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Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/02/2021 09:02

Thread title inspired by minou123 Smile

Previous thread:
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lionheart · 05/04/2021 19:40
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Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)
lionheart · 06/04/2021 00:48

Miller:

www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1262768

'Stephen Miller, the arch-white nationalist of the Trump administration, has launched his post-White House career with a flurry of media interviews, cable television hits and what amounts to a full-fledged shadow war against the Biden administration.

Miller is orchestrating GOP attacks on the new administration’s border policy, encouraging leaks from border enforcement officials and laying the groundwork for legal challenges. In interviews, he even portrays himself as an ally of the media, digging for the truth.'

Roussette · 06/04/2021 07:19

Bleurghhh the white nationalist Stephen Miller, thought we'd seen the back of him.

Trump who has apparently recreated his WH office at MarALago caught out with not only a statue of himself but a bottle of coke hidden behind his telephone a couple of days after he called for everyone to boycott coke. Grin

www.thewrap.com/trump-clowned-for-hidden-coke-bottle-after-he-demanded-a-coca-cola-boycott/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 06/04/2021 08:07

I did wonder if Doofus had thought through how he planned to manage his fluids intake without Diet Coke. Obviously he hadn't...

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lionheart · 06/04/2021 08:21

You'd think that people like Miller would just slink off back to the shadows, especially with all the ongoing investigations and potential lawsuits.

PerkingFaintly · 06/04/2021 13:21

It's really not over yet.

Trump was just the 800 lb gorilla let loose to break everything.

Now the people with actual plans are enjoying having the wreckage to play with and rebuild per their longstanding wishes.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 06/04/2021 13:55

With regards to it not being over.

Populism is merely a symptom. Treatment must target the underlying disease.

It is a form of politics that educated opinion disdains. But it’s no good wishing populism away. Wake up to the underlying condition of mis-governance that creates it—and then shake up our institutions to fix the link between the governing and governed.
www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/populism-is-merely-a-symptom-treatment-must-target-the-underlying-disease

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/04/2021 14:05

Populism is neither left nor right wing, I feel; at the moment it's manifesting itself as right-wing all over the place in Europe and the Americas, but in previous decades it's been socialist, and communist too, in various times and countries in Europe for sure. Not so easy to define in America, where I think it has mostly been "leave us alone why don't you!" as a creed until quite recently.

DuncinToffee · 06/04/2021 19:28

Chauvin trial

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Former Officer Derek Chauvin underwent training in 2016 and 2018 on how to defuse tense situations with people in crisis and how police must use the least amount of force necessary to get someone to comply, the jury at Chauvin’s murder trial was told Tuesday.

Sgt. Ker Yang, the Minneapolis police official in charge of crisis-intervention training, and use-of-force instructor Lt. Johnny Mercil became the latest department members to testify as part of an effort by prosecutors to demolish the argument that Chauvin was doing what he was trained to do when he put his knee on George Floyd’s neck last May.

apnews.com/article/police-trials-minneapolis-racial-injustice-death-of-george-floyd-dca11e4f78f8f30d18db7a14e8b17d39?

DuncinToffee · 06/04/2021 19:42

More hypocrasii from McConnell

McConnell warns businesses of 'serious consequences' after many condemn Georgia's restrictive voting law

The statements by McConnell are particularly notable not only because he has long championed the involvement of corporate money in politics a past position he attempted to square with new remarks on Tuesday but because the Republican Party traditionally has been more sympathetic to big business.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/04/06/politics/mcconnell-businesses-georgia-elections-law/index.html

DuncinToffee · 06/04/2021 19:43

hypocrisy

DuncinToffee · 06/04/2021 21:07

Jen Psaki Smile

PETER DOOCY: Is the WH concerned MLB is moving their All Star Game to Colorado, where voting rules are very similar to Georgia?

