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I wanted Prince Philip to make it to 100 to get a letter from The Queen

325 replies

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 09/04/2021 12:12

Losing your DH after such a long marriage must feel like losing an organ. RIP.

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Stichintime · 09/04/2021 18:02

Keyring, surely even the most staunch royalist doesn't need to watch the same thing on all channels simultaneously?

Lampzade · 09/04/2021 18:04

@AlexaRain

I just hope that Meghan and Harry don’t now release a story saying they weren’t told and found out on the internet or something. Last thing the Queen wants is anymore drama!

Agreed.

Sadly, I suspect H and M are already working out how they can turn the attention to them / make some money out of it.

Horrible comment Harry has just lost his beloved grandfather Nasty cruel post
Keyring · 09/04/2021 18:05

I'm afraid it is a story. The consort to HMQ has died. I'd expect wall to wall programming this evening.

Keyring · 09/04/2021 18:05

@Stichintime

Keyring, surely even the most staunch royalist doesn't need to watch the same thing on all channels simultaneously?
I admit, I'm a news/royalist junkie....
Lampzade · 09/04/2021 18:07

@VladmirsPoutine

Ah, as night follows day the Meghan bashing is in full swing.
Exactly The Queen has just lost her husband and cruel posters have already started bashing this pregnant woman.. These posters need to take a look at themselves.
ohforarainyday · 09/04/2021 18:18

I've been told I am disgusting for even suggesting the impact on the Queen may not be as great as some are speculating

The didn't live together, led separate lives, and he had a new partner named Penny (well not new new, they'd been together for years). It's pretty clear that whatever intense love and devotion they'd once enjoyed had settled into some form of amicable arrangement and that maybe their marriage was stronger spending time apart and leading their own lives, and coming together a few times a year.

I'm sure the Queen is devastated and it's sad for her, I like the Queen, but pp are comparing it to their lovely old nan who wasted away after losing her DH who'd been who her constant companion for 50 years and did everything for her. It's not the same. It's not less sad, but the idea the Queen is going to pine away without him is flat out morbid. He was in the hospital for four weeks and she didn't even visit him! She was filmed unveiling a statue, laughing and cracking jokes while he was preparing for surgery. She is nothing if not stoic.

He was someone she could one hundred per cent depend on and trust.
How do you know?

AlexaRain · 09/04/2021 18:25

I'm sure the Queen is devastated and it's sad for her, I like the Queen, but pp are comparing it to their lovely old nan who wasted away after losing her DH who'd been who her constant companion for 50 years and did everything for her. It's not the same. It's not less sad, but the idea the Queen is going to pine away without him is flat out morbid. He was in the hospital for four weeks and she didn't even visit him! She was filmed unveiling a statue, laughing and cracking jokes while he was preparing for surgery. She is nothing if not stoic.

The monarchy is a business, at best, and the queen is the CEO. This is nothing like your average person's grandad dying.

The monarchy (and aristocracy) have played a blinder over recent years - pretending to be average (eating out of Tupperware etc), so that they can hide in plain site, when actually the monarchy is an anachronistic system that has passed its sell by date.

mermaidsariel · 09/04/2021 18:28

@ohforarainyday

I've been told I am disgusting for even suggesting the impact on the Queen may not be as great as some are speculating

The didn't live together, led separate lives, and he had a new partner named Penny (well not new new, they'd been together for years). It's pretty clear that whatever intense love and devotion they'd once enjoyed had settled into some form of amicable arrangement and that maybe their marriage was stronger spending time apart and leading their own lives, and coming together a few times a year.

I'm sure the Queen is devastated and it's sad for her, I like the Queen, but pp are comparing it to their lovely old nan who wasted away after losing her DH who'd been who her constant companion for 50 years and did everything for her. It's not the same. It's not less sad, but the idea the Queen is going to pine away without him is flat out morbid. He was in the hospital for four weeks and she didn't even visit him! She was filmed unveiling a statue, laughing and cracking jokes while he was preparing for surgery. She is nothing if not stoic.

He was someone she could one hundred per cent depend on and trust.
How do you know?

New partner? What are you wittering about?
JustLyra · 09/04/2021 18:32

New partner? What are you wittering about?

It’s a reference to the rumour that Penny Brabourne was more than his carriage driving partner

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/04/2021 18:33

I assume they’ll televise it, if nothing else it’ll help stop people gathering outside

I'm not sure, but since it's been said the actual funeral service is private I wouldn't have thought TV cameras will be let in?

mermaidsariel · 09/04/2021 18:37

@JustLyra

New partner? What are you wittering about?

It’s a reference to the rumour that Penny Brabourne was more than his carriage driving partner

I know, but it’s nonsense.
Keyring · 09/04/2021 18:38

@ohforarainyday

I've been told I am disgusting for even suggesting the impact on the Queen may not be as great as some are speculating

The didn't live together, led separate lives, and he had a new partner named Penny (well not new new, they'd been together for years). It's pretty clear that whatever intense love and devotion they'd once enjoyed had settled into some form of amicable arrangement and that maybe their marriage was stronger spending time apart and leading their own lives, and coming together a few times a year.

I'm sure the Queen is devastated and it's sad for her, I like the Queen, but pp are comparing it to their lovely old nan who wasted away after losing her DH who'd been who her constant companion for 50 years and did everything for her. It's not the same. It's not less sad, but the idea the Queen is going to pine away without him is flat out morbid. He was in the hospital for four weeks and she didn't even visit him! She was filmed unveiling a statue, laughing and cracking jokes while he was preparing for surgery. She is nothing if not stoic.

