To not be able to believe what I'm reading

[Butwasitherdriveway]

Had a leaflet through my door......

I'm lost for words.

There are people who think this way, luckily we have a democracy so we don’t have to put up with them.

They will lose their deposit by a very large margin!

@DiddlyWiddly

I am against abortion except for when the pregnancy would be life threatening for the mum.

Falling pregnant as a result of my rape wasn't life threatening.

Do you genuinely think I was morally wrong and shouldn't have been allowed by law to have the termination I did?

@KFleming

I don’t think my 8 year old needs to know about sexual intercourse right now but he is going to be taught it next week in school.

I really am curious as to why not? Is it the particular content you’re aware he’ll be taught, would there be a level of knowledge you would be ok with? Or is it more an issue of feeling like it’s not something to be taught at school, but at home?

Because I feel he is not mature enough. Y6 yes. Year 3 or 4 not yet. Body parts fine sexual intercourse no. I am aware though that I live in a privileged area / situation though where kids arnt having sex at primary school and other parts of the country are not in the same position. However, I don’t really get the choice, as I said, pulling him out of the lessons would just embarrass him and he would only hear it second hand straight after at lunch anyway.l from the others who have been in the lesson. I feel there is plenty of time to learn about this and it’s taking kids innocence away before it’s needed. Also my son isn’t mature enough not to crudely make remarks about what he has learned to younger siblings or cousins or even shout or joke about it in a play park. By the end of year 6 I feel it’s a bit of a turning point for many kids

Ooh hang on.
I have missed a bit there.
I meant to say:

Because your views are appalling
In your opinion they are yes.
I find your view that deciding to end the life of another because it isn’t the right time, or because it was unplanned, or it might be disabled etc etc is right and acceptable absolutely appalling too.

It’s all difference of opinion which we should be allowed to express freely.

I got this yesterday. Disgusting.

Have you seen their Facebook page?

@Standrewsschool
Utah because the leaflet statements pretty much summons up how acquaintances of mine experienced moving to Utah.

Not necessarily religious or hard of thinking though. I disagree with abortion, I think it’s wrong-but that is me. I think it’s wrong. For myself.
If anything happened to me or I faced bad news I would not terminate under any circumstances. I’m neither religious or hard of thinking. It’s just my personal view and one that extends only to myself.

I have daughters. They know my stance, they know why. They are fully informed (well the 2 who are old enough) of the law and also the process.
They know though that despite my personal views that they of ever they chose to have an abortion would have my full and unwavering support because my beliefs are mine alone.
I think being ‘anti abortion’ personally and ‘anti abortion’ in general are very different things of that makes sense

Ugh. Reading that leaflet is like flipping over a rock and finding a colony of woodlice underneath. I agree with pp that it absolutely reeks of religious lunacy.

I grudgingly agree that even fucknuts should have the right to campaign, though. I doubt they'll get much traction in Scotland.

Seriously, it's not like bonkers far right groups are new FFS.

@DiddlyWiddly

Do you see how spiteful it is to use the 🤷‍♀️ and ☕️ emojis in response to people saying they find your views on rape victims having abortions upsetting?

I think it would be pretty decent to apologise for claiming to feel it's a serious moral issue then using flippant, almost jokey, emojis when writing about such a thing.

If you sympathise with victims of rape as well as children conceived by it, it's a nasty way to conduct yourself.

I don’t agree with the majority of that leaflet but I do appreciate how lucky we are in the U.K. that we are a democracy that allows different views. If a group of people want to get together and try to win votes good luck to them. That is what is their right. Your right is not to vote for them.

[quote youvegottenminuteslynn]@DiddlyWiddly

Do you see how spiteful it is to use the 🤷‍♀️ and ☕️ emojis in response to people saying they find your views on rape victims having abortions upsetting?

I think it would be pretty decent to apologise for claiming to feel it's a serious moral issue then using flippant, almost jokey, emojis when writing about such a thing.

If you sympathise with victims of rape as well as children conceived by it, it's a nasty way to conduct yourself. [/quote]
Diddly doesn't care about that.

She only cares about her views on what she has decided women should do.

