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Sil is kicking off because I haven’t taken her child shopping

105 replies

Amberleaf12 · 20/03/2021 13:40

During Xmas I discussed with Sil what to buy her child for Xmas . I told her I didn’t want to buy her just anything because as she’s growing (9YO) she has a certain style and interests which I’m not familiar with.

Sil immediately said, please don’t buy her anything but take her shopping for something she wants.

Today SIL sent a message telling her brother (DH) how do you think my child feels ? Your wife has gone back on her promise.

There is a long history with SIL. Her self worth is based upon whether people around her give into her demands and do as they’re told and if your opinion differs then a war of words begins.

Your love for her is measured by whether you’re able to visit her often, but her gifts to make her feel loved and take her out to dinner. If you don’t do those things then she will pull you upon how much you don’t care about her.

I’ve always stood my ground but respectfully. I just won’t give in. I’ve never given in into anyone if their attitude is used as control and power over your life.

The simple answer to my SILs dilemma is, the shops aren’t over due to the global pandemic. Nothing more to it really.

I would buy said child something online but the original conversation was around taking the child out shopping. I’m happy to buy child something online now but then I could have just done that at Christmas. The reason I didn’t is because the child has her own style. Something I understand because I’m the same!!!! It’s so much easier to take her out and let her choose!

I explained this to DH and he agreed wholeheartedly without question. Whilst I’m not close to the child I do really enjoy her company. She’s wacky and cool and makes me laugh and DH can see this. She’s only kept at arms length because it’s not possible to have a relationship with her without SIL making demands and throwing tantrums.

I mentioned to DH it seems that our love for her daughter is now starting to be measured just like our love for her is being measured by what we do for her.

DH responded simply by saying it will happen soon but he didn’t say anything about it being because shops aren’t open which is slightly annoying but I can forgive him for failing to mention that. He tries to remain neutral as much as possible as I do.
Also if we explained the reason he said no doubt she’s so emotionally unstable right now she’ll find another reason to be angry and it’ll just spiral out and become a slanging match.

It’s been almost a year now where we’ve learnt to listen and not put her right factually because it ends up with dragging the past up about how she feels about how we treated her . And by that I mean not giving into her demands.

I feel a bit frustrated. I know not to say anything. The less we say the less longer her anger will last. The more we say the longer her anger will last.

The last time I saw the child we were laughing and joking and being dorky. It’s just so fun.

I really despise the fact that SIL holds onto every little thing we do or don’t do.

It’s upset me a little and I’ve had a cry. But I’m okay now. I just feel anxious again.

OP posts:
StillCoughingandLaughing · 20/03/2021 15:07

@HeyDemonsItsYaGirl

I tried to make it as anonymous as possible re gender

Why? Confused

Presumably for the same reason most people try to anonymise some details on MN?

Why do some people have to pick everything on a thread to bits? “Why are you referring to her as ‘the child’? Why did you try to avoid mentioning her gender? Why did you phrase it ‘take her shopping’ instead of ‘take her out to buy her a present’? Why did you go out carrying a handbag that you matched to your tights and not your dress that time in 2003?”

NormanStangerson · 20/03/2021 15:12

Re: the poster saying OP sounds like hard work (she doesn’t)....

People who trot out these typical MN rudeisms (I just made that up, I can’t think of a better word; trope is overused) without paying any heed to the actual situation, seem like catty new girls just trying to fit in. But they just look like unpleasant wallies.

theDudesmummy · 20/03/2021 15:13

"Not a blood relative"? What has that got to do with anything? It is still her neice. Does the pp who wrote that never give presents to anyone who is not a "blood relative"? How odd!

HollowTalk · 20/03/2021 15:14

But you knew at Christmas that lockdown was going to happen. Why didn't you give your niece some money so that she could look around online?

HollowTalk · 20/03/2021 15:14

Just out of interest, what does your SIL do when it's your birthday?

Nith · 20/03/2021 15:15

@Babyboomtastic

Then her age, why didn't you give the child a choice to choose something or wait until the shops open again.

You sound a bit hard work tbh.

How on earth do you make out that sticking to her agreement makes OP "hard work", @Babyboomtastic? These simplistic MNisms applied without any thought are seriously irritating.
MintyMabel · 20/03/2021 15:16

To be honest I do think that you should have bought something by now, it's been 3 months since Christmas and that is a life time to a 9 year old!

What nonsense. Kids are not idiots and a 9 year old should be quite able to accept there will be a gift coming in the future. I’m sure she doesn’t spend every day dwelling on the fact her relatives haven’t got her a gift. Christmas 2019 when DD was ten, my sister got her an experience type gift, which we were going to do together in the spring. Obviously that didn’t happen and we still haven’t been able to do it. We’re looking forward to it as a post lockdown treat. DD bears no resentment for the fact we haven’t been able to do it. There isn’t a gift shaped hole in her life that she just can’t fill.

