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13/14 year old girl is pursued by (and sleeps with) man in his 20's, the girl gets the blame.

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Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 21:54

Well over a decade ago when I was 13 (possibly coming up to 14, I don't remember the month) I was pursued by one of my parents neighbours who knew exactly how old I was.

He was a man in his 20's living with his partner of a similar age and their small child.

He groomed me which resulted in him taking me to his house when his partner was away, I won't go into details but my OP says it all.

It wasn't until I got older that I realised what exactly it was.

A few years ago he tracked me down on Facebook and sent me a message asking if I still live nearby. I pretended not to know who he was as I was hoping he would incriminate himself and he did. He said he was the neighbour who slept with me "from number 3"

I replied "oh yes I remember now, I was 13"

He acknowledged that and carried on messaging, asking for my number and being a pest. I blocked him. He was married to a different woman at this point and had more children.

I didn't feel able to do much about it but every now and then it comes back to me and I feel sad/angry.

I'd only ever told one other person, until today.

I spoke to somebody today who knows him and their automatic reaction was to blame me and say I must have chased him (not true) even if i did what the fuck - and that it's not right to blame him when he was young himself, mid 20's isn't young in my book. 13 is young. They harped on about how he has ADHD and has had problems, poor him.

She went on to say she slept with loads of older blokes when she was in her teens and it was just the done thing. I pointed out that actually if she was having sex with men in their 20's when she was 13 then she was being abused, not having sex.

I wish I didn't say anything now as if that's the response I get from another woman, what would be the point in talking to anybody else.

AIBU to still believe this wasn't my fault?

OP posts:
TheBuffster · 05/03/2021 21:59

Not your fault at all. It sounds like you are still hurting and might benefit from some councilling. Flowers

Christmasfairy2020 · 05/03/2021 21:59

Def not love. I'd have counselling for it. You don't have to report it but do get help xx

Wrenna · 05/03/2021 22:00

It was not your fault, you were a Child!

MiaowMiaow99 · 05/03/2021 22:00

100% abuse.

I'm sorry thst the first person you told had that reaction.

Sometimes people who've experienced the same are unable to face up to the fact it was abuse.

Can you speak to anyone else? Would you consider reporting him?

Shoxfordian · 05/03/2021 22:01

Not your fault at all

Flowers
Wigglegiggle0520 · 05/03/2021 22:01

You’re right OP. It was abuse, rape and absolutely not your fault.

Please seek some support so you aren’t dealing with this alone Flowers

Aquamarine1029 · 05/03/2021 22:03

Whoever this person is who said such utter bullshit is a Neanderthal.

Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 22:05

After it happened his then-partner found out something was going on, I can't remember if she knew I'd been in the house or whether she just saw texts. Anyway, she cornered me on the end of the street when she was with a few other women and she hit me.

For quite some time I felt as though i was complicit in an affair and was ashamed so didn't say anything.

I don't know why this has come back up now, I'm dealing with some other stuff and it's crept it's way in for some reason. Whenever I'm having a hard time it comes back Sad

I wanted to report him to the police but if this is the attitude some people have then I don't think I'd be able to do it.

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Cocomarine · 05/03/2021 22:05

Not your fault at all. Well done you for telling it like it was, to her Flowers

Jumpintothefire · 05/03/2021 22:05

Honestly OP , my stomach heaved when I read this as I have a 14 year old daughter . This man is a despicable groomer . I bet he has done this to other girls since . This wasn't your fault . The person who said that to you was being not only sexist but is very misinformed about CSA. Block this arsehole on every site . I hope he doesn't have daughter's tbh . I hope you can find healing OP . Bless you 💐

GladysTheGroovyMule · 05/03/2021 22:06

You’re not to blame here, he was/is. The person who judged you so harshly won’t change their way of thinking any time soon so it’s best to swerve her from now on. I’m sorry that you were met with such hostility when you shouldn’t have been.

Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 22:06

The person who tried to blame me is a mother of little girls herself, it beggars belief really.

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wonderstuff · 05/03/2021 22:07

Not your fault. I think from the perspective of the person you told it's difficult to hear that someone you know is into grooming underage girls and/or you have in fact been groomed yourself. Her reaction isn't about you, it's her processing, or rather failing to process what you've told her.

My daughter is 13, the idea of a man in his 20s seeking to have sex with her or her friends is stomach churning. Although I'm aware that when I was in my mid-teens there were girls in my school in very unsuitable relationships.

2020iscancelled · 05/03/2021 22:09

It was abuse. I’m sorry OP. There are people out there who can support you and will believe you and not lay any blame at your door.

I would be inclined to agree with PP above who said often when people have suffered similar abuse they are unable to face it / name it and therefore reject it. Her reaction to your story is probably actually a projection of how she feels about her own situation. She is not ready to see it for what it was.

I’m sorry you got this reaction, don’t let that put you off seeking support in real life (maybe counselling / therapy ?)

MarshmallowAra · 05/03/2021 22:09

Could still possibly be prosecuted (?)

Him for stat. rape.

Her for assault (and not reporting stat. rape).

Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 22:10

If I'd have known what get reaction would be I wouldn't have said anything to her, I was clearly mistaken in thinking she was somebody of good character that wouldn't dream of blaming me (given that she's a mother and all)

She will relay it all back to him I'm sure. Thank god I live on the other side of the country now.

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notanothertakeaway · 05/03/2021 22:11

You were a kid, no way was this your fault

Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 22:12

@MarshmallowAra

Could still possibly be prosecuted (?)

Him for stat. rape.

Her for assault (and not reporting stat. rape).

Possibly.

I checked my archived messages and his 'confession' is still there.

I don't think I could face it though to be honest.

As for his ex who hit me, I don't have any proof of that.

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Wishitsnows · 05/03/2021 22:13

Not your fault. I hope you are OK. I think you could still report. Take care of yourself

Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 22:14

It's really shocking that a woman/mother would say those things isn't it.

"Well what does that say about you, going after men 10 years older than you"

I told her it was a clear case of grooming and she clearly doesn't understand how CSE works.

"He's not a groomer, no way. I know him"

Confused
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purplebiscuits · 05/03/2021 22:16

Not your fault at all.

This woman is very defensive- could she have had a similar situation with him? If not I think what you said has hit a raw nerve with her and her past. However NO reason to make out you were in the wrong.

If you think about reporting google ISVA in your area as she is someone you can talk things over with non judgemental and not police but can explain the process to you.

If you have the screenshot of the message where he admitted it it's good evidence and you can use it if you reported.

Either way, therapy is a good idea.

Wish you well.

Plzholdmyhandforamin · 05/03/2021 22:19

Without saying too much as it's already quite outing, she knows him very well (at least she thinks she does) so she has a vested interest in painting me to be the bad one and him innocent.

I would imagine it would be quite unnerving for her to accept he is what he is.

I will think about some counselling definitely.

Thank you all x

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FireflyRainbow · 05/03/2021 22:19

Same thing happened to me OP I'd just had my 14th bday. I have a 14 year old and it's just disgusting to think of. Report him.

converseandjeans · 05/03/2021 22:21

I think you were groomed. I imagine him messaging you brought memories back.

You should consider reporting. Keep the messages - maybe take a screen shot. I don't know if it's possible to delete messages on messenger.

Kendodd · 05/03/2021 22:21

I see you still have his messages. Please keep them OP, whatever you do, don't delete.
Contact rape crisis, they can advise you about your options. I would say go to the police, no way will you be blamed by the police, maybe ten years ago you would have been, but not now, not after the grooming scandals. I know it takes bravery to do that though and you might not even get a conviction.
Take care.