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To find this fucking laughable and want to comment?

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PrettyLit · 14/03/2021 23:07

My ex has made a statement on social media that is being shared about the current goings on surrounding the Sarah Everard case and basically calling out male violence toward women and talking about how men have the responsibility to educate other men etc etc...

Great you may think?

Except no. This fucking hypocrite abused me for years. Emotionally and physically. He is the most violent and aggressive 'man' I've ever been with and made me fear for my safety on many occasions. I have been irreparably scarred by this person.

I am so angry at the sheer hypocrisy of it and to see people commenting and sharing and fucking thanking him for being a 'good guy'.

I want to comment. I probably won't but my God I want to.

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Sobeyondthehills · 15/03/2021 00:24

I would share it, with my own line of if you are sharing this, you are sharing it from someone that abuses women.

Although I am really fucking petty, as an ex of mine did something similar and I called him an emotional abusive prick. So you might not want to listen to me

DifficultBloodyWoman · 15/03/2021 00:24

I completely understand being torn between wanting to post and not.

A couple of suggestions, depending on how angry you feel about it right now.

  1. Write down exactly how you would like to respond to him right now. But don’t send it to him or post it. Email your best friend or DH or mum or whomever you can trust. Ask them whether or not you should post it in 24 hours time. If they say yes, wait another 24 hours and make up your own mind.
  1. Draft a (possibly passive aggressive) post of your own which says something along the lines of...at first I was heartened to see that men were responding and standing up for women. But then I saw a post by man who (did x,y,z). His neighbours called the police because they thought he was going to kill his wife/girlfriend. After reading that man’s post, I feel.....

If you feel safe to do so, feel free to post option 2 straight way. Don’t mention his name.

hippychick11 · 15/03/2021 00:30

I have an ex exactly like this who does the same thing. He is the epitome of charm on social media and in the community and a total bully behind closed doors. He abused me for 2 years and constantly campaigns for women's rights and has 'Kindness is my religion' as his Facebook cover photo
I have noticed that men like this often seem to shout the loudest when it comes to things like this, almost like they feel they have to prove a point

Twistered · 15/03/2021 00:33

Do whatever the fuck you absolutely feel like doing . You owe that fuckwit nothing.
Women are being duped to think he's an ally when he's an abuser. No woman should feel like they can't call abusers out on this. The days of putting up with this fucking shit and being a good girl and not rocking the boat are over.
The more times men are called out for being abusers the more eventually they will get the fucking message .... We are not here for you to fucking abuse.

Sorry for all the fucking but I'm so so fucking angry on your behalf op.

Willyoujustbequiet · 15/03/2021 00:47

I'd respond

Part of the reason they get away with it is that no one calls them out on it.

Speak your truth.

itwaseverthus · 15/03/2021 01:52

People are hypocrits. My ex called out Trump for being a liar on twatter, blissfully unaware he lied for three solid years to me.

timeisnotaline · 15/03/2021 01:55

I like difficultbloodywoman’s approach.

fuckityfuckitffs · 15/03/2021 03:35

I would share it. Why should you keep quiet? I would say something along the lines of what you've said. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, many women are with men who outwardly appear like 'nice guys' and we need to be careful of men like this.

everythingbackbutyou · 15/03/2021 03:40

@PrettyLit, I get it. My ex just stopped short of being physical, although he was certainly starting to 'experiment' with aggressive body language. The emotional abuse has, as you said, changed me forever, and very few people know the truth about the relationship. I have kept my mouth shut so many times and it is HARD to stomach the hypocrisy and the public persona that everyone sees as a great guy.

PrettyLit · 15/03/2021 05:21

Thing is with him is he is in so much denial about himself. There was always an excuse, mental illness was his favourite one. He only did this stuff because he was sick and I should make more effort to help him with his MH so he didn't do these things etc...

I genuinely can picture him believing that because he's never abducted and killed a woman the he's alright. Or so long as I never had black eyes then he was fine (the physical stuff was things like pinning against walls, pushing, grabbing my face etc...) He liked more to use the threat of violence to keep me in line. You know the drill, punching things, throwing hard objects in my direction, pulling doors off their hinges, raised fists in my face and so on.

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feelingdizzy · 15/03/2021 05:51

I have an abusive exh who would do something like this. Until recently I would have said say nothing but why even with our abusers do we need to be nice. We are supposed to down play their abuse so they and others don't feel bad ! I have a great life but what he did left scars on me and our children . I know there is reclaim the night I want reclaim our life !!

everythingbackbutyou · 15/03/2021 07:53

@PrettyLit, I don't know if you've heard of the murderer Chris Watts, but when I was discussing him with my ex one time he said something along the lines of "Well, killing your partner in the heat of the moment, I get it, but killing your OWN CHILDREN" (subtext being of course "I'm not a bad person, I know where the acceptable limits are..."). I was already well on the road to leaving at that point, and I am all too familiar with the stats about the most dangerous time for an abused woman being when she tries to get out. So that was reassuring...

valadon68 · 15/03/2021 08:28

My friend's ex sexually assaulted her and was then elected to his JCR on a saintly pro-feminism platform. Men hitch a ride on feminism, in more ways than one.

Sorry OP, I can see how incredibly provocative and galling it must be.

