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Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/02/2021 09:02

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DuncinToffee · 27/02/2021 11:53

(CNN)The House of Representatives voted early Saturday morning to approve President Joe Biden's $1.9 trillion pandemic aid package, a major step toward enacting the first legislative priority of the new administration as the devastating fallout from the spread of Covid-19 has left Americans in dire need of further relief.

Now that the bill has passed the House it will next go to the Senate.

Making the effort more complicated, the Senate is expected to strip out a provision in the legislation increasing the federal minimum wage after the Senate parliamentarian ruled against including it under the procedure known as reconciliation, which Senate Democrats are using to pass the bill with a simple majority vote

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/26/politics/stimulus-package-covid-relief-house-vote

DuncinToffee · 27/02/2021 12:04

From lionheart's link

The tweets that have bothered them so? Ones in which she likened Ted Cruz, in the news most recently for helping to ignite insurrection and abandoning his constituents in the middle of a crisis for a Cancun vacation, to a “vampire,” called Tom Cotton a “fraud,” dubbed Mitch McConnell “Voldemort,” and said that Susan Collins was “the worst.”

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 27/02/2021 14:31

@lionheart

CPAC stage looks like this.
Dear God, did they really want to be this freakin' obvious?
Roussette · 27/02/2021 15:20

I've seen bits and bobs from CPAC.

Dear god, the GOP are losing it big time.

'A conference dedicated to the future of America’s conservative movement turned into a tribute to Donald Trump as speakers declared their fealty to the former president and attendees posed for selfies with a golden statue bearing his likeness'

AcrossthePond55 · 27/02/2021 15:22

@DuncinToffee

From lionheart's link

The tweets that have bothered them so? Ones in which she likened Ted Cruz, in the news most recently for helping to ignite insurrection and abandoning his constituents in the middle of a crisis for a Cancun vacation, to a “vampire,” called Tom Cotton a “fraud,” dubbed Mitch McConnell “Voldemort,” and said that Susan Collins was “the worst.”

Tsk tsk, Lion & Duncin, we can't have a woman saying such things. It simply isn't ladylike, doncha know.

It is (still) simply amazing to me how the GOP turned a blind eye to Doofus (and others) saying and tweeting much worse and distinctly personal (re appearance, mannerisms, speech) insults and brushed them off with "That's politics" or "That's just how he is".

Roussette · 27/02/2021 15:55

Yes...the indignation of her tweets is laughable

DuncinToffee · 27/02/2021 15:56

Sorry Across Grin

DuncinToffee · 27/02/2021 15:58

Latest speaker

Zachary Petrizzo @ZTPetrizzo

Rep. Gosar begins his CPAC talk by attempting to distance himself from white nationalist Nick Fuentes’ AFPAC conference, where he spoke last night.

Caramelwhispers · 27/02/2021 21:53

@lionheart

CPAC stage looks like this.
What is that second flag on the right hand side of the stage?
AcrossthePond55 · 28/02/2021 01:14

@Caramelwhispers

I believe that's the Florida state flag. CPAC is in Orlando this year.

Caramelwhispers · 28/02/2021 01:23

Thank you @AcrossthePond55 I didn't recognise it so thought I'd ask. So glad it wasn't the confederate flag, that would have been a bit too blatant. Pp's have commented on the stage design which I didn't understand. Is there something significant in the stage design?

AcrossthePond55 · 28/02/2021 01:51

@Caramelwhispers

Thank you *@AcrossthePond55* I didn't recognise it so thought I'd ask. So glad it wasn't the confederate flag, that would have been a bit too blatant. Pp's have commented on the stage design which I didn't understand. Is there something significant in the stage design?
Yes, it's the shape of the raised walkway. I didn't get it either but someone mentioned 'Odal Rune' which I googled. It's apparently a well-recognized Nazi insignia which has been adopted by white supremacists and far right-wing organizations.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_(rune)

lionheart · 28/02/2021 01:53

Nazis used the Nordic Rune design and so do certain white supremacists.

www.snopes.com/fact-check/cpac-stage-nazi-symbol/

www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/2/26/2018265/-Yes-They-Are-Fascists

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/02/2021 11:22

Caramelwhispers
So glad it wasn't the confederate flag, that would have been a bit too blatant.

