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DP indiscretions- acceptable?

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Orangegrovea · 29/04/2021 11:47

Apologies this is a long one...

Two years ago I discovered on my partner's phone the following:
A secure folder set up, containing his Tinder account (still active though not used for a long while)
A search ' how to receive my messages in a Secure folder '
Searches for national and local escorts
Plus I discovered that after we had been together for 6 months he had set up an account on Adultwork, though this had not been used.

Obviously this absolutely devastated me, we argued, cried, fought about it for a long time, many, many times.

He explained countless times that it was curiosity, he would never have approached another woman, he loves me etc.

I've been very guarded since but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship & he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened, he's a loyal, practical man who never criticises me and allows me to be myself in the relationship, it's a really 'easy relationship for me in comparison to former partners who were either jealous or cheats. He hasn't had anywhere near the amount of partners I have had & is quite innocent in some ways.

More recently however I saw his Instagram account which although was historical had hundreds or semi-naked women on - I made him delete the lot. Then a year or so ago he set up a Tiktoc account, again I saw he had hundreds of women on there. I was fuming. Yes I became a proper vigilant control freak & would check his phone, my heart racing.

I simply can't get over what he did though, it tortures me everyday in varying degrees.
What really gets to me is the fact that he's quite shy & not at all adventurous in bed & rarely compliments me or 'enjoys ' my body, we just have very vanilla sex, yet he was looking at all these images of other women in very sexual poses. What a fucking insult to me. I have no doubt that he loves me & he has told me that I'm beautiful (though doesn't shower me with compliments).

So what is he, sexually repressed? Shy? We communicate very openly so he knows I would do anything sexually if he asked. He never goes down on me anymore having done it the first time we slept together & never asks for blow jobs, in fact he almost gets shy when I give him one.

So after 4 years together (living together for 3) I find myself wondering if I'm in love with him anymore. I think I've lost respect for him after the escort searches & other stuff which has killed the love.

Has anyone else been in this situation & made a success of the relationship long-term?

He describes me as very jealous & says its normal for any male to look at images of attractive women, but promises not to do it anymore as he knows it will upset me. But how long can he keep it suppressed if that's in his nature?

I hate him for ruining things, and this often comes out in the form of sadness, moodiness, anger from me. It feels like a sort of grieving for what could have been had this not ever happened. We were so, so in love at the beginning but when I think that he was leaving me after a date to probably go home & look at images of other women it makes me sick, & ruins my memories. He says I overthink, & it's true I was very insecure at the beginning of our relationship, though now I'm very confident.

I'm at a crossroads because I don't want to delude myself or waste my life with a man who has this 'need' , not to be unfaithful but to what I call 'perve' at other women.

When I want to discuss or ask about it he just gets angry and says he thought we were past all this? But then why recently add all the women on Tiktoc, knowing that I would hate it? He thinks it's harmless but I think it's a fucking stupid thing to do plus it disrespectful to me. I feel like a fool.

What is the matter with him? I know I'm an attractive woman & people have commented on the fact that I could do better but I loved (or loved) him for his sweetness, kindness & intelligence plus we share the same sense of humour & laugh a lot together. He's very transparent in many ways, he's given me complete access to his bank accounts & I can transfer money whenever I need it.

I'm struggling to reconcile the man I know with the behaviour he has shown in secret which I think is seedy.

This is destroying me as a person , I know that now, but is it worth giving it all up for his past misdemeanours which don't actually involve any cheating?

I used to be able to access his phone for the past couple of years & he was fine with this, but because I would interrogate him after finding the slightest thing he changed the passcode, which in a bizarre way was almost a relief for me because I didn't feel like a shit person for looking through his phone & didn't live with the fear of finding something that would upset me. He would go to counselling if I pushed it but I would be too embarrassed in case the counsellor thought I was a complete idiot as what he's done is glaringly obviously not what a decent guy in a loving relationship who do.
What would you do?

AiBU towards him?

OP posts:
arcof · 29/04/2021 13:52

A. It's not acceptable, any of it and B. Even if 99 out of 100 women said it was (which they won't), it's unacceptable TO YOU, thus it's time to get out. This is not what happiness looks like. Doesn't matter how much time and energy you've put into this, it's time to start again. You'll be amazed how much better you will feel once you break free.

CatrinVennastin · 29/04/2021 14:02

Life is way too short to put up with boring sex with a bloke who gets his rocks off looking at images on tiktok.

Bluedeblue · 29/04/2021 14:13

You said :

he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened

However :

He has an account on Tinder

He searches for national and local escorts

He set up an account on Adultwork (this is a hooker site)

His Insta and Tiktoc accounts are full of semi naked women

You are now denied access to his phone

To me, he has done numerous things to make you insecure and threatened. None of these things are acceptable. None
Do you do any of this shit?