SIL sounds like hard work. I wouldn’t be avoiding explaining myself for fear of the response, I’d just tell her how it is and refuse to be drawn further.

Feedingthebirds1 · 20/03/2021 15:16

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

Tell SIL and your husband that you're passing gift buying duties to him as it looks like he'll make a better job of it.
In some circumstances that's appropriate, but in this case it sounds like OP and niece are both looking forward to the trip.
Nith · 20/03/2021 15:16

@HollowTalk

But you knew at Christmas that lockdown was going to happen. Why didn't you give your niece some money so that she could look around online?
We didn't know when. Maybe she knows her niece and knows that she would enjoy going round the shops with her?
Number3BigCupOfTea · 20/03/2021 15:17

what gets in to people. No matter what was given to my children, clothes too small, things they would never wear, books they didn't read, I just said ''thank you for thinking of them!''
I didn't always make them write thank you letters but fgs, nobody owes your children a present, or a pile of presents!!

I can't believe how entitled some people are and you have my sympathies OP!

BruceAndNosh · 20/03/2021 15:19

Not a great choice of places to "go shopping" at the moment unless your 9 year old niece loves B&Q

Woodlandbelle · 20/03/2021 15:22

100 percent don't get into this situation again. Money in a card. Job done. Take child out for a hot chocolate or something but don't get drawn into drama. If it's dh niece let him deal with the whole situation.

thenightsky · 20/03/2021 15:28

Not sure what the SiL actually expects you to do tbh.

You can't have a shopping trip to closed shops.

You can't send a gift as SiL will bin it.

So what does she think you should do? Confused

SarahBellam · 20/03/2021 15:31

I just wouldn’t respond. Just let her keep blowing. She’ll blow herself out eventually. You have nothing to answer for and you haven’t done anything wrong. All she is doing is attention seeking. She absolutely knows the shops are shut and it’s moronic that she thinks she can bully you into taking your niece shopping at the moment. It doesn’t even make sense. Just mute. When the shops open get in touch and arrange a date with the niece.

PandaFluff · 20/03/2021 15:33

Ask which shop is open that you can take her to?

Tablegs · 20/03/2021 15:33

I still haven't bought my own dd her Xmas present, or her 21st birthday present come to think of it. She's going to be 22 quite soon.

We are looking forward to being able to shop till we drop - although I think it is going to cost me quite a lot!

eggsandwich · 20/03/2021 15:37

I would get your dh to deal with all the gift giving then she can bitch to him about it

suggestionsplease1 · 20/03/2021 15:42

I disagree with a lot of these approaches. To my mind it's the niece's present, it's about her, presumably her mum is expressing something that the niece is feeling so get on with it and just send her a present, or the cash or whatever. Double check what is hoped for, obviously you can't agree to anything that is not possible due to restrictions, but find out what is hoped for and just send it - it's really not about you. And it gives an impression that something is being held over....that's not really the spirit of gift giving.

In the larger context does the niece have brothers and sisters or cousins that did receive gifts from you on time? That exacerbates a sense of well, why am I not getting a gift?

Pandoraslastchance · 20/03/2021 15:43

My 8 and 6 yo understand that shops are shut and their auntie(my sister) cannot come over due to covid. The solution is that Auntie will visit when allowed and will bring the late birthday and Christmas presents with her.

Your sil sounds like a twat. Send your niece a snail mail card saying that you cannot wait to go shopping with her when it is safe to do so.

PanamaPattie · 20/03/2021 15:45

Has anyone mentioned that the shops are shut?

ShellieEllie · 20/03/2021 15:47

I would not engage any further with SIL about this, just contact her once lockdown is over to arrange a date to take niece out.

theDudesmummy · 20/03/2021 15:54

Another one saying "it's DH's neice" Confused . She is the OP's neice too. That's how aunties and uncles work...

theDudesmummy · 20/03/2021 15:54

Sorry for incorrect spelling of niece! One of my perpetual spelling mistake words!

Magicpaintbrush · 20/03/2021 15:56

I couldn't tolerate this from someone so bloody rude and grabby, not to mention stupid. If the shops are shut where does she expect you take her daughter shopping exactly? She's obviously living on a different planet to the rest of us. So because the shops being shut doesn't is too inconvenient to acknowledge she's just acting like that issue doesn't exist? Your options are currently to take her to a supermarket for clothes, or Boots the Chemist for some hair clips. That's about it.

Viviennemary · 20/03/2021 15:58

When you knew the shops were going yo be closed for this length of time why did you get her something online. Its 3 months since Christmas.