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To think we need a Royal Commission on the Conduct of the Daily Mail and other media?

144 replies

Jbon9087 · 08/03/2021 17:01

I see this H&M interview a little differently.

Do you agree there needs to be a commission investigation into the conduct of the media specifically the Daily Mail etc especially after the DM lost its court case?

Previous articles should be produced by them - including when Piers Morgan called on the Queen the take baby Archie away. Because its clear the DM is doubling down on their bullying and gaslighting and it has to be stopped before someone is hurt.

So Piers Morgan once liked Megan until she stopped talking to him because he's... him,... so he's used the paper to hound her for like 3 years?? Is he out of his mind? Are we? What if this were me? You? Your best friend? A girl or boy he tried to pick up in a bar? Another celebrity??

Where does it stop?

Forget the RF and H&M for a second, who gave the DM the right to destroy lives and our institutions?

I just damn well hate bullies, hated them at school, and I think we should all hate them.

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OhWhyNot · 08/03/2021 22:29

There may be racist Undertones to media coverage

There should be NO racist undertones (or blatant racism) in our media. None at all.

They are in the public eye always will be Harry and now Megan have no choice over that. Even if they gave an interview every week there is never ever an excuse for racism from our press

Thewinterofdiscontent · 08/03/2021 22:37

[quote bestthingsinceslicedbread]@Happyhippy99 what absolute nonsense! Honestly the people who think Megan and Harry shouldn't speak out when they've been treated do badly are very much part if the problem. Take a long hard look at yourself and how you're speaking about someone who said they wanted to die.
You should be ashamed of yourself as should the tabloids and anyone condoning how they've treated Megan.[/quote]
They had the money, position and privilege to do something about it.
(Which they have).
Pretending they had no agency is bollocks frankly.

Troublewaters2021 · 08/03/2021 22:41

The whole thing baffles me.
Man meets women, move and start a life together with their baby.
Turns in to she is abusive / manipulative / brain washing monster.
Erm maybe he just you know wanted to move like a grown man with his own mind !

Felifox · 08/03/2021 22:43

I do think that Meghan was right in her claim against the DM for publishing the letter to her father. It was a personal letter and the DM didn't have permission to publish it.

Jbon9087 · 08/03/2021 23:39

Its not just the DM racism but disgusting misogony and just general people destruction whenever they feel like it.

Plus the Stephen Lawrence case happened 30yrs ago so if it was a get out of jail card its long expired right?

They have a license to publish news and an independent commission can decide whether its past a point to take it away.

The tabloids - and Piers Morgan - work on the principle that we Brits are so jealous of success that we'll let them go after anyone doing well. They think of us as animals, like crabs in a bucket, climbing over each other’s backs. So isn't it time we told them to where to go.

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lovelychops · 08/03/2021 23:41

smokeduck just because the media constantly build people up to squash them down doesn't make it OK!! They may have had their petty favourites between fergie and Diana as you point out, but what Meghan has had to put up with is beyond the pale.
Remember we now live in the age of social media, so whilst there was some 'standards' the gutter press adhered to, look at negativity online. There was a petition calling her a monkey or some such...
I generally don't know if you can't see the racist bias or you don't want to see it.

Yes, to the previous poster who mentioned the terrible treat of Raheem Sterling Marcus Rashford etc. Its so blatant, perhaps that's why they get away with it. Its in plain sight

user1473878824 · 08/03/2021 23:43

I’m very happy with a free press, thank you. We’re up in arms with countries where a ruling party or monarchy have a hand in what’s printed and rightly so.

Sapho47 · 09/03/2021 01:03

@OhWhyNot

There may be racist Undertones to media coverage

There should be NO racist undertones (or blatant racism) in our media. None at all.

They are in the public eye always will be Harry and now Megan have no choice over that. Even if they gave an interview every week there is never ever an excuse for racism from our press

Harrys the one who dresses up as a nazi right?
Quaagars · 09/03/2021 01:08

YANBU.
Racism and targeted harassment has got to stop, full stop.

Caramelwhispers · 09/03/2021 04:11

The racism angle from the Royal family raised an interesting point. Emma Thynn (she appeared in Strictly) , Marchioness of Bath, is mixed race & married into aristocracy. She has suffered racism from her in laws who refused to attend the wedding. Racism is still definitely an issue amongst some of the upper classes today. It's one thing socialising with foreigners & another thing procreating with them. The aristocracy has spent generations carefully arranging marriages to preserve the continuation of family names & bloodlines etc.

I hope lots of conversations about race & the role of the press comes about from this interview. Is the role of the press to present news or is to hound and attack to produce news headlines?