I wish the racist gits hadn't hijacked the words "confederate flag". Couldn't they have stuck to calling their rag the Southern Cross?

Chances are that the actual Confederate flag, the Stars-and-Bars in any of its incarnations, would not immediately be recognised by the white supremacists in the GOP. That thing showing a saltire with thirteen stars in it isn't the flag of the Confederates; depending on the exact colour of the saltire, it's either the Confederacy's Navy Jack (used from 1863 to 1865), or an elongated version of the Battle Flag of Tennessee, or the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.

Caramelwhispers · 28/02/2021 12:18

Thank you all for the explanations. Really interesting and alarming to see how quickly the Republicans have swung to the far right corner.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/02/2021 12:27

But it hasn't been quick! It has been going on since Johnson -- "We have lost the South for a generation" was never actually said by him as far as I have ever been able to find out, but the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or maybe the Voting Rights Act of 1965, started a deliberate policy by the other side, ie the Republicans, to capture the votes of all the people who had in any way found those Acts objectionable or threatening, and that was bound to be the people who saw anyone black as not-properly-American: white supremacist supporters in small, and in large.

From white supremacism to outright fascism is a slow but steady progression, and from "we want the votes of the whites" to "we want the blacks to be unable to vote" is really obvious if you have that mindset at all.

Caramelwhispers · 28/02/2021 12:46

I should have added that it was quick since Trump lost the election, they made it very blatant. It was all there before but hidden & veiled & not so blatant. Well it was but it wasn't if you see what I mean, I'm not making myself very clear! I was just surprised by how many GOP senators endorsed Trump & his dangerous ideologies. They aren't even ashamed to hide it anymore, their wearing their filthy racism as a badge of pride.

lionheart · 28/02/2021 13:47

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/trump-useful-idiot-not-gone-yet_n_6031b49ac5b66da5dba1e428?ri18n=true

'Americans need to be honest about what nearly happened and why. Trump has never in his life cared about democracy, as was pretty clear when he first started running for the presidency back in 2015. That so many of our fellow citizens did not seem to care about that, and would to this day prefer a Trump autocracy to a constitutional republic, is more than a little worrisome.

If a small number of people in key positions had not made the decisions they did for the good of the country, we could easily be living with Trump still in the White House as … not as president, because people who lose elections are not called that, but … something else. The American experiment would be over.'

DGRossetti · 28/02/2021 13:57

Americans need to be honest about what nearly happened and why. Trump has never in his life cared about democracy, as was pretty clear when he first started running for the presidency back in 2015.

Not quite sure what that sentence is supposed to achieve ? It suggests that Trump is somehow odd for not caring about democracy. Arguably that's his most American trait.

Like many*, Americans love to talk about democracy, usually using the Imperial Perfect tense (as in "ours is perfect and yours sucks donkeys").

*UKians included ...

AcrossthePond55 · 28/02/2021 18:53

Americans need to be honest about what nearly happened and why. Trump has never in his life cared about democracy, as was pretty clear when he first started running for the presidency back in 2015.

Here are a few of my ideas of contributing factors (in no particular order)

Voter apathy/smugness on the part of Democrats
Lack of 'cohesiveness' and consensus in the Democratic party
White entitlement
White supremacy
Xenophobia
Cult of Celebrity
We love a 'self made man', the lie he perpetrated about himself.
Trump's HUGE ego and narcissism
GOP believed they'd control him like a puppet on a string.

EveryoneRevealsThemselves · 28/02/2021 19:41

Just in case the gold Trump statue and the stage shaped like a Nazi symbol, check out the murdering of the national anthem at CPAC

lionheart · 28/02/2021 19:47

Trump is speaking tonight, isn't he?

DuncinToffee · 28/02/2021 19:54

@lionheart

Trump is speaking tonight, isn't he?
Yes

According to Jim Acosta (CNN)
Trump will claim no civil war inside GOP and attack party “hacks” per excerpts released ahead of today’s speech: “The Republican Party is united. The only division is between a handful of Washington DC establishment political hacks, and everybody else all over the country.”