To think we need a Royal Commission on the Conduct of the Daily Mail and other media?

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I see this H&M interview a little differently.

Do you agree there needs to be a commission investigation into the conduct of the media specifically the Daily Mail etc especially after the DM lost its court case?

Previous articles should be produced by them - including when Piers Morgan called on the Queen the take baby Archie away. Because its clear the DM is doubling down on their bullying and gaslighting and it has to be stopped before someone is hurt.

So Piers Morgan once liked Megan until she stopped talking to him because he's... him,... so he's used the paper to hound her for like 3 years?? Is he out of his mind? Are we? What if this were me? You? Your best friend? A girl or boy he tried to pick up in a bar? Another celebrity??

Where does it stop?

Forget the RF and H&M for a second, who gave the DM the right to destroy lives and our institutions?

I just damn well hate bullies, hated them at school, and I think we should all hate them.

@DareIask

Im an averagely intelligent adult who can read all sorts of press articles, watch the news and listen to the interview.

I'm quite capable of reaching my own conclusions, opinions. Why assume we believe everything the press say?!

Because there are a lot of people who will believe what their chosen newspaper prints. Media literacy shouldn't be assumed, it's a skill that needs to be taught and learned.

I agree. I blame DM for hounding Peaches Geldof to her death. They dig their teeth in and just keep biting.

@FiveGensOfLove just Google news stories on Megan Markle. There have been stories about her 'exotic dna' and 'coming straight out of Compton'
Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean these stories in UK tabloids don't exist.
They are fundamentally racist

I'm old enough to remember Milly Dowler and her poor parents clinging to the idea she was alive for years because "the Media" were checking their daughters mobile phone. It hasn't got any better since then, its only got worse.

That could be any one of us because the DM and others have been given a license.

This isn't about having a different opinion, or even news, its about provable lies and hounding people even in death, because they have NO boundaries.

@bestthingsinceslicedbread Don't bother, I've come across people like FiveGens both IRL and online - esp on Mumsnet. They have no vested interest in 'seeing' the racism. I'd even go so far as to say they quite enjoy it. The BBC could call Meghan the n-word on News at Six and people like that would still not see the issue. So the whole 'straight outta compton' stuff doesn't wash with them - if anything it's far too subtle. That's how racism is allowed to flourish within our institutions especially within the media thus becoming a pillar of this country. Don't bother.

For anyone who thinks the press haven't treated Meghan differently due to race, here is an article comparing newspaper headlines about Kate with newspaper headlines about Meghan. In these headlines, Kate is spoken about positively while Meghan is spoken about negatively even though she is doing the exact same things Kate was praised for. Given that they were both in same approximate position - women from non-Royal backgrounds who married one of the two princes- what do you think the main factor might be in how they were treated?

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

Prejudice and racism isn't always overt and in your face, more often than not it is subtle, sneaking, and endemic.

What is in the dna of racist people? What is it they’re lacking? Such a sickness to have and pass it on their offsprings. The obsession with other folks colour of skin to the point of raping and colonising their countries is batshit crazy. Such weakness.

Yes, agree with you 100% op. The power and influence DM gas is unbelievable. They have torn into Harry and Meghan like a dog with a bone. Their entire home page is filled with bile about them today. They don’t seem to be accountable to anyone. It’s really quite scary.

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In that case, how do you explain why a white woman in a similar position (Kate) was praised for specific actions while Meghan was spoken about negatively for those exact same actions?

Here’s a buzz feed article on comparing Kate and Meghan in near enough identical situations: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

It’s one thing not liking her for whatever reason, but the vilification before any of the royal drama, I believe can only be down to racism. It’s the approach of painting her to be a villain from the off and for no other reason - there hadn’t even been any suggestions things were sour. They just took a dislike, call it what you like, but acknowledge that the racist undertones (micro aggressions, even?) are some blatantly obvious when you put hem side by side.

I don’t think a royal commission s the right thing, as another pp said it’s ironing! It has to be independent.

Ignore the typos - it’s no ironing, it’s ironic. God, I bet they wish they could iron this out!

@FoxyTheFox why would you assume it’s racism? I think to jump to the idea that any criticism of a mixed race person is motivated by race is dangerous. She’s American - so, culturally different, which matters - and had huge amounts of extremely positive press over here until the pair of them started acting like ungrateful idiots.
Actually, the “straight outta Compton” line which has been bandied about here as ‘proof’ of UK press racism was coined by US journalists, working in the US.

And it took me so long to post my message (kids, dinner etc!) it had moved on and FoxyTheFox had already linked the article.