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 29/04/2021 14:14

You've told him you dont like this behaviour. But he continues to do it. He knew you wouldnt like him following those accounts on tiktok but he did it anyway, because he thinks it's acceptable. I don't see how you can reconcile these two viewpoints. Lots of people do think its acceptable and it wouldn't bother them (it would bother me) and accounts like these have lots of followers which will all be normalising it. I think people should act online like they do in real life but others think online things don't 'count'. You fundamentally disagree on this and it doesn't sound like it's going to change because he doesn't see why he should. He will just find ways to hide things or move to a different platform. I'm sorry OP but I don't see this getting any better for you so I would think about ending it

Landofthefree · 29/04/2021 14:17

@Orangegrovea He’s a liar, a cheat and disrespectful towards you. This is who he is and he isn’t going to change. It’s actions not words that count and his actions show that he doesn’t care about you.

You deserve so much better than this wriggly, slimy maggot of a partner. I’m assuming you are young and there’s no children involved, so leaving the relationship won’t be too complicated. Good luck!

wdmtthgcock · 29/04/2021 14:26

I’m sorry, but a man who searches prostitutes and joins hook up sites and has his emails sent to a secure folder, is only doing so for one reason. He’s looking for and having sex with others. It’s incredibly naive to believe the whole “I was only looking thing”. He wasn’t. I’m sorry but he’s cheating and repeatedly so

Well said Bluntness.

My ex cheated on me with prostitutes and his excuse was "I was really drunk". They always have an excuse.

I'm sorry but your relationship is over. The trust is gone. He's been looking for sex with escorts - even if he hasn't done the deed that is a step too far.
Your sexual relationship with him sounds off anyway and not fulfilling.
Don't be fooled by the "shy" thing. Most men who are supposedly "shy" aren't - it's a persona covering something up.
It could be that he has some sexual kinks which he enjoys which he does not want to do with you or does not feel he can share and so he turns to prostitutes for this (or plans to).

Please get rid OP. I forgave my ex 3 times for going to the brothel. I have no idea why. Think I wasn't in a good place mentally at the time.
They never change.
You deserve way better than this horrible specimen.

Trixie78 · 29/04/2021 14:30

He isn't going to change hon, whether you like it or not, this is who he is. I don't think this one sounds saveable, and why would you want to. This is no way to live, honestly in a good relationship you never feel like this. For your own sake I think you need to leave x

Confusedandshaken · 29/04/2021 14:36

My husband is absolutely rubbish at anything tech-y, partly lack of aptitude, part laziness as he isn't interested. Me or our DDs have to do anything more complex than send an email or text so we are on and off his laptop/pc/phone all the time. I have never seen any hint or suggestion that he has been looking at porn or talking secretly to other women. Your DP is gaslighting you when he says his behaviour is normal. To misquote Rachel from Friends 'its not that common, doesn't happen to all men and is a big deal'.

Even if it was normal he knows it upsets you and makes you unhappy and is doing it anyway. I would not want to be with anyone who treated me that way.

DaphneDuBois · 29/04/2021 15:42

You aren’t jealous. You don’t trust him simply because he’s proven himself - numerous times and in numerous ways and over a period of time - to be incapable of being trusted. HUGE difference.

He’s acting like you’re the one with the problem and he’s doing you a favour out of respect for your feelings. ‘I won’t look at escorts any more babe as I know you’re jealous and had a problem with my membership of adult work which I set up behind your back while I was seeing you.’ Fuck off matey. He deserves to be single.

‘He promises not to do it anymore as he knows it will upset me’ is a big red flashing neon flag. It couldn’t flash red any more brightly. He should not be doing it anymore because he’s in a monogamous relationship where you haven’t agreed he can bookmark escorts and stockpile underwear pictures of other women! He’s clearly a complete waste of your time.

Orangegrovea · 01/05/2021 06:36

JobHunting10

Thank you for your response...do you really think shock can last that long? because when I read that it really resonated with me because that's what it feels like :(

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belle40 · 01/05/2021 06:44

Oh OP. I'm really sorry to read this but as someone who has been badly deceived by a partner (and very stupidly gave them a second chance, they went on to do something far worse), for your own sanity please leave him. I mean this with kindness. A man who loves you doesn't date other women behind your back, doesn't look at escorts, doesn't have any pictures of naked women on his phone. I remember the feeling in my stomach, the hypervigilance, the trying to pretend it was okay. It wasn't. You cannot change him. He is a duplicitous adulterer. He cheats because he feels it is his right. He enjoys it. Please start a new life without him. You can meet someone who really wants you and just you. Good luck.

BestUseADifferentName · 01/05/2021 06:48

When I found my ex had contacted a sex worker he claimed something similar and that he wouldn't have actually gone through with it. It turned out he had been going through with it for three years.

mamamalt · 01/05/2021 07:34

He's not the person you thought he was. Life is too short to be in a shitty relationship.

KarmaStar · 01/05/2021 07:59

Yanbu.
I don't buy the shy act either.
Ditch him you're much better than this. Flowers

justsaymaybe · 01/05/2021 14:48

As someone that has been through something very similar many years ago, I would advise you to leave now.
I didn't leave and he did change (believe it or not) but I still feel rubbish over it and it still affects me now. There is always doubt in the background. I still have a panic and check his phone now and then (which he knows about).
Once the trust is broken I don't believe that you can ever get it back 100%.

Deadringer · 01/05/2021 15:21

He perves on other women and it sounds like he is crap in bed. That would be more than enough for me to end it.

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