To not be able to believe what I'm reading

[Butwasitherdriveway]

Had a leaflet through my door......

I'm lost for words.

@DiddlyWiddly there's a widdly diddly on another thread

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@DiddlyWiddly there's a widdly diddly on another thread [/quote]
I'm fairly sure there's a WiddlinDiddlin somewhere on MN as well.

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@DiddlyWiddly and feminism can go hand in hand with all sort of batshittery.

I don't judge a whole group of people based on their beliefs. Ironically enough pumper was wide eyes on another thread asking how we can possibly think there's double standards on MN.

@Pumperthepumper I'm glad you're not surprised but frankly I couldn't care less.[/quote]
And yet, here you are, caring enough to reply.

That was the same thread you made up a quote about male suicide and pretended I said it?

feminism can go hand in hand with all sort of batshittery
It can, but the MRA movement is widely known and accepted to be based in misogyny, rooted in the belief that women are ‘lesser’ and men are hard done by.

I don't judge a whole group of people based on their beliefs
I think that probably isn’t true, not just for you but for everyone.
We all judge.
For example, if someone told you they had white supremist beliefs or agreed with nazi principles I assume you would be judging them and not in a good way?

[quote Butwasitherdriveway]@DiddlyWiddly and feminism can go hand in hand with all sort of batshittery.

I don't judge a whole group of people based on their beliefs. Ironically enough pumper was wide eyes on another thread asking how we can possibly think there's double standards on MN.

@Pumperthepumper I'm glad you're not surprised but frankly I couldn't care less.[/quote]
Not even racists? You don’t judge them? Paedophiles? Nope, no judgement at all for anyone who causes harm, all entitled to their beliefs. Sure.

Not engaging @Pumperthepumper, you bore the absolute life out of me. Thread after thread you write the same comments and expect me to care more than the last time. You need to get a life.

@Butwasitherdriveway

Not engaging *@Pumperthepumper*, you bore the absolute life out of me. Thread after thread you write the same comments and expect me to care more than the last time. You need to get a life.

And yet again, here you are, replying to me, and tagging me in it.

@DiddlyWiddly

feminism can go hand in hand with all sort of batshittery It can, but the MRA movement is widely known and accepted to be based in misogyny, rooted in the belief that women are ‘lesser’ and men are hard done by.

I don't judge a whole group of people based on their beliefs
I think that probably isn’t true, not just for you but for everyone.
We all judge.
For example, if someone told you they had white supremist beliefs or agreed with nazi principles I assume you would be judging them and not in a good way?

Il rephrase.

I don't judge MRAs based on the fact one of them founded this party.

If feminists formed a batshit party, I wouldn't judge all of them either.

Except you said ‘there’s nothing wrong with being an MRA’.

Always having to backtrack.

@Pumperthepumper

Except you said ‘there’s nothing wrong with being an MRA’.

Always having to backtrack.

There isn't.

I'm not backtracking.

Il make it really simple so you can understand pumper. Wouldn't want any more 'misunderstandings".

I don't think there's anything wrong with an MRA. The fact that an MRA is involved in this means nothing because I'm not going to judge all MRAs based on that.

You've posted some spectacularly ridiculous comments in the past but how you managed to think I'm backtracking is beyond me

There is though. You can watch an entire programme of Philipp Tanzer’s hateful views on iPlayer:

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p088t1vr

Do you know what an MRA is? It’s very relevant to this party’s aims.

When we have (presumably obviously, as nobody ever really knows for sure on here) women on this thread agreeing with the party's stance (eg on abortion, or traditional family set up) must have to say I'm not seeing the relevance either of whether someone's an MRA or not?
Because men and women can and do hold the same views as this party.

@Butwasitherdriveway

Il make it really simple so you can understand pumper. Wouldn't want any more 'misunderstandings".

I don't think there's anything wrong with an MRA. The fact that an MRA is involved in this means nothing because I'm not going to judge all MRAs based on that.

