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To think that if NHS staff get a 1% pay rise that is nothing but an insult?

423 replies

Bluetoybox · 04/03/2021 22:22

Given the joke of a pay rise given over the last 3 years, well below inflation in real terms anyway but where the Government also out and out lied by failing to mention that you'd drop an increment step to get your pay rise and now this after all the NHS have done in the last year!!! A decade capped at 1% before the 3 year review and now they want to send us right back to 1%
Absolutely disgusted!

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Vargas · 05/03/2021 17:11

But we clapped though? And those mates of the cabinet members really did need all those millions of backhanders for dodgy PPE. And poor Priti, it's not her fault she got called out for bullying and had to pay someone off to avoid a humiliating tribunal. And surely it's not the Tories fault that Test and Trace was a billion pound shitshow. So someone has to pay for all that, and why not the NHS? I mean what the hell have they ever done for us? And don't forget the clapping....

Skinnytailedsquirrel · 05/03/2021 17:16

Well I've had 100% pay cut as have many other people. Where are the Government supposed to get the money from?? We have none. I think lots of people are jumping on the band-wagon about this.

Gobbledene · 05/03/2021 17:19

@PattyPan

Extra annual leave is definitely dreaming. My (non-NHS) organisation is having to think very carefully about it because everyone has so much they haven’t been able take, that if we aren’t able to carry over more than usual the organisation is at risk of shutting down for a few weeks while we all use it up. Which would probably be amusing for us, but the impact would be front page news and not in a good way.
Haha yes indeed, I guess more accurately- just being able to take some leave. Seems to be easing now and people are able to take it which is good, where I am anyway.
Biker47 · 05/03/2021 17:25

Myself and many others are getting 0%, and work in sectors with a lot less job security, my cup isn't overflowing with sympathy at this time, especially when it's coming off the back of a pisstaking request for 12.5%.

ThrowingAShellstrop · 05/03/2021 17:28

They can take my 1% and shove it up their fucking arse. I’ll be one of the swathes of frontline NHS workers fleeing as soon as I am able and leaving a vacancy they will never fill. This is the final straw.

WannabemoreWeaver · 05/03/2021 17:29

I remember at the time of the Thursday night clap where someone wrote a piece saying they were going to stop doing it because of the way the NHS were really being treated - that clapping was nice but that and 'putting their arms around' the NHS could not be a substitute for funding it properly and treating staff well. No wonder they have problems filling jobs!

ThrowingAShellstrop · 05/03/2021 17:30

@Skinnytailedsquirrel

Well I've had 100% pay cut as have many other people. Where are the Government supposed to get the money from?? We have none. I think lots of people are jumping on the band-wagon about this.
Where to get the money from: Failed track and trace. Shit PPE deals. Money spent in looking into and covering up allegations against Priri Patel. Brexit.

Just a few to start you off.

wanderings · 05/03/2021 17:30

it's 1% more than many other people will get
This. And contrary to what many people would like to believe (probably including Saint Boris), there is no magic money tree.

I do think that the MPs should have taken a 20% pay cut, though, having forced millions of their constituents to do so.

QuidditchQueen · 05/03/2021 17:31

I have just wasted ages trying to upload LFT test results to crappy rubbish NHS website - utter rubbish than the organisation other than the holy NHS who get paid even if they don’t deliver could get away with.
Also have had numerous ‘letters’ from the NHS when my GP has (and uses) my number to text.
Sort out the pointless waste and inefficiency before giving any pay rises.

MarshaBradyo · 05/03/2021 17:32

People sound like they are getting fed up and will leave

Others will be facing increasing falls and job insecurity

Stellaris22 · 05/03/2021 17:32

Where are the government supposed to get the money from?

It's odd how there's no difficulty when handing out contracts to Harding etc. It's not jumping on the bandwagon, it's about valuing the NHS and the staff who have committed to long, hard hours of work. This is how they're rewarded after 'clap for carers' and the like?

Frankly I'm disgusted at anyone defending the governments choice to do this.

ThrowingAShellstrop · 05/03/2021 17:32

NASA put a fucking robot on Mars for less the UK government wasted on bungled Track and Trace debacle.

I mean, C’MON!!

saltandpepperchickenandchips · 05/03/2021 17:35

@fromdownwest

Although I do have a degree of empathy, people need to realise where we are economically.

The country has its back against the wall, and demanding a payrise 13.8 times inflation is just goady in my opinion.

It is not sour grapes to point out the job stability, pension provision, sick pay and lack of risk of employer failure afforded to those in public services.