YANBU OP.

Elements of the media are horrific, even openly assisting Piers Morgan to stalk a woman he had a clear and totally unrequited sexual interest in - to such an extent he wanted her child removed.

He's starting to look like he could even be a physical danger to Meghan and possibly even her kids, as he's so ragingly obsessed with all of them and most pertinently with punishing Meghan by any means necessary, including taking her child away from her.

If it was me, and Piers was some regular bloke I'd rebuffed and he was carrying on like that amongst my peers I would be absolutely terrified of him.

British tabloids are by and large fucking disgusting. Some of the stuff they post is absolute garbage, and the stuff that is true is often horrible stuff to write about. I absolutely think they shouldn't be able to get away with it, people scream about freedom of speech, and that's what those who oppose it will argue against it; but these are actual people they write lies about, ridicule them, and that's only about the gossip, not even touching the sides about the 'important' stuff.

@PicsInRed

YANBU OP.

Elements of the media are horrific, even openly assisting Piers Morgan to stalk a woman he had a clear and totally unrequited sexual interest in - to such an extent he wanted her child removed.

He's starting to look like he could even be a physical danger to Meghan and possibly even her kids, as he's so ragingly obsessed with all of them and most pertinently with punishing Meghan by any means necessary, including taking her child away from her.

If it was me, and Piers was some regular bloke I'd rebuffed and he was carrying on like that amongst my peers I would be absolutely terrified of him.

I agree, he is weirdly, genuinely obsessed, and it's outrageous he has a mouthpiece both on the television and in print.

OP: Boulevard newspapers print what their readers want to read - if nobody wanted to read it then the newspaper wouldnt sell.
Or are you suggesting that press censorship should be toughened up to ensure that the population only get to read what "others" (whoever they may be) consider "suitable" or "fair"?
A very dangerous road to go down!

Someone said the DM spent 20 pages on H&M today - 20!

Here's are just a few subjects they could be covering if they weren't so busy bullying: Fire Safety Scandal! Mental health up, Suicides rates up, bankruptcy up etc etc etc

Piers is definitely weirdly obsessed with her in a very horrible way. She snubbed him once, early on, and now the knives are out. It’s so narcissistic and predatory. He needs to give it up.

The hate against M and H from DM and Mailonline, especially against M is dangerously off the scale and they run stories every day purely so that their merry band of Meghan haters can comment.

Piers Morgan is beyond obsessed with Meghan and knows it.

The thing is this isn’t just about racism or sensorship. This is about the way the press handle any story.

Just look at how they build people up just to knock them down again, and when they don’t have all the facts, they make them up. This is why the DM etc are constantly in court and lose regularly.

I watched the programme about the downfall of Max Clifford last week, and he admitted that most of the stories he commissioned were complete fabrications, and yet the DM published them as fact, with no research of their own.

And the phone hacking scandal, Piers Morgan was sacked from the mirror for that one and iirc the news of the world closed over it. And yet nothing changes.

Meghan and Harry are just their latest targets, but there will be others. Just give it time....

Having said all that, I do think the public are accountable as well. If people didn’t read these articles and lap them up, then the press would have no incentive to print them.

If people stopped tuning in to GMB, then Piers Morgan would no longer have a platform.

So those members of the public also need to ask the question as to why they want to read/watch this stuff.

And let’s take racism out of the Piers Morgan rant this morning. He essentially called her a liar over her mental health. I’ve read that Ofcom have already received hundreds of complaints about that, but then they receive hundreds of complaints about him after every show, and yet they do nothing. He should be sacked for that comment alone and should never work in the industry again.

@DareIask

I really don't like Piers Morgan most of the time but his article in the DM was spot on.

The one where he said Archie should be taken into care? Or a different one?

People think UK racism is pervasive in a very insidious subtle way (as opposed to the U.S) - but imho it's actually incredibly violent. Just because the newspaper's aren't printing the n-word as a headline or shouting 'monkey' at you on the streets (though didn't some radio DJ post an image of an ape on twitter r.e. Archie's birth) the UK is still a hotbed of racism. It's better than a lot (if not most of Europe) but again that's like saying would you rather 2 servings of shit in your sandwich or 5?
The interesting thing about Meghan is that as mixed race people go she's considered on the lighter end of the spectrum in as much as she is 'passing'. I'm mixed too and the way she's discussed in the press has been of much interest to me and my siblings particularly as god only knows if she'd had the skin tone of Naomi Campbell the country would have spontaneously combust.