Gotten

[Catlover77]

AIBU to want to scream ‘it is not a word’ every time I read it on here? I have just read four threads with it in. All four people cannot possibly be American!

Like much American English, it used to be part of common British English usage. It's arguably correct. Or, not incorrect.

It’s Old English and was retained by American settlers from England. It’s originally English.

Hate it. Yes, we all know it used to be part of American English at one and is supposedly grammatically correct (as it got) when used in the past tense. But it fell out of use along with many quaint Americanisms, but some people think they're all trendy if they use it and argue for how wonderful it is.

Should we also start using verbs as adjectives, such as "tan" and "I'm chill" as well?

It's not American though.

It’s Old English and was retained by American settlers from England. It’s originally English.

True dat. I personally still don’t like it much either!

I loathe it. It's completely unnecessary. I instantly stop reading threads if I come across it.

Agree.
I also hate likely as in we'll likely be eating chips for tea.
We are likely to be eating chips for tea or it is likely we'll have chips for tea, that's fine.
Maybe that one's just me though.

Oh ffs this again? It's commonly used in Scotland and probably other parts of the uk.

Yes. Don’t like it either but it is what it is. My son spoke about his closet and I’m afraid I was close to murder. It’s a fucking wardrobe but has origins in the old French meaning of enclosed space.

It's used in OZ and NZ too - my most felicitously antipodean apologies. We must have all gotten carried away.

Now. Let's have a stern word about "whilst" and "amongst". You can't all be 16th century bards!

It may be old English. But so are fall, eyeglasses, muss, & chore (from charwoman). And those have largely fallen out of common usage in the British English tongue.

Apparently, it was in common use in Britain in the 18th century but what has suddenly triggered its re-emergence over the last couple of years?

It was good enough for Shakespeare

Don't get me started on this. It gives me the rage

I've gotten used to it now

Amazingly people in different parts of the UK speak with different dialects.

Some may even use gotten.

As others have said gotten is not an Americanism, it's Old English.

It's the same grammatical rule as forgot/ forgotten.

There is a slight distinction between got (I have one) and gotten ( I have gone and picked one up) and that alone makes it useful.

Don’t care if it’s old English or what it is, I hate it

also common in Canada, Scotland, NZ, Australia, etc - not everyone who uses it is American. And yes, lots of posters here who have spent time or grown up in other parts of the world. Why judge something so trivial? It's more logical that 'got', really. You use it in exactly the same way as forget, forgot, forgotten.

I hate it, too.

YABVU.

It's a valid word. It's in common use in the UK (although not everywhere).

It has been used in my corner of the country all my life (and longer), and I'm nearly half a century old.

Do you have the same issue with 'forgotten'? I'm assuming not, because it is commonly used where you live. Gotten is commonly used where I live. What's the difference?

I also hate likely as in we'll likely be eating chips for tea.

These threads appear with such regularity on MN, you'd think no-one understood the concept of regional variations.

The above phrase for example is extremely commonly used in certain parts of Ireland including parts of the North and Midlands / border counties.

It's also in Hiberno-English (the English spoken in Ireland).

I think we should be tolerant of different dialects of English.

Has anyone raged about "can I get" yet?

What about “hate on” and similar crappy random prepositions?