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If you're still sticking to ALL the rules/guidance - why?

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RaspberryCoulis · 27/03/2021 10:50

Will start by saying I am not sticking to the covid rules any more. Obviously I can't go places which aren't open. But we have had people in the house, kids are going out with friends probably in larger numbers than are permitted, we're crossing local authority boundaries which is supposedly illegal in Scotland. Why? Because we've been in lockdown for a year, cases here are very low, and some things are more important than Covid.

But on every thread there are people claiming that they are sticking rigidly to every single rule and guideline, never breaking ANY rule. They would probably say I was a selfish covid-denier who was hellbent on murdering their granny.

So if you're sticking to all the guidelines and rules, without fail - why? People who are clinically extremely vulnerable (officially) I can understand in part if they're not vaccinated. But the rest of you? Is it because you're scared of Covid, or scared of your neighbours, or scared of breaking the law by mistake?

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user1471539324 · 27/03/2021 13:36

@Alsohuman

I guess it depends how you define beaten. Previous pandemics are no longer out of control. We have beat them, though the illnesses mostly still exist. We can live alongside it without it overwhelming us and without living in continued restrictions. But we need people to comply until we reach a point where we have low transmission.

marabond · 27/03/2021 13:36

Because I have people I care about who can't have the vaccine despite being vulnerable & I'm not eligible for it yet either.

AtiaoftheJulii · 27/03/2021 13:38

[quote SpringTimeDream]@RichardMarxisinnocent

Indeed, I wish more would follow it they want to and let the rest of us do us where we adapt and amend some of the rules to suit our own circumstances.

The covid police appears still to be a thing. The tittle tattling, curtain twitching is so school bully stuff[/quote]
“I wish more would follow it they want to and let the rest of us do us where we adapt and amend some of the rules to suit our own circumstances.”

Yes, I expect that’s what the BMW driver yesterday repeatedly accelerating up my arse in a 30mph zone thinks too. He wanted to get somewhere and I was causing him an inconvenience. He was acting like a knob, and that’s how you’re coming across too I’m afraid.

Wakemeuuuup · 27/03/2021 13:38

Because I don't want to catch Covid and because I don't want to pass it on to someone.

I also want to do whatever I can to end the pandemic and have life resume. I'd like to see my family who are in a different country this year too

MiaChia · 27/03/2021 13:39

OP, you say 'all law breaking is equal'. Have you got special permission to break laws you don't like? Are there forms to fill in so that I can obtain the same permission? Please direct me to said forms because I'd really love to use the roads as a race track for my own personal pleasure. I might even indulge in a little high speed fly tipping as I go. Can't wait for my special being a twonk license to arrive. Have you had yours for long?

UserTwice · 27/03/2021 13:40

But why is it ok to break Covid laws but not any other type of law?

Is it ok for me to steal from Tesco because they are a big corporation and won't miss it? Is it ok for me to go and key the car that is annoyingly parked on the grass verge outside my house (legally but stupidly)? Is it ok for me to start hitting my DS just because he's being annoying? I can rationalise to myself that those things all make perfectly good sense and that the law is stupid. But society as a whole says "no". The issue with Covid rules is that enough people think they are not worth following, that people think it's ok to break them. It feels from that perspective a bit like drink driving laws. I'm old enough to remember a time when it was perfectly ok to go to the pub, have a few drinks and drive home and nobody really batted an eyelid. Nowadays we are all horrified that people thought that was sensible.

TalkToTheWind · 27/03/2021 13:40

All of my family have had at least one dose of the vaccine ... we are still following the rules.
In a whole year I have broken them once. That was to drive my elderly parents to my dad's sister's funeral. Dad is ill and mum has dementia.
I picked them up ( with masks) drove them there, sat in car ( too many were attending for me to be there) and drove them home. Didn't go in their house. Didn't hug them.
I felt guilty breaking the rules but mum and dad had already had their second jabs so we decided as a family to risk it.

I haven't seen my youngest daughter and my grandson for a year.

StrawberrySquash · 27/03/2021 13:42

Because there is a certain amount of contact that society as a whole can have before the thing gets out of control. That amount will vary over time. So it's the job of the government to state how much contact that is and its my job to stick to it. Yes, I get resentful occasionally about how little contact I have given my life circumstances, (WFH, no kids) but also those things have made me safer so I'm glad.

TL; DR we are a part of society and we have to work together.

Tooshytoshine · 27/03/2021 13:43

We have obeyed all the rules. We saw nobody at xmas and I haven't seen my family in months.

We are both key workers and my partner works in public health. We have up to date information, an in depth knowledge of why the restrictions are in place and how viruses are transmitted and mutate. My partner is a nationally recognized expert. If we circulate too quickly and rates go up again before we can contain variants that may be vaccine resistant then we are all completely f@#$ed.

We would have been out of this mess a lot earlier and a lot less people would have died, if people didn't think they were too clever or too special to follow the rules.

BlackbirdOtto · 27/03/2021 13:43

People breaking rules are:

Thick
Selfish and self absorbed.

If everyone broke the rules we would never get out of lockdown and there would be no hospital beds . Karma karma karma !

