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DP indiscretions- acceptable?

91 replies

Orangegrovea · 29/04/2021 11:47

Apologies this is a long one...

Two years ago I discovered on my partner's phone the following:
A secure folder set up, containing his Tinder account (still active though not used for a long while)
A search ' how to receive my messages in a Secure folder '
Searches for national and local escorts
Plus I discovered that after we had been together for 6 months he had set up an account on Adultwork, though this had not been used.

Obviously this absolutely devastated me, we argued, cried, fought about it for a long time, many, many times.

He explained countless times that it was curiosity, he would never have approached another woman, he loves me etc.

I've been very guarded since but we do have a loving, mutually supportive relationship & he's done nothing to make me feel insecure or threatened, he's a loyal, practical man who never criticises me and allows me to be myself in the relationship, it's a really 'easy relationship for me in comparison to former partners who were either jealous or cheats. He hasn't had anywhere near the amount of partners I have had & is quite innocent in some ways.

More recently however I saw his Instagram account which although was historical had hundreds or semi-naked women on - I made him delete the lot. Then a year or so ago he set up a Tiktoc account, again I saw he had hundreds of women on there. I was fuming. Yes I became a proper vigilant control freak & would check his phone, my heart racing.

I simply can't get over what he did though, it tortures me everyday in varying degrees.
What really gets to me is the fact that he's quite shy & not at all adventurous in bed & rarely compliments me or 'enjoys ' my body, we just have very vanilla sex, yet he was looking at all these images of other women in very sexual poses. What a fucking insult to me. I have no doubt that he loves me & he has told me that I'm beautiful (though doesn't shower me with compliments).

So what is he, sexually repressed? Shy? We communicate very openly so he knows I would do anything sexually if he asked. He never goes down on me anymore having done it the first time we slept together & never asks for blow jobs, in fact he almost gets shy when I give him one.

So after 4 years together (living together for 3) I find myself wondering if I'm in love with him anymore. I think I've lost respect for him after the escort searches & other stuff which has killed the love.

Has anyone else been in this situation & made a success of the relationship long-term?

He describes me as very jealous & says its normal for any male to look at images of attractive women, but promises not to do it anymore as he knows it will upset me. But how long can he keep it suppressed if that's in his nature?

I hate him for ruining things, and this often comes out in the form of sadness, moodiness, anger from me. It feels like a sort of grieving for what could have been had this not ever happened. We were so, so in love at the beginning but when I think that he was leaving me after a date to probably go home & look at images of other women it makes me sick, & ruins my memories. He says I overthink, & it's true I was very insecure at the beginning of our relationship, though now I'm very confident.

I'm at a crossroads because I don't want to delude myself or waste my life with a man who has this 'need' , not to be unfaithful but to what I call 'perve' at other women.

When I want to discuss or ask about it he just gets angry and says he thought we were past all this? But then why recently add all the women on Tiktoc, knowing that I would hate it? He thinks it's harmless but I think it's a fucking stupid thing to do plus it disrespectful to me. I feel like a fool.

What is the matter with him? I know I'm an attractive woman & people have commented on the fact that I could do better but I loved (or loved) him for his sweetness, kindness & intelligence plus we share the same sense of humour & laugh a lot together. He's very transparent in many ways, he's given me complete access to his bank accounts & I can transfer money whenever I need it.

I'm struggling to reconcile the man I know with the behaviour he has shown in secret which I think is seedy.

This is destroying me as a person , I know that now, but is it worth giving it all up for his past misdemeanours which don't actually involve any cheating?

I used to be able to access his phone for the past couple of years & he was fine with this, but because I would interrogate him after finding the slightest thing he changed the passcode, which in a bizarre way was almost a relief for me because I didn't feel like a shit person for looking through his phone & didn't live with the fear of finding something that would upset me. He would go to counselling if I pushed it but I would be too embarrassed in case the counsellor thought I was a complete idiot as what he's done is glaringly obviously not what a decent guy in a loving relationship who do.
What would you do?

AiBU towards him?

OP posts:
Horehound · 29/04/2021 12:09

Come on. End it!!

ThetaSigma · 29/04/2021 12:09

L to the T to the B.

Swordfish1 · 29/04/2021 12:10

Curiousity? Yeah OK.
Normal for men to do this. Yeah ok again.

Nope, he would be out the door pretty damn sharpish if he were mine. He is a liar and a cheat.
The good stuff he does or the sweet things he does, does not make up for any of this one tiny little bit.

For the sake of you self esteem and mental health. Get rid.

Shoxfordian · 29/04/2021 12:10

He’s not loyal
Dump him

PeraltasWife · 29/04/2021 12:12

You need to end it. The trust is gone and if you don't already have kids then it's easier to walk away. Don't put yourself through a lifetime of wondering what he's getting up to. You deserve better

Trolleywool · 29/04/2021 12:14

You evidently haven't ever trusted him if you feel the need to go through his phone, that's no way to live for either of you. I don't see how it can continue.

WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 29/04/2021 12:14

You dont know this man, he is keeping a big part of himself hidden from you. And I don't agree storing pages of naked women on insta is normal or healthy. Its creepy and pathetic. Dump and find someone who isn't a childish creepy weirdo.

NataSmith · 29/04/2021 12:16

I sympathise, because not only was there that first issue and incident, but now a load more. My husband doesn’t have that stuff as normal and I don’t think every guy is doing that tbh.

