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Driveway with no dropped kerb..

255 replies

MadgeHarvyy · 09/04/2021 08:50

Does this mean it is not legally a driveway..?

OP posts:
YesILikeItToo · 09/04/2021 11:19

The issue of whether you can drive across a pavement to get to your property is actually legally very complex indeed. Different council uses and police forces use different practical measures to enforce a de facto local regime. You probably want to find out more about the approach taken wherever the undropped kerb happens to be.

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 09/04/2021 11:20

@ShutUpAlex

It’s nowhere near our front garden, our private driveway is across the road in a row of drives and garages that we all pay for privately to the council.
You kept that one quiet didn't you!

But I don't think it makes a difference. No dropped kerb, no double yellows, I don't think a fine to anyone parking infront would hold up in court so as long as the person receiving the fine decides to fight it rather than pay it, I think they'll be alright.

Out of interest though, how beat up are your cars going over a pavement so often and why has the council decided to not put in a dropped kerb for you?

Stovetopespresso · 09/04/2021 11:21

@JesusIsAnyNameFree like I said we were given permission (just about- it was hotly contested Jackie Weaver style) to park on our land next to our house.
I hope they know its not legal! I have had to see a bloke with a 20 mph sign off once, he put it somewhere else....
we have 'sold' the house (it fell through at the last moment) but surveys were done and this never came up. weird. our neighbours have been driving over pavements to their spaces, the spaces probably existed before the pavements did mind you.

Mom2four · 09/04/2021 11:21

Yes I think so

user1471538283 · 09/04/2021 11:22

It isn't legally a drive however, in my favourite house we couldn't have the kerb dropped because of the electrics box that was on part of the pavement. Also, neighbors there didn't block you in!

In our most recent house, it still wasn't legally a drive and neighbors would block you in.

ShutUpAlex · 09/04/2021 11:23

Our cars are fine. I have no idea why they’re not dropped kerbs. None of the spaces are dropped and there’s about 12? There’s loads of on street parking too and now I think of it, no dropped kerbs anywhere which is probably illegal for wheelchair users and that.

Whoopsies · 09/04/2021 11:24

Our local council have started going around fining cars parked on driveways with no drop curb!

GabsAlot · 09/04/2021 11:24

if its not dropped i park there tough shit

you shouldnt go out of your way op for this neighbour when he wouldnt do you one favour

also send him the law on droppped kerbs

Stovetopespresso · 09/04/2021 11:25

yes our cars are fine too!

user1471538283 · 09/04/2021 11:25

I would do nothing ever again for him and tell him why not! How anyone could do this to a child?

Dropped kerb or not if someone needed that spot overnight for a child I would let them!

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 09/04/2021 11:26

@Stovetopespresso

As I've said, they aren't actually allowed, but unless someone reports them (unlikely) or a very grumpy council man or traffic warden sees it and decides to make an issue of it, nothing will happen.

The worry would be selling the house. I don't know how you have this permission/agreement, I've never heard of it before.

MangoBiscuit · 09/04/2021 11:28

I stayed over night at a friends (before covid) Their road is wide, but often has cars parked up and down both sides. I parked in front of a house with no drop kerb, and NO DRIVEWAY. They had lots of pretty plants, and a small gravel area, too small for even a tiny car, which also had plants in the middle. I made sure to leave a good sized gap so the width of their path was clear, just in case they had a push bike in the house, or a motorbike that was out.

I still came back the next morning to a rude, shitty note on my windscreen telling me not to block their driveway! I wrote on the back "You don't HAVE a driveway" and put it back through their door.

WestendVBroadway · 09/04/2021 11:29

@ShutUpAlex and anyone else in doubt !

Driveway with no dropped kerb..
Driveway with no dropped kerb..
Driveway with no dropped kerb..
lanbro · 09/04/2021 11:30

I paid £450 for the council to drop mine about 8 years ago, barely even use the drive a xh never finished it properly but good to know I always have a space outside my house!

IReallyNeedMoreGin · 09/04/2021 11:40

@BrieAndChilli

This is an (extreme) example of what happens when you don’t have permission! It’s not a dropped kerb situation but equally if you don’t have a dropped kerb arranged with the council they could legally come along and let utilities erect a telepgraph pole or a junction box or a bus stop on the pavement on front of your ‘drive’ and there’s nothing you could do about it
Saw something like this in the news a year or 2 ago. Family turned their front garden into a parking spot for their car and put big black gates at the front. Trouble was they had to drive across a public pavement, the corner of a public grassed area then across another pavement to get to the road. Council came along and put black wrought iron fencing all round the green. The home owners then had the cheek to go to the papers to complain! 😁
JesusIsAnyNameFree · 09/04/2021 11:43

@ShutUpAlex

Our cars are fine. I have no idea why they’re not dropped kerbs. None of the spaces are dropped and there’s about 12? There’s loads of on street parking too and now I think of it, no dropped kerbs anywhere which is probably illegal for wheelchair users and that.
Depending on how much you're paying for the parking, I would kick up a fuss about the lack of dropped kerb.

The few times I've gone up on a kerb it pains me as it feels like I'm hurting the car and it feels so violent Grin

HunterHearstHelmsley · 09/04/2021 11:50

There's a street near me with no dropped kerbs. The road is too narrow for it. One side have made their front garden into "driveways" but they can't get on or off them if anyone is parked opposite, due to the angle.

There is always someone parked opposite. The houses without "driveways". It always tickles me when you see them trying to figure out what to do. You would think they would learn.

cabbageking · 09/04/2021 11:51

Parking across a driveway whether there is a dropped kerb or not breaches the same code. The code covers both areas, with a dropped code and in front of an entrance to a property.

Whether the access to the drive is legal or not is a separate consideration.

ShutUpAlex · 09/04/2021 11:52

You have to go over them really gently. The big square speed bumps that we have are higher than the kerbs and they are hard on the cars. There’s 3 of them on our street

Tistheseason17 · 09/04/2021 11:54

I had the opposite in an old house. Dropped kerb but driveway was a grassed front garden that I accessed through a half knocked down wall! 😂 all done by prev owner who had money for dropped kerb but not driveway! I did it in the end.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 09/04/2021 11:54

My house has a dropped kerb but no driveway or access (it was built on the site of an old building that did).

People get ticketed outside all the time.

PADH · 09/04/2021 11:57

We've applied to get ours dropped. We contacted our local council, they drew up plans for where we are allowed to drop with exact measurements etc. We pay them £250 for the permission and notify them once we've carried out the work. They then come out to inspect the work we've done. If they have to fix anything, it comes out of the £250 (or if necessary issue us a bill of the difference). If its up to standard we get the £250 back. We're clubbing together with a couple of neighbours who also want their curbs dropped, so the work will all be carried out in one day, making it worth the contractors time (he originally said he'd be charging more than the job was worth because it was such a small job) and it all works out cheaper for us.

toots111 · 09/04/2021 11:59

Some of the houses on our street don't have dropped kerbs but do have white lines from the council to prevent people parking over their drive way. But that's because they are on a T junction and if they had a dropped kerb, all the rain flowing down the hill would basically run into their house! So they have special permission. It's a pretty unique circumstance though I think.

Chunkymenrock · 09/04/2021 12:00

I'm just so happy to see kerb spelt correctly for once.

Changechangychange · 09/04/2021 12:02

@SoupDragon

What happens if you build a little drawbridge so that your car is never actually driving on the pavement 🤔
Oh, that’s totally fine. Council can’t touch you for that Grin