Biden's not a dog's dinner: Champ, Major (and Snowflake) know a President when they sniff one (Trump thread #126)

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I was thinking of ones before the recent Georgia elections; some at least in 2018, for instance.

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

I was thinking of ones before the recent Georgia elections; some at least in 2018, for instance.

Fake news, fake news ....

I think the Reps supporting Trump, i.e. the vast majority, are making a big mistake. They've jumped the wrong way. It'll be the ones who distanced themselves who'll be at an advantage in 2022.

John Dean (of Nixon repute) thinks that Trump's glory days are over. He's on the wane. The entryists and conspiracy theorists will fade away, back to their factional sectarianism, like the AWL and the SWP in the UK.

When the 200, and counting, arrested and charged are convicted and carted off to jail, minds will be concentrated and Trump's base will be dramatically depleted.

I'm sure there will be a welcome.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/07/donald-trump-new-york-visit-cyrus-vance-michael-cohen

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56019033

'The US is poised to pass its third major spending package of the pandemic - a $1.9tn (£1.4tn) plan that President Joe Biden has championed as a way to help struggling Americans.

Leaders of his Democratic Party, which has a slim majority in Congress, are planning to pass the so-called American Rescue Plan by mid-March. The Senate approved it on Saturday, with the lower House of Representatives expected to endorse it next week.

Republicans say the plan is unnecessarily large and stuffed with Democratic priorities unrelated to the pandemic.

But Mr Biden and his team maintain the US must "act big" and that the extra cash is being spent on those most affected by the crisis - the poor, minorities and women.

Democrats on Thursday saw their push for a minimum wage hike thrown into question after a Senate arbiter ruled it must be removed from the Covid package.'

This would be some achievement

Lewis Goodall @lewis_goodall
Extraordinary stat from Columbia University. They estimate if all the provisions of the Biden stimulus bill are passed it will halve child poverty in the US.

@DuncinToffee

This would be some achievement

Lewis Goodall @lewis_goodall
Extraordinary stat from Columbia University. They estimate if all the provisions of the Biden stimulus bill are passed it will halve child poverty in the US.

Who the hell wants that ? It'll only encourage more immigrants.

(I'm wearing my cap badge upside down )

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/biden-interior-environmental-agenda-extremism-patriot-movement_n_60424aa3c5b660a0f38814af?ri18n=true

thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/542022-texas-patrons-threaten-to-call-ice-on-mexican-restaurant-for-keeping

'Patrons at a Mexican restaurant in Texas threatened to call Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on employees over their refusal to work maskless, according to the establishment's owner.

“This has been ongoing through COVID,” Steven O’Sullivan, an owner of Cantina Barba in Houston, told The Washington Post.'

www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-donald-trump-and-his-loyalists/

What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.

From Washington Post:

Former president Donald Trump has sent a cease-and-desist letter to at least three Republican organizations demanding they stop using his name and likeness to fundraise, two Trump advisers confirmed Saturday.
....
It is unclear what Trump’s team would consider off-limits, though Politico noted the RNC on Friday sent two fundraising emails that asked those who considered themselves “President Trump’s most loyal SUPPORTERS” to virtually sign “the Official Trump ‘Thank You’ Card.”


The outlet also reported that Trump has been angry that those groups could use his name to support Republicans who voted to impeach him a second time. Ten Republican members of Congress voted to impeach Trump in the House, and seven Republican senators voted with Democrats to find the former president guilty of inciting the mob that overran the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

Despite some minor dissent within the Republican Party, Trump continues to assert himself as its leader. At his appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference last month, Trump said his “America First” movement was just getting started, and speaker after speaker affirmed him as the future of the party. A demand that the GOP’s largest fundraising groups not raise money off Trump’s name could complicate Republicans’ efforts to take back the White House, Senate and House, as Trump has promised they will.

The objections to the restaurant staff in Texas wearing masks is just bizarre. Another depressing example of an irrational fear of anyone or anything that doesn't "look" or behave like the objectors do. And yet they seem to think that they are the tough guys.

That article lion

I know.

abcnews.go.com/US/video-surfaces-showing-trump-ally-roger-stone-flanked/story?id=75706765

He makes my skin crawl. More so even than Trump.

This is also designed to make your skin crawl:

www.thedailybeast.com/kirstjen-nielsen-homeland-security-officials-discussed-deploying-heat-ray-on-migrants-nyt-reports

Fascinating ...

Who truly was the most dishonest president?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56246507

I knew they would employers a hard time about wearing masks after it is no longer an requirement. Stuffs like this is why we had to get the governor to require masks

Yuk. Roger Stone. Anyone who has a massive tattoo on his back of Richard Nixon, is dodgy. Let alone all the rest.

I read the article... at least Kirjsten Neilson told Trump never to mention the heatray weapon again.
I scrolled down that article and found another piece .
Apparently Doofus has one fan greet him in NY

[quote DGRossetti]Fascinating ...

Who truly was the most dishonest president?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56246507[/quote]
Oh, we've had some pretty 'mendacious' POTUSes in the past. Probably more than we'll ever know as some lies will never come out.

But Doofus' mendacity takes the cake. Past POTUSes may have lied about their own 'doings', but Doofus did not only that to the nth degree, he openly lied about other people to disparage them AND about a virus that was/is actively killing 1000s of Americans daily.

And of all the Liars-in-Chief of the 'modern' era, it appears that only Doofus and Nixon were actual sociopaths. Or maybe it's psychopaths. I'm never sure which shoe 'fits'.

I wonder which President's lies cost more lives.

Dishonest, though, seems to me the wrong word in that article. Telling lies for a particular purpose on a particular occasion is a less dishonest character than telling lies the whole time, day in day out, for no better reason than because you can. One is a person capable of dishonesty; the other is a person steeped in dishonesty to the centre of their entire existence.

I wonder which President's lies cost more lives.

For all Trumps whoppers, he didn't go to war on them outside the US. Which is quite an achievement for a country that has managed to clock up a total of 17 years in 239 of not being at war with someone

But I would hold him directly responsible for the deaths of a lot of innocent Syrians, and Kurds, and Afghans, for example. By removing US troops from places with little or no warning, he left their allies undefended, to be killed by the people the USA had been fighting against. Also their interpreters, and people who had scraped a living selling things to them, and anyone else who had been relying on the US presence to make them safer.

Not all wars the USA has been involved in were based on a President telling lies, either.

Trump had no respect for human life.
He sold the kurds down the river. Abandoned and betrayed them.
Who knows the cost of human life there.

Yemen