Page 2 | Driveway with no dropped kerb..

MadgeHarvyy · 2021-04-09T07:50:07+00:00

Does this mean it is not legally a driveway..?

Howshouldibehave · 09/04/2021 09:59

it very much is still a driveway!

Are you in England? If you don’t have a dropped kerb, it isn’t a driveway.

AaronPurr · 09/04/2021 10:01

really? we had a driveway put in about 10 years ago (bought a strip of neighbours land adjoining our house), all the permissions done, eeds changed, highways asked, plans etc, but we cba/can't afford to get the kerb dropped. it very much is still a driveway!

That's most unusual. I'm surprised it has permission, as if you haven't had the kerb / pavement done properly then the utilities underneath are at risk every time you drive over them.

JemimaTiggywinkle · 09/04/2021 10:01

Not a driveway, and anyone can park on the road in front of it.

BarbaraofSeville · 09/04/2021 10:05

we had a driveway put in about 10 years ago (bought a strip of neighbours land adjoining our house), all the permissions done, eeds changed, highways asked, plans etc, but we cba/can't afford to get the kerb dropped. it very much is still a driveway

It's really not. You park your car on your patio and drive on the pavement illegally to get there. You're lucky you haven't been caught by the council, as happened to my DF, but they live on a main road. He doesn't drive any more, but when he did, he just left his car on the parking area next to the house instead because he too decided not to pay to drop the kerb.

mumwon · 09/04/2021 10:06

Hasn't there been cases where unofficial driveways (aka patios with aspirations) have had cars parked on & they drove over yellow lines - they were prosecuted for parking on double yellow lines

SoupDragon · 09/04/2021 10:12

What happens if you build a little drawbridge so that your car is never actually driving on the pavement 🤔

WeAllHaveWings · 09/04/2021 10:13

we had a driveway put in about 10 years ago (bought a strip of neighbours land adjoining our house), all the permissions done, eeds changed, highways asked, plans etc, but we cba/can't afford to get the kerb dropped.
it very much is still a driveway!

You may have permission to use that piece of land as a driveway, but you cannot legally drive over the pavement to access it until the kerb is dropped.

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 09/04/2021 10:15

@SoupDragon

What happens if you build a little drawbridge so that your car is never actually driving on the pavement 🤔

You can't put a drawbridge down over the pavement

Iwantacookie · 09/04/2021 10:15

@SoupDragon

What happens if you build a little drawbridge so that your car is never actually driving on the pavement 🤔

I've got visions of each house on the street having it's own little drawbridge and moat

raincamepouringdown · 09/04/2021 10:18

Without the dropped kerb, it's not considered a legal parking place. You can be fined and you have no right to complain if someone blocks you in by parking on the street while you're parked there.

IamaBluebird · 09/04/2021 10:18

You’d be lucky to even see a dropped kerb in some areas here. Every car seems to be on the pavement.

Howshouldibehave · 09/04/2021 10:19

forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5893857/sold-house-with-driveway-without-drop-kerb

It may cause all manner of problems when you come to sell, too.

WeatherwaxLives · 09/04/2021 10:19

If it's a house you're looking to buy OP then be aware there's no guarantee that permission for a dropped kerb will be granted. There's stuff like it being too close to a junction or whatever that you could make an educated guess about, and there's stuff like what's buried under the pavement that you've no way of knowing about.

Rillington · 09/04/2021 10:20

@Stovetopespresso It most definitely is not a driveway without a dropped kerb. It is a paved front garden.

Chooseausernamenow · 09/04/2021 10:22

@FeelinHappy

You can apply to the council for permission to have it dropped. Once you have paid for that permission you might need to organise and pay for the work yourself.

Our neighbours did theirs last year. They had to pay £500 to the council to have it dropped.

Mistressinthetulips · 09/04/2021 10:24

Near where I live every other "drive" has those plastic ramp things in the road to facilitate driving onto the pavement.
It is very, very widespread.

Howshouldibehave · 09/04/2021 10:25

Our neighbours did theirs last year. They had to pay £500 to the council to have it dropped

Wow, that’s cheap! We looked to have ours done in 2001 and it was nearly £2500! We moved to somewhere with an actual driveway.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 09/04/2021 10:26

Everyone saying definitively no, is a brownie. Many country roads have no pavement, so no kerb to drop. There are still legal driveways on these roads.

OP, if there is a pavement, then yes, it needs a dropped kerb to be a driveway. If it ends straight on the road, then it doesn't.

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 09/04/2021 10:27

Argh, townie, not brownie.

Ponoka7 · 09/04/2021 10:28

Where I live the HA and a lot of private owners turned the gardens into driveways. People put a curve of concrete against the curb to drive on to the pavement. This has been the case for over ten years. No action has been taken. It must depend on if you've got neighbours who report it.

AaronPurr · 09/04/2021 10:28

@Hollyhocksarenotmessy

Everyone saying definitively no, is a brownie. Many country roads have no pavement, so no kerb to drop. There are still legal driveways on these roads.

OP, if there is a pavement, then yes, it needs a dropped kerb to be a driveway. If it ends straight on the road, then it doesn't.

Well given the OP was talking about a dropped kerb it's a definite no in her situation.

JesusIsAnyNameFree · 09/04/2021 10:30

@Hollyhocksarenotmessy

I'm pretty sure no one thought that a road without a pavement needed a dropped kerb..

Original poster

MadgeHarvyy · 09/04/2021 10:33

Thanks everyone, this is what I thought.
To explain further, this is the way a couple of doors down has his "driveway".
Our road is so tight for parking, and on easter sunday it was impossible to get a space (families visiting or whatever). We have a disabled ds (in the process of getting a disabled space in front of our house) and I chapped on this neighbours door and politely asked if we could park in front of his drive (this was about 9pm but I knew he was awake I saw him moving about) I said dh would move the car first thing it was just because ds had fallen asleep in the car and it would be so much easier to get him into the house if he let us park there. Anyway he kind of hummed and hawed, like well.. I dont know... I might need out... and finally said no. Fine. But I now realise it is not even a dropped kerb. We have had issues with this neighbour before where he has asked me to move my car because it is blocking his gate. Not the "driveway" one btw just a normal gate that is next to it. I felt a bit pissed off.because we would let anybody do this overnight as long as we didnt need out, or we would swap places so they could be at the back if we had a driveway. I was just a bit annoyed and dh has helped him out in the past (hes elderly and dh helps him with his bins, carrying things for him etc, I go his shopping for him sometimes) but I feel like not going our my way to help again. I really want to tell him that legally he does not have a drive way anyway but i wont be that petty lol.

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littlepattilou · 09/04/2021 10:35

I can see why you were a bit irked, but as you say, no need to be petty.

littlepattilou · 09/04/2021 10:35

@SoupDragon

What happens if you build a little drawbridge so that your car is never actually driving on the pavement 🤔

I love this.

@MadgeHarvyy I think the posters are right who are saying it can't be a proper 'official' drive if there's no dropped kerb. And I am pretty sure if someone parks in front of it, there's nothing you could do about it.

This guy should really apply to the council for permission to get/install a dropped kerb. For his own sake really...