Girl in isolation as school changed rules and shops not open.

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I've always been hot on my ds following schools rules with uniform despite me thinking some are often extreme.

I actually think this one is extreme but regardless AIBU to think in this case as they changed rules in February and the shops to get the uniform rule adhered to don't actually open bu government law until April it's horrendous to use isolation as a punishment (especially after lockdown) until the issue can be solved?

I don’t agree with it. They are punishing a child for something that is out of her control.

There seems to be a pattern either from a new headteacher or when a new academy trust takes over to focus on uniform to extremes. Almost as if nothing else can be done for a while to improve a school.

I think that's over the top. She has agreed to remove them as soon as the shop opens and she has agreed to cover them with plasters until then. Overly controlling and not in the pupils best interest imo. After all the time they have had isolated at home and all the education and socialisation they have missed to create such a big deal over this is too harsh. Give her a break. No common sense, just applying blanket rules because they can.

It's just non sensical

Mainly because I cannot see how jewellery stops learning but also because it's not exactly the child's fault she can't do anything about it.

I was hoping schools would be lax on uniform until September as I'm sure lots of parents can't get some items until April, hair cuts can't be done, and most importantly many people have had financial hits and it's not the important part right now of school.

So much for recovery curriculum and focussing on mental health and curriculum catch up

I’m dreading this when my son starts high school - I don’t have the energy to deal with these officious idiots.

Why do they think it matters?

I work in an independent school which sends children to some of the top schools in the country - we have teachers wearing trainers, DMs, sparkly shoes, leggings, nose studs.

It’s just nonsense.

Ridiculous! It doesn't effect how the students learn. This happens every year, new headteacher or academy who put their foot down. So glad my sons school has no uniform, the students are more relaxed, they are well behaved and they learn - so not having a strict uniform doesn't suddenly change a students behaviour.

This kind of stuff really annoys me. In what world do piercings stop learning? Oh, that's right! The one where you get punished and sent to isolation. They're hindering this girls education by doing this.

I cannot for the life of me understand why schools think that children should be held to a higher standard than 95% of the working population. I have never seen an adult be fired for such a small thing. I would never even notice an adult wearing such a small stud in their ear.

It's no wonder kids are stressed about their appearance when they think everyone can see every little detail AND cares enough to punish them for any indiscretion. This girl has been inside for a year, can we not just chill out a little?

How utterly pathetic. Given the state of everyone's hair and the fact most won't have shoes etc that fit, an earring is the least of their worries.

School need to get over themselves

Strong totally agree.

6 secondaries near me and the 2 who have relaxed uniform of polo and v neck sweatshirt (as opposed to blazer tie and set skirt) have the highest results year on year.

Amazing that when the focus is on teaching and learning and not image how the education is better eh?!

The school's response is a massive overreaction but what studs are "impossible" to remove at home?

Why does she need to wait until piercing shops open to remove earrings?

The ones that have the ball screwed on. They can be done really really tight and hard to remove. Also the BCRs.

3 midwives couldn't get my bar undone when I was trying to breast feed. My first trip out was to a tattoo shop just a few shirt hours after having a baby 🤣

Can be harder than u think

If I was her mum I'd not be sending her to school to be treated like that FULL STOP. I'd also be consulting a solicitor regarding the schools inhumane treatment of my daughter.

Usually I would be the first to back the schools up but this is ridiculous especially after the long period of distance learning they've all endured.

Clearly this school cares more about uniform standards than mental health. Nasty.

My DD got a part of her ear pierced in 2018 summer holiday's with the expectation that she would remove the piercing for school, unfortunatly she got a reaction which made skin over grow over the back of the piercing and she was unable to remove the stud. When she returned to school, unknown to me, she was placed in isolation. After a couple of days she broke down and told me what was the problem, my initial comment was well you choose to have the piercing but when she explained the problem I made a GP appointment and emailed the school stating that the piercing was impossible to remove but we were seeking medical advise. The following day she still spent the day in isolation and after school her head of year contacted me, I explained that we had a doctors appointment and I would email with their advice. Following the doctors appointment steriod cream and a further appointment in a couple of weeks time was made, I updated the school. The following day DD was distraught as she was told by the HOY that until the earring was removed she would stay in complete isolation (approx until half term) I then left a number of messages for the HOY as the situation was getting out of hand, eventually I recieved a call from one of the pastoral team who clarified that DD was not being difficult but was physically unable to remove the earring. DD wore a plaster and kept her mouth closed about the piercing until it could be removed.

The stress that DD was put through was unbelievable

@Hopeandglory I really do wonder where decency towards kids got left behind

Our high school went back this week, they sent an email saying no uniforms needed, please dress respectfully. Good job too, I bought Dd new trousers last time they went back, by guessing her size and mail order. I really didn't want to get another lot.
Punishing a child because the stores a closed is just ridiculous.

It does seem a bit OTT given that the child genuinely can't do anything about them and has offered to cover them etc. However, knowing the school's policy, why did she get them done in the first place?

I don't understand why they can't take them out themselves. Seems like the mum is creating the drama then moaning to the papers because her daughter isn't exempt from the school rules.

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If you look at one of the pictures ut has a flat back which probably means the front un screws. If they are put on tightly they can he extremely difficult to remove. You don't have alot of space to work with.

@stuckinarutatwork

It does seem a bit OTT given that the child genuinely can't do anything about them and has offered to cover them etc. However, knowing the school's policy, why did she get them done in the first place?

It’s implied that the policy was changed after she had the piercings done. In fact, that must be the case because it says the policy changed in February, when piercing shops would have been closed due to lockdown.

Such a massive waste of time and really unnecessary given the amount of school already missed. I used to teach and agree with having high expectations of good behaviour, but I think refusing to to be flexible on issues like this is very damaging to the relationship between the leadership and the pupils. A school should be a place where children are nurtured and supported. This is unnecessarily combative.

So yet another way that the public putting up with and adhering to lockdowns are being shat on.

If it were me my MP would be getting a call.

I strongly suspect the school is breaking the law itself. This child is entitled to full time education and the full national curriculum. That does not mean sitting in a room on her own and doing worksheets. That doesn't seem to me to be a school that is setting the best example to its pupils.

The mother really needs to talk to an Education Law specialist solicitor - I hope she does.

@DanielRicciardosSmile

Why does she need to wait until piercing shops open to remove earrings?

From the picture it looks like cartilage piercings with the ball joint.

The mum says they need special tools to be removed.

I'm surprised they are such an issue with her hair down anyway!

Or even an issue! We were always one earring per ear in my strict secondary school back in the 90's.

Hope and glory I'm so sorry. How awful for your dd. It's an awful message for our kids that's when you are trying to do the right thing you still get punished.

@stuckinarutatwork

It does seem a bit OTT given that the child genuinely can't do anything about them and has offered to cover them etc. However, knowing the school's policy, why did she get them done in the first place?

The policy changed in February.