Xenia · 27/03/2021 13:43

I think I am sticking to them but I have been against the measures since March 2020. There are 5 lawyers in our family. We don't want to lose our careers. There is a kind of extra duty on lawyers not to break the law because of the potential professional conduct risk if you breach some laws. I have seen my grandchildren for 4 hours since Christmas 2019.

Also I don't think people should pick which laws to follow. Eg I just about never go over the speed limit in my car.

SnackSizeRaisin · 27/03/2021 13:44

Its a bit like people who speed.

Almost everyone speeds. 80% of drivers in 20 zones.

Breaking covid rules by seeing a close family member indoors or allowing your teenager to meet up with 2 friends is akin to doing 35 in a 30 zone.

Organising a rave for 5000 people is like doing 60 in a 30 zone.

Personally for both speeding and covid I am in the minor transgression category (along with virtually everyone else, except for most of those on this thread!)

For what it's worth I think there's a lot more justification for breaking covid rules than for speeding.

Jesscarbqueen87 · 27/03/2021 13:44

@Megan2018

Because I’m not a selfish twat. The rules are easy to follow and no big deal. It’s just a tiny bit of life to be mildly inconvenienced for the good of society.

For many it’s not a ‘tiny bit of life to be mildly inconvenienced for’ though is it?

mn81987 · 27/03/2021 13:44

Totally agree with you OP, I bet all those saying they've stuck to it have bent the rules slightly to suit them!
I'm back to doing what I want and having a lovely time!

Spodge · 27/03/2021 13:45

I've followed the law (not the guidance) to the letter so far, apart from one episode of stepping inside my parents' house to deliver their Christmas presents and have a quick chat. Whatever my opinion on the law, I am reluctant to break it.

That said, I am very likely to spend time inside my parents' house with them once the stay at home order is lifted. We are allowed to see people in gardens but if the weather is crap I am not going to deny them a visit. My mother is going stir crazy. Both my parents have had both sets of jabs and I have had my first. None of us go anywhere or have contact with other people to speak of. Shopping is delivered. I work from home.

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RaspberryCoulis · 27/03/2021 13:45

@MiaChia

The person who is a "twonk" is the one who thinks that someone who speeds or breaks Covid rules is just the same as a murderer.

In my opinion.

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PickAChew · 27/03/2021 13:45

My ds needs to be in school and I'd be a idiot to deliberately do anything to jeopardise that, either by taking risks with the family or by risking contributing to wider spread.

freddiethegreat · 27/03/2021 13:47

Because my CEV son has refused the vaccine & much as I think he’s a fool on this one, I don’t want to increase his risk!

DareIask · 27/03/2021 13:47

This thread has at least reassured me the sensible and responsible outnumber the idiots.

Thank god

user1471539324 · 27/03/2021 13:48

@RaspberryCoulis

There are many more businesses/workplaces open this time around though. Workplaces have adapted to be covid secure or adapted their business to allow them to operate e.g restaurants now having takeaway businesses or retail running click& collect.

I cannot do my job 100% remotely but during the first lockdown, I had to pause all my projects requiring me to be on site for a short time. Now this is long term, I’m having to do a blended working model since we could not press pause indefinitely. This is the same with a lot of my friends and colleagues.

Restrictions are slightly different. In Scotland we can travel within our local authority compared to last March where we were told not to travel at all. I’m hoping that the surge in traffic isn’t made up of people not following the rules.

Plates · 27/03/2021 13:48

yabu

HowManyToes · 27/03/2021 13:49

Because I’m not a dickhead who thinks I can pick and choose which laws apply to me.

yikesanotherbooboo · 27/03/2021 13:49

I follow them because I feel it is the right thing to do.
I come in contact with the vulnerable and elderly at work every day and would hate to be responsible for passing it on. I am actually finding it easier to follow rules now because I can see life opening up in the next few weeks and months eg I hope to see my young adult DC in the next few weeks and before too long to see my elderly mother in the flesh for the first since last summer. Every person has been affected by this and in that way we are all in it together.
I disagree that people don't only think of themselves , some do but many are amazingly generous, I see it every day.
Something that I really don't understand is , why you would let your DC mix out of school ? They are now socialising at school which is great but they have missed so much ; it seems illogical to increase their risk of breaking bubbles.

ItsMarch · 27/03/2021 13:49

Because I want my DC’s school to stay open.
Because I want to open my business again.
Because I don’t want my elderly parents to get COVID.
Because I want to go on holiday again.

I could go on but I won’t waste my time. Last year I was shocked at the number of people I knew personally who weren’t following the guidance. This year I’ve realised it’s to do with stupidity and arrogance. Neither of which are particularly easy to change.

therocinante · 27/03/2021 13:49

I don't want covid, I don't want to pass it to someone else unknowingly, and the more people that abide by the guidance and reduce contact the quicker we'll be able to go back to normal.

I think people who are "uSiNg ThEiR oWn jUdGeMeNt" are selfish and missing the point. You personally may not necessarily be at risk and good for you. But if half of the adults in the UK decide to brush off their imaginary virology degrees and use their own judgement, continued transmission (and mutation) happens and that's how we end up in this shit a lot longer.

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