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Girl in isolation as school changed rules and shops not open.

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itsgettingwierd · 16/03/2021 21:21

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I've always been hot on my ds following schools rules with uniform despite me thinking some are often extreme.

I actually think this one is extreme but regardless AIBU to think in this case as they changed rules in February and the shops to get the uniform rule adhered to don't actually open bu government law until April it's horrendous to use isolation as a punishment (especially after lockdown) until the issue can be solved?

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itsgettingwierd · 17/03/2021 20:31

https://bradford.trinitymat.org

Just googled the school.
Trust took over 1/2/2021.

Also very interesting comments about great pastoral care Hmm

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NeverDropYourMoonCup · 17/03/2021 21:46

@Whatwouldscullydo

And if she's not confident in removing it?

Drs wouldn't touch mine when I was having dd2. I took out what I could but there were a few they wouldn't touch. I certainly wouldn't be confident in removing them myself.

It's easy. They just twist off/unscrew. You don't have to be confident, you just have to need to do it. Which she does.

No specialist tools, no magical abilities required. Just a pair of latex gloves (for the grip) and get on with it.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 17/03/2021 21:50

There is also the aspect that, as a beauty therapist, she's likely more than capable of applying hot wax to bikini areas without causing injury, inserting electrolysis needles, applying lash extensions, possibly operating electric files for nails and, more specifically, doing crappy gun piercings on other people. There is nothing that suggests she's anything other than unwilling to unscrew a labret.

PembrokeshireDreaming · 17/03/2021 21:55

My daughter is year 11, her school have opted for a common-sense approach regarding uniform. This is yet another example of a crazy head on a power trip!!! I usually take "sad face" stories with a pinch of salt but this is crazy, they should have allowed her to cover the studs with plasters.

Dilemma8188 · 17/03/2021 22:00

I'm utterly appalled that isolation is even a thing. I didn't go through the UK education system and am keen to leave the country just so my daughter avoids it as well. I've heard all sorts of horror stories about how unregulated it is and schools are just bought up by these academies but that's on another level.

Dutchesss · 17/03/2021 22:03

You have to wonder what sort of person would notice a small stud on an ear and choose to isolate a child rather than turn a blind eye. Seems like a power trip.

CovidBored · 17/03/2021 22:05

They have not introduced a new uniform policy (yet), they are just enforcing the existing one, which wasn’t done by the previous trust.

Hopeandglory · 17/03/2021 23:46

I posted earlier in the thread but another thing that has bugged me is that when I enrolled my DD with the school it was not super zealous regarding uniform, when my DD started there was a new head who has made his mark within the school, the girls now have to wear a particular type of black cotton kilt that avaliable from the school outfitters but you can wear similar as long as it is the same. I purchased a M&S black kilt (cotton) but that was not acceptable because it was not from the prefered suppliers, the prefered suppliers did not have her size in stock but that was irrelevent I was in the wrong and unless I magiced up the preferred skirt she would go in to isolation. I agree that schools should have rules and consequeses but I did not enroll my child into a school
with such narrow margins of behaviour as I ended up with. My DD is not an angel but her MH has struggled with the petty rules that have penalised her school career, she has always had positive feedback from her lesson tutors but is on first name terms with the members of the SALT team at school as she has spent so much time with them. The use of sanctions to peonalise small misdemeeners seem to have misfired as students feel happier whilst in isolation. One more incedent springs to mind, during a very bad time DD was seeing a juvenile mental health practioner off site following a very low time and her (fantastic) pastoral care teacher had just finished chatting to her following her appointment when she walked out of the year office without wearing her blazer and was instantly given a detention by a passing teacher for carrying rather than wearing her blazer. Although the detention was waivered the lack of communication stumped me, a child that had issues bad enough to provoke her walking out of school due to MH problems was not discussed with all of the teachers who came in to contact with her due to personal data issues was a disaster waiting to happen.

sashh · 18/03/2021 03:55

You mean make a non.essential journey to a salon?

No I mean mum go online, spend £5 and remove the earing at home.

As for, 'changing the rules' sometimes schools haven't thought of a situation until something happens.

My school didn't have rules on hair colour but if I turned up with blue hair they would have made one.

MessAllOver · 18/03/2021 06:14

I am all for children following the rules and looking smartly turned out but this is overkill. I'm fairly sure that at my very conservative girls school 15 years ago, we were allowed plain stud earrings.

itsgettingwierd · 18/03/2021 06:53

@Hopeandglory

I posted earlier in the thread but another thing that has bugged me is that when I enrolled my DD with the school it was not super zealous regarding uniform, when my DD started there was a new head who has made his mark within the school, the girls now have to wear a particular type of black cotton kilt that avaliable from the school outfitters but you can wear similar as long as it is the same. I purchased a M&S black kilt (cotton) but that was not acceptable because it was not from the prefered suppliers, the prefered suppliers did not have her size in stock but that was irrelevent I was in the wrong and unless I magiced up the preferred skirt she would go in to isolation. I agree that schools should have rules and consequeses but I did not enroll my child into a school with such narrow margins of behaviour as I ended up with. My DD is not an angel but her MH has struggled with the petty rules that have penalised her school career, she has always had positive feedback from her lesson tutors but is on first name terms with the members of the SALT team at school as she has spent so much time with them. The use of sanctions to peonalise small misdemeeners seem to have misfired as students feel happier whilst in isolation. One more incedent springs to mind, during a very bad time DD was seeing a juvenile mental health practioner off site following a very low time and her (fantastic) pastoral care teacher had just finished chatting to her following her appointment when she walked out of the year office without wearing her blazer and was instantly given a detention by a passing teacher for carrying rather than wearing her blazer. Although the detention was waivered the lack of communication stumped me, a child that had issues bad enough to provoke her walking out of school due to MH problems was not discussed with all of the teachers who came in to contact with her due to personal data issues was a disaster waiting to happen.
This is what is starting to worry me.

More and more we have these academy schools and each time we hear how autocratic they are becoming (2 cropped up near me in past 10 years)

They are like military camps for our young people who we are meant to be shaping as adults for the future with critical thinking skills but instead it's about raising people who follow a whole set of arbitrary rules which actually are just rules for the sake of it.

Mh ds ended up leaving out local school which became an academy after we signed him up due to MH problems and moved to a state comp far less fussy about evenly detail of uniform (they had rules but they weren't as strict) and the school out performs the academy year on year. Which has ironically got worse than a bad school.

I wonder at which point it'll become apparent controlling kids every move doesn't get results. It's not how to engage them.

I've been working for 23 years and I've never once had a workplace with such strict expectations and who have had so much control over anything I do - and I've spent all of it working within field of childcare and education!

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Nith · 18/03/2021 07:32

The use of isolation really needs to be sorted out. It sounds like this school could certainly be vulnerable to legal challenge. I believe that the school in a previous case was made to revise its practices - schoolsweek.co.uk/outwood-grange-academies-trust-faces-legal-challenge-over-isolation-booths/

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