Pipepans · 15/03/2021 08:44

Bear in mind this charmer is posting such fake drivel because he knows he is wrong, and knows he is a liar. Sadly it's very, very common. They have to keep up a facade, as their biggest fear is being found out. Leopards do not change their spots, and it does happen that these kind of people are seen through eventually.

It's actually very difficult to keep up a pretence all the time, eventually the mask slips.
You might take some comfort, as irritating as it is that you are aware of his hypocrisy, that he will be the one living with that constant niggle in the back of his mind that he will be found out. Will take it's toll on him emotionally much more than you.
I get how utterly annoying it must be.

Tal45 · 15/03/2021 08:48

He's delusional to the extent he probably actually believes it, nothing is his fault, he's an amazing guy.......narcissist.

Perlea · 15/03/2021 08:57

Unfortunately I think this is actually common. If so many women have experienced harassment and violence then it only works our that MANY men (yes not all but very many) are doing it. I think they compartmentalise the people in their life as targets and not targets and like to act innocent of course publicly, but they have no problem abusing women or any other group they want to victimise when it's convenient for then and easy to hide. I have known a few people, all men, to actually do this.

SportsBlah · 15/03/2021 09:00

My abusive ex put something on fb a few weeks ago about Asian men abusing English girls, I had to quickly walk away from my phone.

Gerla · 15/03/2021 09:02

There a lot of men like this unfortunately! See also:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4191692-Chris-Hemmings
Two women have called him out on it. Im not saying you need to do this though - do what's best for you.

Chimoia · 15/03/2021 09:03

Look up Chris Hemmings twitter, some of his exes have posted responses to his tweets about this.

CareBear50 · 15/03/2021 09:06

I think he posts stuff like this to make himself feel better!

Reminiscent of people who posted "be kind" on social media. From my experience, most people who posted that were totally deluded and were actually really quite horrible to others in real life.

Ignore him OP. You will drive yourself crazy. Just be glad you got away 💗💗💗

HoldontoOneMoreDay · 15/03/2021 09:14

Feminist in the tweets, misogynist in the streets is actually genius.

I think this is massively common. I'm on the main Reclaim the Streets facebook page and more or less every second post is cookie-hunting men who get vair snippy when it's politely suggested they do a little tiny bit of the work themselves. Even worse when it's a mum posting about what their 23 year old son should do to help, the handmaidening is unreal. All this among posts of women sharing their trauma.

Sorry this has happened to you OP, it must be enraging.

Nith · 15/03/2021 09:20

Send a link to a DV support charity and invite him to put his money where his mouth is.

Forgothowmuchlhatehomeschoolin · 15/03/2021 09:30

Oh gosh l remember someone who used to make my life an absolute misery post something on fb once and it took every fibre of my being to not retaliate. But it would have made me look like the bad guy so l just unfriended and blocked him instead .

PrettyLit · 15/03/2021 09:47

I've written out the message I'd love to send. I won't I don't think but I'd love to.

Knowing him the way I do, I know this would get to him. Because it's 'polite' and doesn't give him any way of saying LOOK HOW NASTY SHE IS. It attacks, in a none abusive way, what he believes about himself.

And I actually do think he'd be upset by it. Not because he's a decent person. But because it questions the image he has of himself and he'd have to live knowing that people see him this way.

Someone mentioned narcissist upthread and I know it gets thrown around a lot but I do genuinely suspect there are elements of NPD within him. His image is all that matters and this attacks that which will get to him, I know it would.

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PrettyLit · 15/03/2021 09:53

Hello,

I have recently seen a post of yours shared on Facebook which talks about educating men in respect of the violence, and fear many women experience at their hands.

I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your call for education on this subject is genuine and, I would assume, also applies to yourself? And I hope that you may be open to receiving said education from a woman.

A woman who knew you well and for a long time, and a woman who regularly feared for her safety at your hands, who cried to her family and friends about the emotional abuse she suffered during her relationship with you and who begged them not to say anything to you in case it made the situation worse for her. A woman who's confidence and sense of self was so shattered when you'd finished with her that she was unrecognisable to those who knew her best. A woman who was scared of saying the wrong thing to you at any given time and the reaction it would produce, and who's home was full of holes from your fists, who's doors were torn from their hinges and who's walls were left marked by the objects thrown at her head. A woman who was pinned against walls and had her space invaded by you in moments of such utter rage that she felt the fear of death in those moments. A woman who has been irreparably damaged by the emotional turmoil she was subjected to by you daily and as a woman who still suffers nightmares about you where she wakes up sweating and crying and needing to be consoled by her husband and reminding that she is safe and not back there in her old life.As a woman who lived with and still lives with that, because of you.

As that woman, I wanted to say that I can only assume and hope that you now understand how despicably you treated me and how wrong you were. I can only assume you must be eternally sorry for what you put me through.

Because to post something otherwise so hypocritical, how can you not? How can you look at yourself in the mirror after making such a statement and not realise that you are one of the men who requires the education you speak so valiantly of.

And if not, then I can only hope that this message has in some way helped to educate you as to the fact that you are part of the problem you apparently wish to change, that intimidation and threatening violence by your aggressive actions is still violence, it is still not acceptable to make women fear you in order to gain compliance from them. Bruises, broken bones and death are not the line in the sand that you think they are. You crossed it many times.

And if this message does help to educate you about a subject you are apparently so concerned about, then maybe I may begin to let go of the weight of your abuse that I have had to carry with me since the day I left you.

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