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Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 22/02/2021 09:02

Thread title inspired by minou123 Smile

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4162151-Whilst-Biden-and-Harris-are-busy-doing-their-jobs-theres-an-Impeachment-Hearing-going-on-125?msgid=104924217#104924217

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Minimammoth · 22/02/2021 21:25

Just keeping an eye on things

NotaRealLawyer · 22/02/2021 22:17

Thank you for the new thread!

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2021 22:54

www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/02/22/collins-oppose-tanden-jeopardize-nomination

Neera Tanden in deeper jeopardy as 2 Republicans oppose her nomination
Without support from Sen. Joe Manchin in an evenly divided Senate, Tanden needs backing from at least one Republican.

Sens. Susan Collins and Mitt Romney said on Monday they will oppose Tanden to lead the White House Budget Office, dealing a decisive blow to her hopes of confirmation.

DuncinToffee · 22/02/2021 23:03

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56118936

How Trump offered Kim a ride on Air Force One

And Secretary General Guterres said to President Trump: 'Jeff Feltman has this strange invitation to go to Pyongyang and lead a policy dialogue with the North Koreans.'

"And Trump leaned over toward him and said: 'Jeff Feltman should go to Pyongyang and Jeff Feltman should tell the North Koreans I'm willing to sit down with Kim Jong-Un.'"

He told us: "I went to Pyongyang deeply, deeply concerned given this feeling that war was imminent. I left Pyongyang terrified that what we really risked was an accidental war."

lionheart · 23/02/2021 01:39

theintercept.com/2021/02/22/capitol-riot-fbi-cellphone-records/

'WITHIN HOURS OF the storming of the Capitol on January 6, the FBI began securing thousands of phone and electronic records connected to people at the scene of the rioting — including some related to members of Congress, raising potentially thorny legal questions.

Using special emergency powers and other measures, the FBI has collected reams of private cellphone data and communications that go beyond the videos that rioters shared widely on social media, according to two sources with knowledge of the collection effort.'

Caramelwhispers · 23/02/2021 02:37

I would love it if they link Lauren Boebert to the 6 Jan events & question or arrest her. Her mum was allegedly at the Capitol building giving guided tours to the insurrectionists even though Boebert denies this. The FBI investigation will reveal lots of interesting and incriminating information. She comes across as a deeply unpleasant individual who has huge potential to do a lot of future damage. People like her, MTJ and the Trum children need to be controlled now.

Roussette · 23/02/2021 07:25

Biden talking to the Nation about Covid deaths. This is just a bit of his speech, it's very moving. The whole speech is www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-speech-coronavirus-death-toll-b1805919.html here]]

Every nation needs a leader to help them grieve and Biden is it. He knows grief, he can empathise. Trump just wanted everyone to say he was doing a great job and people only mourned to make him look bad in his warped reality. I think there is a lot of supressed grief in the US, and over here to be honest.

“Each day, I receive a small card in my pocket that I carry with me in my schedule. It shows the number of Americans who have been infected by or died from Covid-19. Today, we mark a truly grim, heartbreaking milestone: 500,071 dead. That’s more Americans who have died in one year in this pandemic than in World War I, World War II and the Vietnam War combined. That’s more lives lost to this virus than any other nation on Earth.

“But as we acknowledge the scale of this mass death in America, we remember each person and the life they lived. They’re people we knew. They’re people we feel like we knew. Read the obituaries and remembrances. The son who called his mom every night just to check in. The father’s daughter who lit up his world. The best friend who was always there. The nurse – the nurse and nurses – but the nurse who made her patients want to live.

“We often hear people described as ‘ordinary Americans’. There’s no such thing; there’s nothing ordinary about them. The people we lost were extraordinary. They spanned generations – born in America, immigrated to America. But just like that, so many of them took final breath alone in America.

