Is makeup a form of catfishing?

[qwertykeyboards]

Okay hear me out. Before I start this thread I just want to say I’m NOT bashing women who wear makeup - I myself love makeup and wear it regularly. I’m just really interested in other peoples opinions.

Lately I’ve just been thinking about whether a full face of makeup could amount to cat fishing of some sort. I myself look completely different when I have a full face of makeup on. In fact when I wear makeup I am constantly catcalled and stared at by men. Whereas when I go out with absolutely nothing on that doesn’t happen as much. Sometimes I even think, “if only you saw me when I woke up this morning!” 😂

I was speaking about this with a couple of my friends who admitted that their boyfriends have yet to see them without makeup! That’s crazy to me! What if the person you’re with ends up totally not into your fresh face and the makeup kind of tricked them into thinking you look like something that in reality took a bunch of makeup and an hour at the mirror to achieve.

Just a thought.

YABU - don’t be so stupid!
YANBU - to an extent makeup can put out a false image

I think makeup can be very deceiving! Some women genuinely look completely different with and without, which I guess seems like a FORM of catfishing like you said. It can completely change someone's skin tone and texture for example and how their bone structure looks etc it can be dishonest and I wouldn't be surprised if lots of people weren't attracted to someone's natural face if they're used to seeing them with lots of makeup on.

Makeup could do that, in a way.

I wear makeup but don't look massively different with it on. I don't like overdrawn lips and all that. I think anyone can tell when someone is very made up, and if they are surprised that they look different without the makeup... they're a bit stupid.

As someone who wears absolutely no make up I'm genuinely interested- those saying you wear it for yourselves and nobody else, would you still wear it if you knew you weren't going to see another person for say 2 weeks? I promise I'm not being goady, it's just something I've never really understood!

If some bloke thinks I’ve actually got sparkly eyelids that’s his own problem.

Now let’s talk about all the poor cows who are going to be stuck with fella’s with weak chins and pasty faces when beards go out of fashion.

albatross26 yes, I am wearing some right now and have only seen my children in days! It's part of my morning routine. I would probably wear a little more if I were going into work or out for the evening.

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notforonesecond's post that was aimed at.

My boyfriend shaves and puts product in his hair. How dare he trap me in this hideous web of deceit

I don’t really wear make-up but I’ve only ever heard the “make-up is catfishing” argument from hardcore misogynists and incel types - the kind of guys who think that men are the oppressed sex because they might spend ages pursuing a women who looks like a “seven” but turns out to be a sneaky “three” when she scrubs her face. Not suggesting that you’re one of them, OP, but if I were you I’d wonder what the hell my friends have been reading.

What sort of idiot would not realise that makeup was false? It’s not like a bald man wearing a very good quality toupee

I think if a person takes off a thick layer of make up, removes a very heavily padded bra, extra strong Spanx, 6” heels and a wig, and washes off a fake tan, then they shouldn’t be surprised if another person thinks they’ve been deceived. But no, not catfished.

Not sure catfishing is the right word but I agree that make up can massively change ones appearance so that they look like a completely different person. I think there’s also an element that when we are made up we exude more confidence and that in itself is attractive.

It's certainly true that make up can completely change your appearance. I am totally hopeless at putting it on, get bewildered by all the different things other than the basics so I never look much different with or without it. A lady I work with on the other hand is obviously very skilled at it because she manages to completely change her face shape with make up.

If a woman wears makeup everyday then that is how she looks..
That's like saying someone is catfishing because they've dyed their natural hair and their partner hasn't seen the natural colour.

@notforonesecond

If some bloke thinks I’ve actually got sparkly eyelids that’s his own problem.

Now let’s talk about all the poor cows who are going to be stuck with fella’s with weak chins and pasty faces when beards go out of fashion.

Men have had beards for thousands of years, i don't see it going out of fashion anytime soon..

No.