You've posted some spectacularly ridiculous comments in the past but how you managed to think I'm backtracking is beyond me

Would you judge all racists because one of them is in the KKK?

@Quaagars

Do you know what an MRA is? It’s very relevant to this party’s aims.

When we have (presumably obviously, as nobody ever really knows for sure on here) women on this thread agreeing with the party's stance (eg on abortion, or traditional family set up) must have to say I'm not seeing the relevance either of whether someone's an MRA or not?
Because men and women can and do hold the same views as this party.

Because that particular MRA is a founding member.

@Quaagars

Do you know what an MRA is? It’s very relevant to this party’s aims.

When we have (presumably obviously, as nobody ever really knows for sure on here) women on this thread agreeing with the party's stance (eg on abortion, or traditional family set up) must have to say I'm not seeing the relevance either of whether someone's an MRA or not?
Because men and women can and do hold the same views as this party.

Because pumper saw that someone said one of the members said awful things about a murdered woman and same sex marriage and jumped in to point out another one is an MRA.

@Pumperthepumper, why are you prattling on about racists? You don't like my posts, I definitely don't like yours, we are polar opposites, I think you talk absolute nonsense, goad and provoke . I don't have a problem with MRAs. You do. Nobody else is interested.

Move on. I am..

And before you start your 'Stop.tagging me then", I will, and you can stop replying to my posts to anyone else.

But you’re the one taking issue with my logic, tagging me, and then calling me boring because you can’t argue.

I’d say I’m not the only one who has problem with MRAs but maybe that’s one for another thread.

@Pumperthepumper

But you’re the one taking issue with my logic, tagging me, and then calling me boring because you can’t argue.

I’d say I’m not the only one who has problem with MRAs but maybe that’s one for another thread.

Not can't, don't want to.

Re your second point, I don't care.

Can’t, don’t want to and don’t care - but still tagging me by quoting my post and replying.

@Pumperthepumper

Can’t, don’t want to and don’t care - but still tagging me by quoting my post and replying.

😴

The level of debate you’re capable of - insults, lying, backtracking, and emojis.

Would you judge all racists because one of them is in the KKK?

Seeing as driveway has said If feminists formed a batshit party, I wouldn't judge all of them either.
You don't judge a party by the worst of its members.
The KK and racists is a whole different kettle of fish though - if you're that much of a one to join there in the first place, too right people will judge in that situation.
It's not comparable.

@Pumperthepumper

The level of debate you’re capable of - insults, lying, backtracking, and emojis.

Yes . You're perfect. I'm awful. You're oh so clever.

Now, will you please stop writing to me or to other posters about my posts?.thanks.

And il save you the bother of writing 'but you're the one tagging meeeee'. Because I have done so to ask you to desist. Just stop.

I don't think there's anything wrong with an MRA
Why do you feel this?

Thinking about your earlier comments regarding how sexist, homophobic, possibly racist the Scottish Party is I am surprised and confused as to your stance on Men’s Rights Activism.

The MRA movement, of MRM as I think it is actually termed now is rooted in the belief that women are lesser.

Paul Elam, a very prominent MRA group was quoted as saying ‘women are opportunistic parasites in the lives of men’ and ‘Society piles complete and total responsibility on men for its existence’ and
‘Almost all the sacrifice, of blood and sweat and of life that is required to keep the world turning, to keep us living in relative comfort and safety, is male sacrifice. Women won’t do it. Women can’t do it’

He termed October ‘bash a bitch month’ later claiming it was draw attention to violence against men.

@Quaagars

Would you judge all racists because one of them is in the KKK?

Seeing as driveway has said If feminists formed a batshit party, I wouldn't judge all of them either.
You don't judge a party by the worst of its members.
The KK and racists is a whole different kettle of fish though - if you're that much of a one to join there in the first place, too right people will judge in that situation.
It's not comparable.

Feminism isn’t the opposite of MRA though. You should watch that programme, it’s a real eye opener.