You have basically laid it all out above and no wonder you would be losing love for him. I don’t think it matters what is really wrong with him underneath, there’s plenty there to just leave. Cut your losses; it is very very clear it won’t be the last time and so you can’t be surprised next time this sort of thing happens or you discover it.

Also, many would check phones and get jealous in this situation, but the question is do you want that to be how you live your life?

I had something much shorter-lived once with a bf I was with for a total of 1 year. After checking his phone a few times (something I had never done before to anyone), I realised ok something is seriously wrong here, I feel like doing it because I know I am not getting the truth. I will not do that anymore because it’s a real rubbish way to live and so I ended it. It’s not healthy for you, don’t let him bring that out in you.

ForTheLoveOfWine · 29/04/2021 12:18

What a waste of 4 years don’t waste any more time with him

Orangegrovea · 29/04/2021 12:18

Voomster

Good point i can see what I've done here...

No, not financially dependent on him, we earn the same.

OP posts:
RightOnTheEdge · 29/04/2021 12:21

Read back the things you have written OP

"this absolutely devastated me,"
"I've been very guarded since"
"I simply can't get over what he did"
"This is destroying me as a person"
"it tortures me everyday in varying degrees."
"I hate him for ruining things, and this often comes out in the form of sadness, moodiness, anger from me."

This is no way to live. Don't waste anymore of you life on it. You deserve so much better.

LadyJaye · 29/04/2021 12:21

Here's the great thing about being an adult woman living in a country in which most sex-based freedoms are enshrined in law: you don't need anybody's permission to leave a situation which is making you unhappy.

Is my OH perfect? Absolutely not. Am I? Not even slightly. Do we like and respect each other? 100%.

Clearly, this is not the case for you. Open-and-shut case of 'thank you, and good night'.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/04/2021 12:22

You really need therapy to unpick why your standards are so low and why you don't have the personal insight to know when a relationship is totally wrong for you.

SleepingStandingUp · 29/04/2021 12:24

He sounds like a shy cheat. Like he wants to do it, look at all these women and hire a prostitute and cheat etc but hasn't got the guts. It would worry me that he's willing to give it headspace and that he may finally pluck up the courage to do so

Dump him, move on and find someone better.

You are enough and if you're not, they're not good enough

JensonsAcolyte · 29/04/2021 12:25

He has a Madonna/whore complex going on, hence the boring sex with you.

Chuck him back in the sea and give yourself a chance to me someone who sees you as a sexual being, not a domestic appliance.

SylvanianFrenemies · 29/04/2021 12:29

I think your focus on trying to make a relationship which isn't fulfilling for you is an error. These things aren't all or nothing. Like everyone, he's neither saint nor devil. But that doesn't matter. Fundamental aspects of him and his behaviour make you stressed and anxious.

SabrinaTheMiddleAgedBitch · 29/04/2021 12:30

Whether or not hes cheating doesnt matter. Theres a big difference between someone not cheating because they wouldn’t and someone where the opportunity just hasnt presented itself yet. Its pretty easy to see which one he is.

NotTerfNorCis · 29/04/2021 12:30

This is grim. Personally I wouldn't dream of searching through my OH's phone, and I'd go ballistic if he did the same to me. But I'd also not be happy if he was openly looking at other women, and it would be the beginning of the end for our relationship.

JobHunting10 · 29/04/2021 12:32

*Today 12:22 Aquamarine1029

You really need therapy to unpick why your standards are so low and why you don't have the personal insight to know when a relationship is totally wrong for you.*

I think this is harsh. Obv OP knows it’s not right. Just needs help and support in deattaching and ending it. Ever heard of trauma bonding?

Rainbowsandstorms · 29/04/2021 12:33

None of this sounds like a happy base for a lasting relationship. So much of this happened early on in your relationship that it doesn’t sound like you have a great deal to save or much solid ground to fall back on. It sounds like you need to move on to be happy and to feel loved and respected. If there’s no trust it’s very hard to move forward.

LalalalalalaLand123 · 29/04/2021 12:34

None of this is anything that you should have to put up with. No, not all men need to ogle semi-naked women who are not their partners. I feel like you almost need permission to leave him - this thread is your permission. You deserve someone who makes you feel great about yourself, this is no way to live.

TwinkleToeMatilda · 29/04/2021 12:35

Relationships should not be this much hard work.

JobHunting10 · 29/04/2021 12:36

OP, you know this isn’t normal. Maybe you’re still in shock. He’s not the guy you fell in love with. Take some time out and create some distance. Think about what you want from a partner and relationship. You’ll realise it’s not this. Can you get support from your family or friends? A counsellor or therapist? He doesn’t need to be involved. I think talking these things through in real life with someone will help you to see this isn’t healthy or good and it’s up to him to fix, not you Flowers

Bluntness100 · 29/04/2021 12:36

I’m sorry, but a man who searches prostitutes and joins hook up sites and has his emails sent to a secure folder, is only doing so for one reason. He’s looking for and having sex with others. It’s incredibly naive to believe the whole “I was only looking thing”. He wasn’t. I’m sorry but he’s cheating and repeatedly so.

Lockheart · 29/04/2021 12:37

Neither of your behaviours sound healthy. This relationship is incredibly toxic from the sounds of it.

If you want to stay together you'd both need to commit to some serious couples therapy, but honestly I'd probably just knock it on the head.

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