PSAKI: Let me refute that. CO has same-day registration, universal mail voting... it's important to remember the context. The GA bill is built on a lie

lionheart · 06/04/2021 21:14

edition.cnn.com/2021/04/06/economy/imf-us-economy-recovery/index.html

'London (CNN Business)President Joe Biden's $1.9 trillion stimulus package will boost the US economy and drive faster global growth this year, the International Monetary Fund said Tuesday, though it warned that many countries continue to suffer from the pandemic and are at risk of being left behind.'

lionheart · 07/04/2021 10:46

State of the Nation:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/07/republican-voter-suppression-policy-stop-the-steal

'Hundreds of bills nationwide target people of color whose full participation in future elections is seen by Republicans as a threat.'

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 07/04/2021 13:06

"Stop the steal" is an ironic slogan given that it is used by people whose objective seems to be to steal the right to vote from anyone they think may vote against them!

Lweji · 07/04/2021 13:43

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Populism is neither left nor right wing, I feel; at the moment it's manifesting itself as right-wing all over the place in Europe and the Americas, but in previous decades it's been socialist, and communist too, in various times and countries in Europe for sure. Not so easy to define in America, where I think it has mostly been "leave us alone why don't you!" as a creed until quite recently.
Yes, to the point that sometimes it's quite hard to assign as right or left, apart from the context from where it emerged. There is always a threat or a scapegoat that is external to the target audience.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 07/04/2021 13:48

Actually, in America it might still be said to be "Leave us alone why don't you!" in that the scapegoat is really the Other (in this case other race), and the fear of the populists is that the Other may lead to change in what is regarded by the populists as the norm.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/04/2021 14:01

Randy Rainbow 🌈 back with Ted and Lindsey Grin

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cricketballs3 · 07/04/2021 16:27

With these new voting laws etc could someon please explain why there are so much issues re voting? Whether that's in person, early, mailed, ID, drop boxes etc?

In the village where I live in the UK, for a population of 2500; we have 2 polling stations available (7am to 10pm on the day of an election), postal voting very easy to sort out and as per UK laws the electrol roll is checked annually for every household with votes being manually counted.

Whilst I appreciate there is a huge difference re size of areas/population/number of voters it just seems such a mystery that there are so many 'blocks'

WhatdoImean · 07/04/2021 17:22

The issue is that a large percentage of Black/ethnic/poor voters tend to vote Democratic.

As such, from a Republican perspective, the fewer such people vote, overall, the better for them.

One way of doing this is to introduce hurdles that disproportionately affect such voters - such as requiring ID (then making it hard to GET such ID - have a look at getting driving licences in the US, and see where most of the locations you can get them from are located...), preventing people from voting early, such that they have to take time off work (for lower paid workers, very hard to do), making the voting process for those in such area harder, so they are forced to queue for more time etc.

All of the above is a cynical attempt to reduce turnout for Democratic voters, while pretending it is about voter security. They are using the strong belief amongst a number of Republican groups that there was mass fraud in the previous presidential election (there wasn't) as the fig leaf for why they are doing this.

WhatdoImean · 07/04/2021 17:26

Linked to the above.... people often have to queue for hours to vote in the US.... And now some jurisdictions are saying (for example) that no-one can provide drinks etc,. for those queuing.

My American "friends" say "If you cannot provide your own water, you are too dumb to vote".... not seeing that "if you have to queue for hours to vote in what is nominally "the leader of the free world" where pretty much any Western democracy voting is done within minutes" is actually the problem.

Sorry - bit of a blue-touch paper issue.

Oh - wait for the current UK Government to introduce similar restrictions in the UK (they are already in train), again for "voter security" when in fact there has been next to no election fraud in the UK.

Sad days

Anniegetyourgun · 07/04/2021 17:37

Nearly new thread time...

ZZTopGuitarSolo · 07/04/2021 18:37

In the village where I live in the UK, for a population of 2500; we have 2 polling stations available (7am to 10pm on the day of an election), postal voting very easy to sort out and as per UK laws the electrol roll is checked annually for every household with votes being manually counted.

And where I live in the US it's very similar. I don't have to show ID to vote, I rarely wait long in line, it's very easy to apply for postal voting.

But I live in a well-off, mostly-white neighbourhood...

Lweji · 07/04/2021 20:16

Oh, dear.
He can't be as awful as his dad, can he?
Or is he otherwise unemployable, like many other former Administration employees?

www.businessinsider.com/andrew-giuliani-is-heavily-considering-a-run-for-new-york-governor-2021-4