok?!

PembrokeshireDreaming · 29/04/2021 13:14

No point in flogging a dead horse.............your relationship sounds well past the point of repair. You don't trust him and don't respect him........end it now before you waste any more time!

TableFlowerss · 29/04/2021 13:15

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Voomster953 · 29/04/2021 13:23

@Orangegrovea

Voomster

Good point i can see what I've done here...

No, not financially dependent on him, we earn the same.

Why is he giving you access to his money? To placate you? To buy your cooperation?

This relationship sounds really toxic. Move on, is my advice.

Nonmaquillee · 29/04/2021 13:24

"This is destroying me as a person , I know that now, but is it worth giving it all up for his past misdemeanours which don't actually involve any cheating?"

I only skim read your thread..but this is what stands out - yes, of course he's cheating.

Please end this "relationship" asap if you don't want to end up a shell of yourself.

IsThePopeCatholic · 29/04/2021 13:26

He’s a creep. Get rid.

Dipi79 · 29/04/2021 13:30

Well, that was a long and torturous essay; a bit like your relationship, methinks.
Both of you appear to be demonstrating unhealthy behaviours and it sounds as though neither of you is particularly happy with intimate relations with the other. Please split up.

Totalbeach · 29/04/2021 13:33

I would very strongly suggest that you don't know the full story about the escort thing. Very strongly.

And I'm sad to say that as I know you'll now make yourself ill with wondering about it. But you don't have to - you could just leave. People have said you can do better and they're right. Even on your own is better.

Collywolly · 29/04/2021 13:38

How do you think he would react if you reversed things and you started replicating his behaviour, would he find that acceptable.

Wondergirl100 · 29/04/2021 13:38

Op - this is the thing - people have different standards of what is acceptable - stop wondering if 'he' is right that it's normal - and focus on what is acceptable to you.

It would be (and is) totally unacceptable to me for a partner to do anything you are describing. It's not 'normal' - it might be common among many men but my husband does not do this and has never done - I promise you, you can find a man who doesn't do this.

What I wonder is why you are staying and torturing him and yourself - have you had counselling?

queenMab99 · 29/04/2021 13:41

the thing that stands out for me, is that you say 'this is destroying me as a person.' I understand this, as it was when I realised that I was becoming a suspicious, jealous woman, and I didn't want to be that person, that I divorced my husband of 22 years because of his affair.
It doesn't matter what the behaviour is, if it is making you uncomfortable and suspicious, to that degree, then you need to LTB

SunshineCocktails · 29/04/2021 13:42

He is not the man for you. You are not happy, so please find your self respect and end this. You will thank yourself in years to come. Trust me.

Pebbledashery · 29/04/2021 13:44

His behaviour is unacceptable.
But so is yours as a result of his.
You're both destined for a life of misery if you stay together.

HollowTalk · 29/04/2021 13:49

You are seeing him for who he truly is.

You will never be the woman you could be while you're with him. You are forced into becoming paranoid, suspicious and worrying about your self worth.

You are worth plenty. He isn't.

Sittingonabench · 29/04/2021 13:51

Sorry you’re in this place OP. Cheating is a boundary for most people but what usually gets overlooked as a boundary (which baffles me) is if they don’t make you a better person (I.e give you reasons to be jealous, anxious, feel unsatisfactory in some way) then that should also be an indication it’s not a good relationship. If you don’t like the person you have become with him then it’s time to reset even if you can’t pin it down to cheating