I think people in the Public Sector, need to take a look at current climates. Job losses exceeding 200k, hours cut, pay frozen or even reduced.

They do a fantastic job, of which I am grateful, however, but they need to be mindful of how they approach this. They will alienate a lot of public empathy if they bemoan a payrise of any sort.

This.

I think many will struggle to have empathy with a 1% pay rise when there’s been so many forced to have a 20% pay cut during furlough (through no fault of their own), sectors completely shut down and ever increasing unemployment figures.

Racoonworld · 05/03/2021 17:42

Yes I agree with pop above. A 1% raise is good at the moment, many private sector staff are facing salary cuts and redundancy. Inflation is down so 1% is above inflation rise. Public sector have pensions and job security the private sector doesn’t have too, especially at the moment.

Ermidunno · 05/03/2021 17:42

I absolutely get that others have taken a 20% pay cut on furlough but consider that Nursing staff are currently getting this amazing 3 year pay deal that will bring them from a cumulative equivalent of 20% pay cut over the last 10 years up to a 14% pay cut over the last 10 years. That is the problem that we’re already so far behind.

Eaumyword · 05/03/2021 17:43

@Skinnytailedsquirrel

Well I've had 100% pay cut as have many other people. Where are the Government supposed to get the money from?? We have none. I think lots of people are jumping on the band-wagon about this.
This is true. I've had my hours involuntarily cut and haven't had a pay rise in 7years. The job requirements (I work in a school) have increased and I am really, really low paid for my skills and qualifications. I do think that a lot of money could have been saved from not employing the likes of Dido Harding and something like a 2.5% pay increase would have been a better gesture. I do not like the threat of strike action when that would negatively affect the vaccination programme and directly threaten the health and lives of people across the nation. I was uncomfortable about all the clapping business because at some point it was going to be clear that HCP would want pay rises where there aren't necessarily funds available.
Ermidunno · 05/03/2021 17:44

We’ve also all been forced into new pension schemes so that my current NHS pension is worse than my husbands private pension conditions and contributions. I do get better sick pay.

MarshaBradyo · 05/03/2021 17:45

Job security isn’t to be underestimated

It’s tough in many sectors atm

I know people say they can find other work easily and fair enough if they can but the private sector is having a tough time (most of it)

colouringindoors · 05/03/2021 17:47

It's absolutely disgusting.

They could find the money if they wanted too - they found another £17BILLION for Serco, looking at £100billion for HS2, not to mention the millions that went to their cronies for dodgy PPE contracts.

The NHS is now chronically understaffed. We will see more staff leave post covid, not least as a result of ptsd like an ICU nurse friend of mine who is so ill with it. The Tories want it to collapse.

YADNBU

Racoonworld · 05/03/2021 17:47

@Ermidunno so are many, many people in the private sector though. Lots haven’t had pay rises at all in the last 10 years, others below inflation rises. And no job security, pensions cut, less holiday, statutory mat pay and sick pay. A 1% rise would be celebrated by lots of people at the moment. Now is not the time to be asking for more.

TrickyD · 05/03/2021 17:49

Nurses getting a decent pay rise would be good. But if it also applies to GPS I would be very annoyed.
So many have used the pandemic as an excuse to impose ridiculous barriers to their sick patients accessing help. Not all, before all the hardworking MN GPs turn up, but many.

Racoonworld · 05/03/2021 17:49

I do believe those NHS staff working in front line covid wards should get a decent one off bonus this year though. Those people absolutely deserve a reward.

Ermidunno · 05/03/2021 17:50

@Racoonworld I do agree it isn’t the time to be honest. But whilst MPs continue to give themselves large pay rises and award their mates million pound contracts they aren’t fulfilling then I will continue to feel we should as there clearly is money available. When they lead by example I will do my duty and take it on the chin.

Covidatemyhomework · 05/03/2021 17:53

I work for the NHS. Given the state of the countries finances at the moment and the amount of money that has been paid out in the last year - I wasn’t expecting any kind of pay rise. 1% is genuinely 1% more than I expected.

Gobbledene · 05/03/2021 17:54

@colouringindoors

It's absolutely disgusting.

They could find the money if they wanted too - they found another £17BILLION for Serco, looking at £100billion for HS2, not to mention the millions that went to their cronies for dodgy PPE contracts.

The NHS is now chronically understaffed. We will see more staff leave post covid, not least as a result of ptsd like an ICU nurse friend of mine who is so ill with it. The Tories want it to collapse.

YADNBU

I agree, but a pay rise won't help.