“As a nation, we can’t accept such a cruel fate. While we have been fighting this pandemic for so long, we have to resist becoming numb to the sorrow. We have to resist viewing each life as a statistic or a blur or ‘on the news’. And we must do so to honor the dead, but equally important, care for the living and those left behind.

“For the loved ones left behind, I know all too well. I know what it’s like to not be there when it happens. I know what it’s like when you are there, holding their hands. There’s a look in your eye, and they slip away. That black hole in your chest – you feel like you’re being sucked into it, the survivor’s remorse. the anger. the questions of faith in your soul.

“For some of you, it’s been a year, a month, a week, a day, even an hour. And I know that when you stare at that empty chair around the kitchen table, it brings it all back, no matter how long ago it happened, as if it just happened that moment you looked at that empty chair. The birthdays, the anniversaries, the holidays without them. And the everyday things – the small things, the tiny things – that you miss the most. That scent when you open the closet. That park you go by that you used to stroll in. That movie theater where you met. The morning coffee you shared together. The bend in his smile. The perfect pitch to her laugh.

“I received a letter from a daughter whose father died of Covid-19 on Easter Sunday last year. She and her children – his grandchildren – enter Lent this season, a season of reflection and renewal, with heavy hearts. Unable to properly mourn, she asked me in the letter, ‘What was our loss among so many others?’

“As a nation, we cannot and we must not let this go on. That’s why the day before my inauguration, at the Covid-19 Memorial at the Reflecting Pool on the National Mall, I said to heal, we must remember. I know it’s hard. I promise you, I know it’s hard – I remember. But that’s how you heal: You have to remember. And it’s also important to do that as a nation.

“For those who have lost loved ones, this is what I know: They’re never truly gone. They’ll always be part of your heart. I know this, as well – and it seems unbelievable, but I promise you: The day will come when the memory of the loved one you lost will bring a smile to your lips before a tear to your eye. It will come. I promise you. My prayer for you though is that day will come sooner rather than later. And that’s when you know you’re going to be OK. You’re going to be OK.

“And for me, the way through sorrow and grief is to find purpose. I don’t know how many of you have lost someone a while ago and are wondering, ‘Is he or she proud of me now? Is this what they want me to do?’ I know that’s how I feel. And we can find purpose – purpose worthy of the lives they lived and worthy of the country we love.

So today, I ask all Americans to remember: Remember those we lost and those who are left behind.

“In just a few minutes, Jill and I, Kamala and Doug, will hold a moment of silence here in the White House – the People’s House, your house. We ask you to join us to remember, so we can heal; to find purpose in the work ahead; to show that there is light in the darkness.

“This nation will smile again. This nation will know sunny days again. This nation will know joy again. And as we do, we will remember each person we’ve lost, the lives they lived, the loved ones they left behind. We will get through this, I promise you. But my heart aches for you – those of you who are going through it right now.

“May God bless you all, particularly those who have lost someone. God bless you.”

Roussette · 23/02/2021 07:50

And in honour of the thread title, a lovely pic

Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)
pointythings · 23/02/2021 07:56

It's just so good to have a POTUS who speaks like a real human being. The fact that the likes of Tucker Carlson are reduced to attacking the appearance of Biden's dog just says it all.

Chemenger · 23/02/2021 08:03

What a moving piece of writing, so good to have a statesman somewhere who can speak so eloquently and clearly to the state we are in. No bluster and bravado like Johnson would inject, just honest compassion and empathy.

Songsofexperience · 23/02/2021 08:39

That speech brought tears to my eyes because it's authentic. It makes the contrast with what was before even more striking.

EveryoneRevealsThemselves · 23/02/2021 10:16

That speech.
My eyes seem to have sprung leaks.

Roussette · 23/02/2021 10:30

Me too!

By the way, it's much longer than that, I just coped a bit of it over from the article.

I agree about it being authentic, no one can ever say President Biden doesn't understand loss.

I was a wet pool reading it all. Don't know why it hit me this morning, but it did. The sun was shining here, outside looked so beautiful and I just thought of all those people whose world is so much sadder this last year.