There but for the grace of god.

While I've got you @youvegottenminuteslynn , don't know If you saw it but I did apologise on the other thread for losing the plot. It seems to be a very sensitive topic for me. You have always been very good to me on these threads so I'm sorry 💖

@seepingweeping

I got this yesterday. Disgusting.

Have you seen their Facebook page?

I did have a nosey.

@OnTheBrink1

But you speak as a good parent who educates your child.

As always, people need to think of others.

[quote youvegottenminuteslynn]@DiddlyWiddly

I am against abortion except for when the pregnancy would be life threatening for the mum.

Falling pregnant as a result of my rape wasn't life threatening.

Do you genuinely think I was morally wrong and shouldn't have been allowed by law to have the termination I did? [/quote]
Bless you x

@AngelicaSchuylerAndHerSisters

Someone in the party was done for harassing Ruth Davidson after her child was born

I think that was the leader, and he was cleared. He's still a teacher, and the vile video is still on there youtube channel.

But it doesn't make sense. Ruth Davidson is engaged to her partner, and focus on the family are all for marriage. Right?

[quote Giantrooster]@Standrewsschool
Utah because the leaflet statements pretty much summons up how acquaintances of mine experienced moving to Utah. [/quote]
Thank you. Makes sense now.

Ruth is gay.

Not OK.

@MintyCedric

They can show their opposition to legalisation of euthanasia right up their arses.

I'd like to see any of them see what my poor dad ahs been through in the last 12 months and give me a bloody good reason for keeping him alive in a state you wouldn't let a hamster live.

@MintyCedric

Sorry to hear about your Dad 💐

I don't think parents should be able to opt out of sex education, personally. The children's right to be educated and equipped to protect themselves should trump parents' antediluvian views.

I wouldn't have a teacher on staff in 2021 who was vocal about wanting to bring back physical abuse of children, either. He's a fucking disgrace.

Umm sorry if someone's already posted this but everyone's entitled to an opinion. If you don't like it, don't vote for them. That's democracy for you.

The only thing I agree with is the tax bit. I do think it unfair that families with one high earning parent and one stay at home parent pay more income tax than a family with two earners with exact same household income. It is also unfair that only one parent has to earn over £50k for child benefit to start to phase out...households with two parents earning £45k still get full child benefit despite a £90k household income, but a household with a stay at home parent and one parent earning £65k get zero child benefit. It’s almost like the income tax and child benefit system is encouraging partners to split up and leave one (usually a woman) to raise children by herself...

@Bvop

I’m not sure I agree these are dangerous beliefs. Not particularly palatable, but it doesn’t tend to be beliefs that are dangerous, but behaviours.

Someone can believe that abortion is sinful and choose to avoid it for themselves, but if they’re not harrassing women outside abortion clinics then is their belief really dangerous?

Again, I don’t share their beliefs but I’m glad I live in a country where it’s okay to set up a political party with views that challenge the status quo and have them peacefully tested at the ballot box.

With reference to abortion clinics - www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2021/03/30/scottish-political-party-admit-to-sinister-projections-on-abortion-clinic/

While I've got you @youvegottenminuteslynn , don't know If you saw it but I did apologise on the other thread for losing the plot. It seems to be a very sensitive topic for me. You have always been very good to me on these threads so I'm sorry 💖

That's really good of you and i thought it was great you came back to the thread, it was brave and I think lots of us really appreciated it. And thank you re the sensitive topic - I am so lucky to be in a country where I have bodily autonomy and get passionate about it less for me and more for people who felt / feel obligated to continue a pregnancy detrimental to their wellbeing and against their choices due to the pressure from women who are unlikely to have fallen pregnant from rape (statistically) and men who... oh don't even get me started on men who judge women like me for making that decision. It wasn't a difficult one for me at all, which as I say I feel really lucky for.

Thank you again, we may disagree on some stuff but at least we can do it respectfully. And without flippant, disrespectful emojis!

@NeverDropYourMoonCup

So are midges, but nobody would be daft enough for vote for more of those fuckers.

NeverDropYourMoonCup

I think I love you! LOL