He was someone she could one hundred per cent depend on and trust.
How do you know?

You seem awfully knowledgeable about all this....speculation? Or do you have inside knowledge?
JustLyra · 09/04/2021 18:38

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I assume they’ll televise it, if nothing else it’ll help stop people gathering outside

I'm not sure, but since it's been said the actual funeral service is private I wouldn't have thought TV cameras will be let in?

They’ve not said it’ll be private. Just asked the public not to try and get involved. BBC said earlier it’ll still be a royal ceremonial funeral, just pared down.

People working at the funeral don’t count toward the 30 so they would be able to have filming crew if they decided to film, or live broadcast, it.

Keyring · 09/04/2021 18:41

The Obamas have released a written tribute. Both him and Michelle - pure class!

AbsolutelyPatsy · 09/04/2021 18:47

it is very sad for his family.

00100001 · 09/04/2021 18:49

@ScotlandUnited

I wonder if he died in his sleep or if his family were informed and were at his bedside?

There will need to be strict covid compliance because if not, others who have lost loved ones may complain.

The 30 people would be, Liz, Charles, Camilla, Andrew, Anne, Tim, Edward, Sophie, William, Kate, Zara, Mike, Peter, Eugenie, Jack, Beatrice, Eduardo, Louise, James, any living members on Phillips side and the minister.

I don't know if Harry will come over, but Meghan is pregnant and for that (and other reasons) probably not.

Well, actually Harry should be there over Eduardo, Mike and Jack etc.

He's the man's bloody grandson.

He needs to do whatever he must do to attend. Even if that means he has to isolate after

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/04/2021 18:53

@Ponoka7

"A racist is a racist" You'd be hard pressed to find someone born in 1921 who didn't have some bigatry and make inappropriate comments. That includes people of all ethnicities.
My grandfather was of his generation. In all his life I never heard him make a racist comment.
00100001 · 09/04/2021 19:00

Doesn't mean he never said anything racist...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/04/2021 19:04

They’ve not said it’ll be private. Just asked the public not to try and get involved

Ah, my mistake - that's definitely what it says in some of the media, but it looks as if they've got it wrong (again Hmm)

worriedatthemoment · 09/04/2021 19:05

The irony of those who accuse others and struggle to be kind themselves
Rip Prince Philip
He had a good long life , shame he didn't make it to 100 but 99 is a good long life

poppycat10 · 09/04/2021 19:07

My grandfather was of his generation. In all his life I never heard him make a racist comment

And my father was the same generation and he was racist. Your point being?

JustLyra · 09/04/2021 19:08

@Puzzledandpissedoff

They’ve not said it’ll be private. Just asked the public not to try and get involved

Ah, my mistake - that's definitely what it says in some of the media, but it looks as if they've got it wrong (again Hmm)

They seem to be conflating “not a massive public event” with “private” in some reporting.

Someone on the BBC earlier used “royal ceremonial funeral” and “small family funeral” in the same sentence.

It’s amazing that this pandemic has been going on for a whole year and yet the reporting about potential changes seems to be causing massive troubles for the journalists, as if they’re totally surprised by the possibility.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/04/2021 19:11

And my father was the same generation and he was racist. Your point being?

My point being transparent. That excusing blatant racism on the basis that a particular generation couldn't be expected to know any better is wrong, and doesn't let that person off the hook.

Mittens030869 · 09/04/2021 19:14

The warmth of the tributes from the Obamas and Sentanu, which appeared to come from the heart, don’t fit with the impression that he was a racist. Plus the fact that Harry and Meghan were at pains to clarify that it wasn’t him who made the comment about Archie’s skin colour. She clearly doesn’t consider him to be racist.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 09/04/2021 19:21

Here’s the Obama’s statement. The best tribute I’ve seen so far. They clearly thought a lot of him.

Former President Obama and Michelle Obama are lauding Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, who they say "showed the world what it meant to be a supportive husband to a powerful woman."

The husband of Queen Elizabeth II and patriarch of Britain's royal family died Friday at 99, Buckingham Palace said.

In a statement released hours after news of Philip's death broke, the Obamas shared their impression on first meeting the royal couple in 2009.

"As two Americans unaccustomed to palaces and pomp, we didn't know what to expect," the 44th president and former first lady said.

"We shouldn't have worried. The Queen and Prince Philip immediately put us at ease with their grace and generosity, turning a ceremonial occasion into something far more natural, even comfortable," they said.

Philip, the pair said, was particularly "kind and warm, with a sharp wit and unfailing good humor." Following their first encounter, the Obamas said, their admiration for him grew: "We will miss him dearly."

"Like the Queen, Prince Philip saw world wars and economic crises come and go. The radio gave way to the television, and the television to the internet. And through it all, he helped provide steady leadership and guiding wisdom," the Obamas' statement said.

"At the Queen's side or trailing the customary two steps behind, Prince Philip showed the world what it meant to be a supportive husband to a powerful woman," the Obamas said. Even still, the former executive mansion residents noted, Philip "found a way to lead without demanding the spotlight - serving in combat in World War II, commanding a frigate in the Royal Navy, and tirelessly touring the world to champion British industry and excellence."

Expressing their condolences to the royal family and everyone who "knew and loved this remarkable man," the Obamas said of Philip, "Through his extraordinary example, he proved that true partnership has room for both ambition and selflessness - all in service of something greater."

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