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 23/02/2021 11:06

PMK

BoreOfWhabylon · 23/02/2021 11:29

Oh my goodness, that speech. So, so true
For those who have lost loved ones, this is what I know: They’re never truly gone. They’ll always be part of your heart. I know this, as well – and it seems unbelievable, but I promise you: The day will come when the memory of the loved one you lost will bring a smile to your lips before a tear to your eye. It will come. I promise you. My prayer for you though is that day will come sooner rather than later. And that’s when you know you’re going to be OK. You’re going to be OK.

lionheart · 23/02/2021 11:48

edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-manhattan-da-trump/index.html

'In addition to the tax returns going back to 2011, Vance has subpoenaed four other categories of documents, including financial statements, engagement agreements, documents relating to the preparation and review of tax returns, and work papers and communications related to the tax returns.'

DGRossetti · 23/02/2021 12:07

@lionheart

edition.cnn.com/2021/02/22/politics/supreme-court-manhattan-da-trump/index.html

'In addition to the tax returns going back to 2011, Vance has subpoenaed four other categories of documents, including financial statements, engagement agreements, documents relating to the preparation and review of tax returns, and work papers and communications related to the tax returns.'

I imagine there will be some pretty intense forensic analysis of all this. Cross-checking diary entries with press reports and tax submissions and activity.
AcrossthePond55 · 23/02/2021 13:25

Biden's speech really, really hit the mark. That 'black hole in your chest' is exactly what I'm feeling. And his quiet reassurances that we will heal and we will smile again is just what is needed. Not bombast and fake 'emotion-grabbing', but calm and quiet empathy. He's a 'man for our times' indeed.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/02/2021 13:47

Biden's speech - Empathy and appropriate sorrow - just 2 of the things that Trump has no evidence of ever feeling.

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gwenneh · 23/02/2021 13:59

Agreed.
He's not the greatest orator in the world but his own experiences clearly gave him a connection to the words that went beyond what was being said.
Authenticity? In politics? I may die of shock.

prettybird · 23/02/2021 14:20

That bit of his speech resonated with me. My aunt (whose dad had died from a brain tumour) told me as my mum was going downhill with fronto-temporal dementia that it would take time, but that after a while you'd be able to remember the real person and think of them with a smile rather than the harrowing last period.

She said it took her 6 months after her dad (my dad's dad) died (who was diagnosed 6 months previously with the brain tumour so it wasn't too drawn out).

It took me longer than that after my mum died - but it had been drawn out because of the accident, the hope as she appeared to recover from her head injury and then her decline over 3 years as the fronto-temporal dementia developed (last year and a half in a home). Sad But I held on to what my aunt said as comfort.

So while I'm still sad that she's no longer here, I miss her in a "positive" way iyswim: things I'd like to share with her, appreciation of what she achieved - and how much I'm my mother's daughter Wink - rather than the harrowing last year and a half. So I smile with the memories Smile

HoneysuckIejasmine · 23/02/2021 14:58

Biden is a good public speaker. Fairly average compared to other presidents, who tend to be good speakers compared to average Joes. Obama of course was incredible, and Trump was awful.

lionheart · 23/02/2021 16:13

www.rawstory.com/manhattan-da-subpoenas-trump/

PerkingFaintly · 23/02/2021 16:19

Good news about a bad thing.

(Not strictly relevant to this thread, but we've been keeping tabs on things which affect democracy around the globe.)

Daphne Caruana Galizia murder: Suspect pleads guilty
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56172454

One of three men accused of assassinating investigative journalist Daphne Caruana Galizia in Malta in 2017 has been sentenced to 15 years in prison after pleading guilty.
Vincent Muscat admitted involvement on Tuesday in the car bombing that killed the reporter.
^Many suspect it was ordered by top Malta establishment figures./6
Called a "one-woman Wikileaks", Caruana Galizia's work uncovered networks of corruption in the country and abroad.