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The Trump wannabes are hoiking up their posturing pants whilst we wonder if Biden can achieve an FDR-style presidency (Biden-Trump Thread #127)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/04/2021 07:53

We're still here.

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AcrossthePond55 · 14/06/2021 00:41

@Roussette

Your previous post Across.

What scary times. I've read on Twitter that people are getting frustrated with Merrick Garland, for no action on the Insurrection, but then others come along and say it's all happening in the background

Dirty tricks by the GOP

I think the Garland and the DoJ are trying to find that fine line between being able to prosecute a presidential miscreant like Doofus whilst still being able to protect the office of the presidency as well as former presidents from malicious and/or frivolous prosecutions and lawsuits. I understand that the President needs some type of legal 'shield' but not the presidential immunity as it's been in the past, nor Doofus' Nixonian idea of 'total immunity'.

The problem is that in the meantime Doofus and his gang are working hard to stir up trouble, find excuses and/or denying their evil deeds. And the longer the DoJ/Garland waits, the worse it's going to get.

lionheart · 14/06/2021 14:52

Yes, the waiting makes people nervous or causes them to doubt.

Of course, the gap can easily be exploited by the GOP (and others).

www.politicususa.com/2021/06/13/snake-in-the-grass-rod-rosenstein-plays-dumb-on-doj-spying-on-democrats.html

lionheart · 14/06/2021 14:57

Lincoln Project:

twitter.com/i/status/1404423382972604417

Cacacoisfarraige · 14/06/2021 16:44

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lionheart · 15/06/2021 01:03

Investigation.

nadler.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=394671

lionheart · 15/06/2021 01:37

edition.cnn.com/2021/06/14/politics/trump-doj-leak-investigation-explainer/index.html

'First we learned that former President Donald Trump's Department of Justice secretly obtained records about the communications of members of the press.

Then we learned it secretly sought data about the communications of his political enemies in Congress.

Now we have learned it secretly sought information about the communications of Trump's own White House counsel, Don McGahn.
The rat-a-tat revelations raise more questions than they answer about why the Justice Department the federal agency charged with upholding America's rule of law, regardless of politics was so into the business of people the then-President viewed as his enemies.

Add to years of the alarming public disclosures of what the department did under Trump the realization that the department under Biden has not exactly been publicly forthcoming with what happened under the previous leadership.

Democrats are gearing up for a full-scale investigation of the whole affair. Appearing on CNN, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi compared the DOJ subpoenas to former President Richard Nixon's infamous "enemies list."'

PerkingFaintly · 15/06/2021 12:25

Yep, having watched the Nixon documentary this is soooo familiar.

So much for government of laws, not of men.

(I'd usually think of adding "and women", but in this case it doesn't seem needed. It was men. Mediocre white men, even. Oh god give me the confidence of, etc.)

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/06/2021 13:28

I was in Helsinki on the day Trump got it closed. We were catching the evening ferry to Sweden and had planned to spend the day getting lunch and then having a browse round the market and the shops before the ferry at about 5. We actually spent that day in the 32 degree heat in a car in a traffic jam which we couldn't get out of, hoping the bastards would bugger off in time for us to get to the dock before the ferry sailed. The only people more pissed off than those in cars were seemed to be the police who had to try to keep the population reasonably calm whilst this was going on.

Roussette · 16/06/2021 16:29

Gosh Asking what a pain

I am huge fan of Fiona Hill, Helsinki must've been really really bad for her to say all that

AcrossthePond55 · 16/06/2021 16:30

Poor Fiona.

It must have been like having a drunk DH/BF making a fool of himself singing bad Karaoke in front of everyone.

Times eleventy-billion.

Roussette · 16/06/2021 16:32

Yes!

I just love hearing that north country accent in amongst all the Washington top bods! And the way she stuck it to Trump at the impeachment hearings Grin

lionheart · 17/06/2021 01:04

That sounds grim Asking.

Love the way Fiona Hill was thinking up escape and diversion plans.

lionheart · 17/06/2021 17:38

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/trump-corruption-consequences/619225/

'A torrent of new revelations is filling in the picture of how Donald Trump used, and abused, his authority as president. But the disclosures may serve only to underscore how little remains known about all the ways in which Trump barreled through traditional limits on the exercise of presidential power—and highlight the urgency of developing a more comprehensive accounting before the 2024 election, when he may seek to regain those powers.'

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 17/06/2021 18:03

Comparisons with Nixon have Trump coming out worse, because Nixon did at least get an actual agreement with China which benefited both sides, as opposed to shaking hands with some leader and then giving that leader whatever it was they wanted. As far as can be made out, Nixon arrived in office and told Kissinger within a week that he was determined to improve relations with Red China, starting by always calling it The People's Republic of China and never Red China at all.

That's something like 100% more statesmanlike than Trump ever managed.

Lweji · 18/06/2021 10:25

Yes. He was a crook, but a crooked statesman, rather than a crooked conman.

lionheart · 18/06/2021 14:34

He also knew when to leave the stage.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 18/06/2021 19:39

Is Pence finally rueing the day he signed up to he Doofus's serf.

‘Traitor!’ Pence Faces Hecklers During Conservative Christian Summit

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/06/2021 20:08

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy, could it.

Roussette · 18/06/2021 22:32

Exactly!

lionheart · 18/06/2021 23:55

Overdue.

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