What would you think of a father in this situation? Is it the system or does it reflect more on the man?

[moralduty]

Man pays over £1000 per month for the lease hire of a luxury brand new car and pays a quarter of this for his two children with his ex. This is calculated by the CMS. He doesn't pay towards school uniform or any extras, just the calculated amount. How does this system work? Do they really think that teenagers cost less than £10 a day? Is it fair that a father can spend four times as much a month on his car than his children? I know that some don't give anything at all and that's worse but the system stinks.

[Loveacoseynightin]

@DumplingsAndStew what a load of tosh. The system is broken for all. The RP has the power and they use it to their advantage. If it wasn't about money most RPs would allow 50/50 but dress it up as "not in the child's interest".

I think people who don't provide for children should be called out for it but it is not black and white and nobody can answer what should a NRP pay for each child

[DumplingsAndStew]

Broken for all... except your partner's ex, who is "raking it in" 🙄

[BlackeyedSusan]

Things we have had to buy for our children: (ex is not a twat with money)
Beds
Mattresses
Wardrobe
Chest of drawers
Book case
Desk
Chairs
Computer monitor, mouse, keyboard, (printer, printer cartridges)
Pillows
Pillow cases
Duvet
Duvet covers
Sheets
Laundry liquid
Running the washing machine extra times
Extra washing up liquid and hot water
Extra cutlery and crockery
Food
Drinks
Soap
Shampoo
Conditioner
Hot water for shower
Combs
Hairbrush
Deodorant
Phones
Phone case
Screen protectors
Chargers
Charger cables
Headphones
Electricity to charge phones
School cost £400worth of equipment (cheapest) per child
Replacement pens,pencils,glue sticks,notebooks, ear buds, crayons, ruler, set squares calculators
Books
Replacement school shoes
Replacement trainers
Paper for homework
Extra electricity for lighting their rooms
Lamp
Bath mat as they are not as good at keeping water in the bath
Towels
Cost of extra rooms
Extra hoovering
Loo roll
Cleaning products to clean loo more often
Pocket money
Larger car to fit them in
Extra car tax
Petrol to transport them to school
Extra car insurance
More wear and tear and depreciation on the car
More wear and tear on fixtures and fittings in the house
Replacing white goods and appliances more often as they are used more often
Larger pans to cook bigger meals
Got an extra key cut
Extra heating ( I can manage without, kids can't)
Larger fridge/ freezer
Shopping more often: petrol or delivery charge
Hospital parking charges
Kids medicines
Clothing and shoes (even charity shop or supermarket can build up in cost)
Toys
School lunches or packed lunch items and lunch boxes
Food tech ingredients
Toothpaste and toothbrush
Vitamin d supplement

These are just the basic extras that children require.

Interestingly it costs more than a £1 a day on school costs without having to replace anything.

[angieloumc]

Pure greed on £400 a month? Hardly.
In a ideal world maybe 50/50 would be the way to go, however logistically speaking it's often impossible.
My DD's father travels for work, often overseas. She's 16 now but at the age of say 10 she could hardly be going if to the States with him in terms time just so he could have his 50/50.
Loveacosynightin you seem very bitter towards RP's, that's a shame as most RP's are doing the very best they can.

[Waxonwaxoff0]

[quote Loveacoseynightin]@DumplingsAndStew what a load of tosh. The system is broken for all. The RP has the power and they use it to their advantage. If it wasn't about money most RPs would allow 50/50 but dress it up as "not in the child's interest".

I think people who don't provide for children should be called out for it but it is not black and white and nobody can answer what should a NRP pay for each child[/quote]
How many dads actually want 50/50? My ex certainly doesn't. He says he can't with his work.

And 50/50 actually is not always in the best interests of the child, especially younger children.

[Waxonwaxoff0]

@DumplingsAndStew

I see from *@Loveacoseynightin* posting history that s/he has a real issue with NRPs contributing towards the financial upkeep of their children, with such gems as thinking RPs are "raking it in", NRPs shouldn't have to pay maintenance if the RP is receiving benefits as he is already paying tax, he shouldn't have to do both, and of course the good old line that RPs keep all the money for themselves and nothing is spent on the child.

I stopped reading after two threads, as the excuses for a man to reproduce then fuck off their financial responsibility sickens me.

Funny that because I looked at her posting history and on one thread she says she herself is receiving £400pm maintenance from her ex! The hypocrite.

[Jux]

Men need to shun men who behave like this. I have heard far too many men down the pub showing off how little they've got away with "paying the ex" while spending freely on themselves, and seen far too many other men laughing with them, as if it were a good thing.

MEN need to treat selfish bastards like pariahs.