Sapho47 · 09/03/2021 04:14

@Caramelwhispers

The racism angle from the Royal family raised an interesting point. Emma Thynn (she appeared in Strictly) , Marchioness of Bath, is mixed race & married into aristocracy. She has suffered racism from her in laws who refused to attend the wedding. Racism is still definitely an issue amongst some of the upper classes today. It's one thing socialising with foreigners & another thing procreating with them. The aristocracy has spent generations carefully arranging marriages to preserve the continuation of family names & bloodlines etc.

I hope lots of conversations about race & the role of the press comes about from this interview. Is the role of the press to present news or is to hound and attack to produce news headlines?

The role of the press is to sell advertising space and views.

The news is just the bait

Harriedharriet · 09/03/2021 04:17

@Jbon9087

I see this H&M interview a little differently.

Do you agree there needs to be a commission investigation into the conduct of the media specifically the Daily Mail etc especially after the DM lost its court case?

Previous articles should be produced by them - including when Piers Morgan called on the Queen the take baby Archie away. Because its clear the DM is doubling down on their bullying and gaslighting and it has to be stopped before someone is hurt.

So Piers Morgan once liked Megan until she stopped talking to him because he's... him,... so he's used the paper to hound her for like 3 years?? Is he out of his mind? Are we? What if this were me? You? Your best friend? A girl or boy he tried to pick up in a bar? Another celebrity??

Where does it stop?

Forget the RF and H&M for a second, who gave the DM the right to destroy lives and our institutions?

I just damn well hate bullies, hated them at school, and I think we should all hate them.

Could not agree more - absolute disgrace.

Tonight they are running drone shots of their property by showing the house next door that is for sale. They literally have a red arrow pointing it out.

They are goading them, behaving like bullies and exposing them.

I HATE it.

peak2021 · 09/03/2021 06:33

Royal Commissions are ways of kicking things into the long grass and no doubt any recommendations would be ignored by a Tory government.

What is needed is legislation, something other than libel laws as a way of holding the press to account for their behaviour. Doorstepping being illegal in certain circumstances is one thing.

turquoisewaters · 09/03/2021 06:44

YABU

Other media are damaging too - you just happen to agree with their editorial line.

Many people appreciate being able to read a different narrative. You cannot censor one and not others.

turquoisewaters · 09/03/2021 06:46

They have a license to publish news and an independent commission can decide whether its past a point to take it away

So The Guardian's license should be revoked too?

AirBubbleMe · 09/03/2021 07:33

@turquoisewaters

YABU

Other media are damaging too - you just happen to agree with their editorial line.

Many people appreciate being able to read a different narrative. You cannot censor one and not others.

Bollocks. There's a big difference between responsible reporting and hate campaigns. That you can't see the difference is shocking but unsurprising, you're in good company, the rivers of fear and hatred run deep.
turquoisewaters · 09/03/2021 07:53

responsible reporting

Don't you think the likes of The Guardian can be hyperbolic too and also biased? That some believe any media can be neutral is very worrying

gingganggooleywotsit · 09/03/2021 07:58

I agree the Guardian is just as bad at the opposite end of the spectrum. I would never read it or the DM as their ‘news’ is totally skewed to a left and a right narrative. I stick to the independent.

Dee1975 · 09/03/2021 08:16

The tabloids have a lot to answer for.

turquoisewaters · 09/03/2021 08:27

The tabloids have a lot to answer for

How do you define 'tabloid'? It's all media, some make use of a more elaborate and sophisticated writing style to give an impression of impartiality, that's all

turquoisewaters · 09/03/2021 08:30

A story can be very badly written and still be true (and vice versa)

sixthtimelucky · 09/03/2021 08:31

So you want a controlled press? Okaaaaayyyy...

OhWhyNot · 09/03/2021 09:23

I want a press that’s held accountable yes

I also want the press to not be allowed to hound people, to print lies, to allow a journalist to obsessively write article after article tearing into someone with their perception of who they are not based on fact, a press that can’t get away with hacking phones, a press that are not allowed to write underhand sexist and racist articles

Is that really too much to expect in 2021

gingganggooleywotsit · 09/03/2021 10:04

The DM should be forced to label their stories, e.g state whether they have fabricated it

Andante57 · 09/03/2021 10:08

@turquoisewaters

responsible reporting

Don't you think the likes of The Guardian can be hyperbolic too and also biased? That some believe any media can be neutral is very worrying

This. When Carl Beech made up lies about being abused by Tory ministers and military big wigs (and doing appalling damage to these people) his fantasies were covered by all newspapers but the Guardian really went to town gloating about it. I suppose they thought these people are Conservatives, who cares if it’s true or not.
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