‘D’H has announced that Covid doesn’t exist.

[OutOfLine]

Name changed for this.

One year since lockdown 1 began and DH has announced that Covid does not exist.

The illness is ‘no different to flu’, he is not having the vaccine because ‘he doesn’t need to’ and if he falls ill with any symptoms listed as Covid he will not be taking a test and will phone in sick with backache or some such nonsense.

AIBU to think WTF?
Apparently he has thought this all along and decided to let us know as he is sick of ‘having his freedom taken away from him’.

What started as a chat about weekly testing ended up with this.

I don’t know what to do with this information. All year (pre. weekly testing /vaccine rollout) he’s just gone along with it all.

So, along with AIBU to think he has lost his mind, WWYD or say in this situation?

@Giantrooster

https://twitter.com/dannagal/status/1347564138738946050

Hope this works. Otherwise

A similar approach I see which seems really counterintuitive. “Experts recommend focusing on building a connection, rather than trying to convince someone of your beliefs.”

I’d say he’s entitled to his own opinion. I think he’s wrong to say there is no virus, but if that’s what he thinks, then there’s probably no arguing with him. Just let him be.

Just writing everything down is quite cathartic!

Summary of points I’ve made about him:

He has complied with lock down.
He sees nobody other than work colleagues and us.
He doesn’t go in shops or use public transport. He doesn’t travel.
He hasn’t seen his family in over a year.

He doesn’t wear a mask because he has had operations on his nose and can only breathe through his mouth.

He will have blood taken but needles are an ordeal. Anxiety beforehand. He faints and needs longer appointments because of it.

Depression on and off over many years.
He has kept it in check for a long time.

So so many people have long covid and blood clotting issues, nothing like the fucking flu. I know it’s not your fight OP, sorry, I’ve just seen so many lives ruined with people who weren’t even admitted to hospital.

If it were my DH I don’t think I could get past this and would be asking him to leave, it’s not like disagreeing on politics.

I think its odd that you would consider leaving a preumably otherwise 'good' husband because of what essentially amounts to a difference of opinion.

He is complying with the rules despite his beliefs, he isn't endangering anybody with his actions.

You don't usually have free reign to police or veto your spouse's opinions. There must be a special dispensation for matters relating to Covid of which I am unaware.

So this "However, he doesn’t wear a mask because he has had operations on his nose and can only breathe through his mouth" together with the fear of injections suggests him to be both vulnerable and anxious, and not being able to go to the shops because you have to face the anger of those who fear you not wearing a mask sounds emasculating. That can be a very difficult thing to contemplate for anyone who is ageing and a man might feel worse about confronting what all of this means for him. Makes him easy prey for the Covid doesn't exist cultists.
I liked this article www.verywellmind.com/how-to-talk-to-a-covid-denier-5089630

I disagree with the lockdown approach that has been taken I think was wasn't proportional.

I support the anti lockdown protests - but I've not met anyone who thinks the actual virus isn't real.

You can disagree with the approach to it without being a conspiracy theorist.

The vaccine roll out is the only way out of the approach we have taken so makes sense to have it.

That being said Vaccines dont need a 100% uptake in order to be effective. medical procedures should not be forced on people.

Plenty of people believe crazy stuff op - the world is majority religious after all.

It seems very odd to me that he has not mentioned his thoughts on this to you before over the last year. Maybe he is trying to make himself believe this because he is struggling with lockdown rather than because it is what he really believes?

0.33% of the population have died if that helps

What an absolute bell end.

It's pig headed fuckers like him who'll drag this shit out for all of us.

Thank you Time
Yes. You may well be right.
This thread is helping me calm down. I need to listen to what isn’t being said...
(If you know what I mean)

@ktp100

What an absolute bell end.

It's pig headed fuckers like him who'll drag this shit out for all of us.

you are both wrong and offensive.

Of course it exists. And it does not justify the removal of all my freedoms and reason for living. Fuck this shit. And yet of course I follow all the stupid sodding rules in spite of myself.

I think the fact he has complied and is only just announcing this now perhaps points to how depressed he is at the situation and how scared he is that this might not actually end...

I dont agree with your husbands views but as we get nearer to lockdown easing I am becoming anxious that it will app happen again and quote frankly I dont know how I will cope if this isnt the beginning of our freedoms returning. I am not usually anxious and have coped pretty well this far with this whole situation.

If this is the first sign he has shown of this maybe he isnt coping and needs your support? Maybe this is his way of saying 'I'm done'.

@Woodpecker22

It seems very odd to me that he has not mentioned his thoughts on this to you before over the last year. Maybe he is trying to make himself believe this because he is struggling with lockdown rather than because it is what he really believes?

It came out of the blue. It’s unbelievable really.

I think that your Husband, and people like him, have a fear of the Covid virus, but talk themselves into this denying stage of mind,and if he joins ,and reads all the conspiracy brigades thoughts,he will be boosted by others,who think the same.

He must have seen all the awful scenes in hospitals all over the world, as in people on ventilators for weeks,or months, all very tragic to witness. He may well be so fearful of all these things, that he just blocks everything out. and stays in denial.. and makes up his own views about everything. But nothing is valid whatever he says.

If this is the first sign he has shown of this maybe he isnt coping and needs your support? Maybe this is his way of saying 'I'm done'
I coming round to this idea.

I can but him in tough with a friend of mine for a chat. Both parents contracted covid, both ended up in ITU. She buried her dad yesterday and her mum is now in a wheelchair ...

Sorry I think it’d be the end of my relationship, I couldn’t deal with that!

Very UN PC, but I'd tell him to stop being such a baby & get the bloody vaccine & to stop masking his fear with sheer stupidity. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I know many other sensible, rational, brilliant people who believe this. It's worrying.

@PerveenMistry you say: “ I would say good riddance. It's his ilk that I truly hope reap what they sow in terms of covid. ”

Are you wishing him illness and death?

Lots of people’s minds are affected by Covid, and lockdowns.

I think lockdowns are having a massive negative effect on people’s mental health. See your DH. See the poster who wishes him ill...

People are losing the plot left right and centre

NRTFT - but you say he's highly qualified academically. That's unbelievable. What sort of qualifications does he have? I honestly thought he must have very low educational attainments, which is fine, but if he's academically gifted then I would be looking into obtaining urgent mental health intervention for him because he's behaving very oddly and putting other people at risk with his sudden non compliance.

@PerveenMistry Justice??

Wow.