I get what you mean OP. When I had my makeup done by a professional makeup artist for a wedding I honestly felt like I was wearing a Snapchat filter 😂 Honestly this woman was a genius and even though I wear makeup every day this was another level and I've never looked as good since. I've seen some crazy transformations with makeup and in a way I agree with you. If you want to see real makeup cat fishing look up Korean make up routines, they are crazy and they literally use tape and alter their face shape, watching them take it all off is fascinating.

I put it on a par with plastic surgery. A man falls in love with a woman (other gender couplings top of course!) Something biological in him attracts him as subconsciously he believes she will help him produce lovely children. However, it’s not her real face, so the kids that pop out don’t have the surgically changed features. It’s false advertising really!

@AnoDeLosMuertos

I put it on a par with plastic surgery. A man falls in love with a woman (other gender couplings top of course!) Something biological in him attracts him as subconsciously he believes she will help him produce lovely children. However, it’s not her real face, so the kids that pop out don’t have the surgically changed features. It’s false advertising really!

I assume youre in the wind up

@TheUndoingProject

My boyfriend shaves and puts product in his hair. How dare he trap me in this hideous web of deceit

Mine's bald and scruffy/raggedy.

And then he got a job where he needed nice shirts and tailoring, ordered a new pair of glasses online instead of contacts and started doing a little bit of exercise at home to help with back pain. Turns out he could give Stanley Tucci a run for his money.

I'd ask for a refund, but I'm treating this as a bit of a Brucie Bonus. Or maybe a Tucci Turnup?

@qwertykeyboards

Everyone is missing the point

Not really, although at a guess you seem confused about what catfishing means?

@emilyfrost I disagree completely. I'm perfectly happy in my own skin - bare faced or with make up. I love make up and wear it for me. Equally, if I feel like a bare faced day, I do that too - for me. I love my own face either way. 🙏

@LaBellina

I think many women don’t even like wearing makeup but society makes them believe they’re ugly and unkempt without it. I know that I feel embarrassed to go out without makeup, funnily I never felt that as a child so it’s something that comes natural to me. So I think it’s quite unfair to call wearing a lot of makeup a form of catphishing.

@LaBellina you're so right. Of all the harassment and shitty comments I've had from men (ranging from mildly annoying to severe), one of the times that really sticks out to me is on my 16th birthday on a school trip two boys followed me round all day saying how I might be attractive if I wore makeup, that I looked like a boy, that no one would fancy me the way I was, that it was lazy, that I looked so disgusting they wouldn't even want to fuck me. I felt so humiliated.

@Albatross26

As someone who wears absolutely no make up I'm genuinely interested- those saying you wear it for yourselves and nobody else, would you still wear it if you knew you weren't going to see another person for say 2 weeks? I promise I'm not being goady, it's just something I've never really understood!

Yes I do. I don't wear much but do eyebrow pencil, eyeliner and mascara minimum every day whether I'm seeing anyone or not. I like to like how I look when I catch sight of myself in a mirror. I look washed out without those things on.

As a man, in my opinion - makeup is not catfishing, and to any man who has ever met a woman should not consider it a lie

A man who calls a woman a liar for looking different without makeup is an idiot, a mysoginist or both

Makeup has existed far beyond recorded history, and aligns with nature. In the ‘mating game’ it performs the same function as the appearance of both females and males across nature by enhancing and/or highlighting features that make a mate desirable - in nature that typically means healthy, strong and able to provide for the next generation.

A man who can’t understand that a woman will look different first thing in the morning than her full makeup is an idiot

I don’t wear makeup, but still look like shit first thing and ‘improve’ in looks when I’ve freshened up and have been awake a while
I like to grow some stubble, and get a good fresh shaved feeling after a few days worth of stubble. ‘Going out’ I’ll wear slightly better clothes, shave and dare I say it - make myself smell better with at least antiperspirant. For a date I’ll make more effort and try to give the best impression of me

‘Lies’ everywhere !!!