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The Trump wannabes are hoiking up their posturing pants whilst we wonder if Biden can achieve an FDR-style presidency (Biden-Trump Thread #127)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/04/2021 07:53

We're still here.

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AcrossthePond55 · 28/06/2021 15:47

Every time I see his ridiculous posturing and repetition of his deluded lies, I keep seeing Jim Carrey in my mind's eye (was is in Ace Ventura?) with his finger making an 'L' on his forehead saying "Loo-HOO-zah-HER!!!".

I'm loving the reports coming out of Barr's statements. Doofus must be shitty plain rabbits that one of his most 'devoted' minions has so publicly turned on him. Goes to show, also, what a hypocritical opportunist Barr was all along, and Doofus fell for his act. A bit of 'hoist with his own petard, no?"

lionheart · 28/06/2021 16:35

I've been on these threads for long enough to know that should be 'plaid rabbits.'

Plain ones will do though. Smile

This does not look good for first and best daughter:

www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/documents-show-ivanka-trump-didnt-testify-accurately-in-inauguration-scandal-case/

AcrossthePond55 · 28/06/2021 17:22

[quote lionheart]I've been on these threads for long enough to know that should be 'plaid rabbits.'

Plain ones will do though. Smile

This does not look good for first and best daughter:

www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/06/documents-show-ivanka-trump-didnt-testify-accurately-in-inauguration-scandal-case/[/quote]
Lol, It certainly should! Plain rabbits are fine for ordinary times, but it must be plaid for HYUGE upsets!!!

Damn you autocorrect!!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 29/06/2021 13:59

Did anyone else notice that 77-year-old Rudy Giuliani recently claimed to have been a lawyer for sixty years? Clearly he was a precocious brat.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 29/06/2021 13:59

Trump in financial and political danger as company faces possible criminal charges.
New York prosecutors may soon bring indictment against Trump Organization tied to perks for top executives.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/28/donald-trump-organization-new-york-criminal-charges?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The Trump wannabes are hoiking up their posturing pants whilst we wonder if Biden can achieve an FDR-style presidency (Biden-Trump Thread #127)
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AcrossthePond55 · 29/06/2021 14:24

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Trump in financial and political danger as company faces possible criminal charges.
New York prosecutors may soon bring indictment against Trump Organization tied to perks for top executives.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/28/donald-trump-organization-new-york-criminal-charges?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other[/quote]
That pic is Brilliant!!!!! (As is the news)

Unfortunately, bringing charges against the organization isn't quite the same as bringing charges against Doofus. I fear that once again he'll slip the noose with his usual 'layers upon layers upon layers' between him and the actual wrongdoing. He's better at making 'innocent' statements that result in wrongdoing by other to try to 'please' him than King Henry II!!!

AcrossthePond55 · 29/06/2021 14:25

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Did anyone else notice that 77-year-old Rudy Giuliani recently claimed to have been a lawyer for sixty years? Clearly he was a precocious brat.
That's 60 years in 'Trump Time'. God knows the years from 2017-2021 seemed like a century!!!
Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 29/06/2021 15:18

Interesting Opinion piece in the Washington Post last night: www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/28/george-conway-trump-barr-lawyers/ It was only after had read the whole thing that I realised who its author was Grin

Here's the copy and paste of the column as I'm not sure if it's behind a paywall.

Quote:
Donald Trump could never really count on the lawyers.

No matter how many cynical or craven congressmen, toadying aides, grifting consultants, unhinged activists, disinforming talking heads and deluded cultists he may have had, Trump still needed the lawyers. He needed serious members of the bar to provide at least some semblance of a legal justification for his attempted self-coup.

They never did.

Nearly six months after Jan. 6, as Trump’s private business stands on the verge of indictment, we’ve been learning more about how lawyers stood in the way of his attempt to commit the ultimate abuse of public trust during his final days in office.

The latest revelations involve former attorney general William P. Barr. An excerpt from a forthcoming book by ABC News correspondent Jonathan Karl describes what Barr thought about the 45th president’s claims of electoral fraud: “It was all bulls-t." The Justice Department “realized from the beginning it was just bulls-." No legal term, English or Latin, fits better than that.

Barr shared a similar assessment with Trump at the White House on Dec. 1, 2020, Karl reports. You’ve shown no fraud, Barr explained, and yet “your people keep on shoveling this s--- out.”

Barr’s opposition left Trump enraged. One attendee described the president as having “the eyes and mannerism of a madman.” The book reports that the “livid” president responded by saying, “You must hate Trump. You must hate Trump.”

To be sure, Barr’s rectitude that day doesn’t excuse his earlier kowtowing to Trump or his politicization of the Justice Department. And what Barr had done to precipitate his confrontation with Trump — issuing a bombshell public statement that the Justice Department had found no significant electoral fraud — didn’t exactly arise from high-minded motive: Karl reports that then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) had prevailed upon Barr to make the announcement, fearing that Trump’s campaign to overturn the presidential election would cost their party the Senate.

But make no mistake: Barr, in Karl’s telling, did the right thing by refusing to treat Trump’s fraud claims as anything other than what he believed them to be: factual and legal manure.

And after Barr had resigned in the wake of that fiery confrontation, the remaining political appointees at the Justice Department similarly stood up to Trump. Barr’s successor, then-Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey A. Rosen, steadfastly refused Trump’s demand that the department seek to overturn the election.

Rosen did that despite knowing that the president might replace him with Jeffrey Clark, an official who was apparently eager to do Trump’s bidding. The remaining members of the Justice Department’s senior leadership likewise stood firm. They entered into a bureaucratic suicide pact by which they would all resign if Rosen were fired.

Emails recently unearthed by a congressional investigation show that Trump and his White House relentlessly urged these senior Justice Department officials to put Trump’s interests over the nation’s, and to follow Trump’s desires over the rule of law. They balked — and succeeded in running out the clock on Trump’s mendacious claims and his term of office.

Not attempting to destroy constitutional democracy would seem to be a low standard for members of the bar. And it is. But the importance of these lawyers’ refusals to behave lawlessly in the waning days of Trump’s presidency can’t be overstated.

As Barr put it at the White House with Trump on Dec. 1, according to Karl, “No self-respecting lawyer” would go “anywhere near” the president’s meritless claims. He was right: A number of lawyers quit their representation of Trump’s campaign as the absurdity of his claims became clear.

Their assessment was upheld by Trump-appointed judges, who in turn dealt scathing decisional blows to Trump’s electoral-fraud litigation charade. Those jurists included Stephanos Bibas, an appellate court appointee from Pennsylvania who emphatically affirmed that “democracy depends on counting all lawful votes promptly and finally not setting them aside without weighty proof.”

Precisely because good lawyers couldn’t fathom Trump’s false claims of fraud, Trump was left with what Barr aptly called a “clown show” of a legal effort — the clown show led by Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani got his well-earned due last week. His ceaseless public lying in support of Trump led a New York court to suspend his license to practice law because his conduct had undermined “the profession’s role as a crucial source of reliable information.”

The lawyers of the Trump era weren’t perfect — far from it — but Americans should still be grateful there were more Rosens than Giulianis. Even Barr deserves some credit.

And for that, in the end, we owe the essential culture of America’s legal profession. As exemplified by the decision suspending Giuliani, that culture, at its best, seeks to vindicate factual truth and the rule of law — values entirely anathematic to Trump. Which is why the lawyers could never really be on his side.
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Roussette · 29/06/2021 16:02

That's an interesting article

lionheart · 29/06/2021 19:12

Isn't it?

www.rawstory.com/trump-4th-of-july-rally-cancelled/

'''There is a God": Trump brutally mocked after he's denied permit for July 4th weekend rally.'

AcrossthePond55 · 29/06/2021 21:22

@lionheart

Isn't it?

www.rawstory.com/trump-4th-of-july-rally-cancelled/

'''There is a God": Trump brutally mocked after he's denied permit for July 4th weekend rally.'

May this be the first of many cancellations!

lionheart · 30/06/2021 15:35

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/560747-noem-to-send-50-south-dakota-national-guard-troops-to-texas-border

'Noem’s office said that the initial deployment of as many as 50 South Dakota National Guard troops will last between 30 and 60 days and will be paid for with a private donation. It’s not clear yet what their mission will be, but Noem’s office said that state officials are working to finalize the details of the effort.'

AcrossthePond55 · 30/06/2021 23:17

@lionheart

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/560747-noem-to-send-50-south-dakota-national-guard-troops-to-texas-border

'Noem’s office said that the initial deployment of as many as 50 South Dakota National Guard troops will last between 30 and 60 days and will be paid for with a private donation. It’s not clear yet what their mission will be, but Noem’s office said that state officials are working to finalize the details of the effort.'

This is nothing but a scheme by two Trump-loving governors to try to manufacture a crisis at the border.
AcrossthePond55 · 01/07/2021 15:57

Supreme Court decision on AZ voting suits. It's a sad day.

Excerpt from article;
"The court upheld two provisions of the Arizona law. The first provision says in-person ballots cast at the wrong precinct on Election Day must be wholly discarded. Another provision restricts a practice known as "ballot collection," and says only family caregivers, mail carriers and election officials can deliver another person's completed ballot to a polling place."

www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/voting-rights-act-supreme-court-ruling/index.html

AcrossthePond55 · 01/07/2021 16:08

And also:

Excerpt:
"The Supreme Court on Thursday invalidated a California rule that requires charitable organizations to disclose the names of contributors in a case that could impact the future of "dark money" politics."

www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/politics/california-charitable-contributions-dark-money-supreme-court/index.html

Both decisions straight along 'party' lines. There are rumours that Breyer (aged 82/liberal) has decided to retire but I haven't seen or heard anything yet. I'm sure he's being urged to retire before the mid-terms as the Dems have control of the Senate and will be able to confirm a younger liberal justice. It only takes a simple majority to confirm and I'm sure they don't want to take any chances.

Somewhat traditionally justices have announced their retirements just after the SCOTUS ends their session. Midterms are Fall 2022 but I'm sure the Dems in DC don't want him to wait until then.

lionheart · 01/07/2021 16:30

On a more positive note:

www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-indictment-business-impact/

AcrossthePond55 · 01/07/2021 18:11

[quote lionheart]On a more positive note:

www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-indictment-business-impact/[/quote]
I'm happy that the indictments came down, but they've made it pretty clear that these particular indictments will NOT result in indictments against Doofus. I'm just hoping that Weisselberg turns "Weaselberg" and starts singing like a canary in order to save his own skin. Again, the problem is the layers upon layers Doofus puts between his 'orders' and the actual crimes. There will probably need to be a lot of human dominoes that will need to fall before a legal finger can be pointed directly at him.

lionheart · 01/07/2021 19:06

I'm hoping things are just warming up. Grin