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Cat pooing in neighbours garden

229 replies

Hahaha88 · 18/02/2021 12:26

So my ndn stopped my partner yesterday and mentioned that our cats are pooing in their garden a lot. When he told me I was a bit Hmm because I'm not sure what she expects me to do? I've said to my partner we'll buy some sort of cat deterrent she can put in her garden but other than that I'm not sure what I can do. My cats (2) are outdoor cats and I won't be keeping them in as they love to be out. I keep a clean litter tray for them, which they do use but no doubt they will be pooping outside too as cats do.
We don't have the only cats on the estate so potentially it's not just mine pooing in it (I assume she's seen them rather than just deciding it must be mine).
Aibu to do nothing but provide cat deteerant?

OP posts:
Graciebobcat · 21/02/2021 04:58

I'm a keen gardener and have never found more than a tiny amount of cat poo in the garden, both when we've had cats and a dog and when we haven't. And that was likely fox poo, as I'd seen a couple of cubs scampering about.

Remaker · 21/02/2021 05:00

If you’re not going to change your decision and keep the cats contained, then offering to buy a deterrent is probably all you can do.

It’s possible that it isn’t entirely your cats’ doing but you’re probably contributing to it. My neighbour waited for ages before asking me if my cats were up to date with their worming etc because they were finding a lot of cat poo in their kids’ sand pit. But my cats are indoor cats so it isn’t them, she had just assumed as she knew we had cats.

Graciebobcat · 21/02/2021 05:07

If you live in a neighbourhood next to other gardens and other people you get cats, dogs, children, maybe chickens, escaped rabbits...! All part of the rich tapestry of life. If you don't like this you are going to have a miserable time as people are never not going to have these things. So either you stay miserable, decide to change your attitude or save up to go and live far away from other people in the countryside. In which case you will only be plagued by mountains of horse poo, cow pats and sheep poo wherever you step, and badgers and foxes pooing in your garden Grin

youkiddingme · 21/02/2021 08:46

@Graciebobcat

If you live in a neighbourhood next to other gardens and other people you get cats, dogs, children, maybe chickens, escaped rabbits...! All part of the rich tapestry of life. If you don't like this you are going to have a miserable time as people are never not going to have these things. So either you stay miserable, decide to change your attitude or save up to go and live far away from other people in the countryside. In which case you will only be plagued by mountains of horse poo, cow pats and sheep poo wherever you step, and badgers and foxes pooing in your garden Grin
And yet it used to be accepted that people allowed their dogs to shit everywhere and now this has changed. Most people seem to think this is an improvement. It's not often the horses, cows and sheep are actually likely to be in your garden. If you are troubled by foxes it is legal to shoot them - and no I'm not advocating it but people have the option.
Onedropbeat · 21/02/2021 08:50

We have neiboughrs cats pooing on our lawn since we moved in

With a new baby I had to clear it up every day , there was minimum of 2 fresh piles a day .

I decided to get my own car as I thought that would stop them but it hasn’t

Whatever cat it is that poo’s in our garden now just puts the fear of god in our cat so he doesn’t want to go in our garden at all

Dinocan · 21/02/2021 08:53

I don’t know what you can do about it. Maybe buy her one of those alarm things that make a high frequency noise? Cats never shit in their own garden do they? My dm has this problem. She’s a keen gardener and her flower beds are literally full of cat shit. Every time she wants to do her beds she knows she has to filter it all out first. It’s also a worry when the kids go round to play in the garden. So it can really have a negative effect on a neighbour.

ooohbriefcase · 21/02/2021 09:00

@SqeakyHindge I've never known or owned a cat like your neighbours. It sounds like the devil.

Haveyouallgonequitemad · 21/02/2021 12:11

If u don't want animals in your garden shitting all over the place wtf have u got a bird feeder? Bird feeder=birds birds=cats cats=cat poo.duhhhhh

BrownEyedBlonde · 21/02/2021 12:32

Eh?

What does having a bird feeder have to do with cats shitting in the garden? They’ll shit in a garden, bird feeder or not! Why should we not have bird feeders because of the choice of some people’s pet? Next you be saying, wtf have a garden with soil at all!

DdraigGoch · 21/02/2021 12:44

@Graciebobcat

If you live in a neighbourhood next to other gardens and other people you get cats, dogs, children, maybe chickens, escaped rabbits...! All part of the rich tapestry of life. If you don't like this you are going to have a miserable time as people are never not going to have these things. So either you stay miserable, decide to change your attitude or save up to go and live far away from other people in the countryside. In which case you will only be plagued by mountains of horse poo, cow pats and sheep poo wherever you step, and badgers and foxes pooing in your garden Grin
I don't have a problem with the horse poo along the street. I can walk through a field and easily avoid cow pats (they are pretty easy to spot). Sheep poo is pretty inoffensive too and like the cow pats is left in fields I do not own.

I do however have a problem with treading in a steaming pile of shit IN MY OWN GARDEN.

I'm not over the moon about the massive dog which must live locally with an owner who doesn't pick up after it.

Haveyouallgonequitemad · 21/02/2021 12:57

@BrownEyedBlonde
Well you have a point if u don't want cats in garden soil free is a good idea if you have big issue with cats get rid of bird feeder if it really annoys that much perhaps moving to a high rise flat is the best solution. On the other hand someone once said catpoo is a good fertiliser so maybe if you like growing stuff you should encourage them to your garden. But on the 3rd hand cars are cats and like pooing in gardens so really it's tough luck isn't it? Accept it as part of life stop letting it worry you irritate you and wind you up then you will be happy calm and content rise above it be an adult you will live happily ever after

Haveyouallgonequitemad · 21/02/2021 12:59

Actually cars are not cats but cats are indeed cats just in case you were confused @BrownEyedBlonde

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 21/02/2021 13:41

Yep. It's a risk I take letting them out and having the freedoms they are used to. They'd have a shit life being locked in the house when they are used to being out. Even my elderly black cat likes his hour outside a day.

Fair enough - I was mainly asking that of OP, who sounds somewhat entitled to me; but you obviously have a more realistic perspective.

Wtf? My cat was attacked and killed by an out of control dog right outside my old house. Was the onus not on the owner of that dog to keep it under control?

If it had happened in a private garden then it's an unfortunate accident imo, but it happened on the street outside my house. I caught it on my CCTV. The dog owner had a legal responsibility to keep their dogs under control. That's the law.

I don't see how you can compare a cat pooping in your garden to a cat being mauled by a dog, and simply see it as fair enough.... One is annoying but can be prevented with deterants; the other causes extreme suffering to both animal and human due to the failure of an owner to act responsibly. The devastation of losing our beloved pet in such a traumatic way was untold... I needed counselling to deal with what had happened and we had to move houses because it served as a constant reminder. Pretty sure nobody has ever needed counselling because a cat shat on their garden but it's Mumsnet so you never know!

I think you misunderstood me. Of course the dog owner should have had their dog under control, but if you hadn't left your cat to roam free, it wouldn't have happened either. What if it had been another, bigger cat that had attacked and killed or seriously injured yours? Should the other cat owner have controlled their cat but you shouldn't control yours?

But regardless of that, I was not saying that cats deserved to be attacked or killed as punishment for pooing in people's gardens; just that the same attitude that lets them roam around freely to poo and kill birds and rodents wherever they like is the same attitude that must by rights also accept that they can get into danger.

If you let your small child play out in the road, it could very easily end in tragedy - whether the driver was horrendously careless or couldn't possibly have prevented it, but people (usually) care about and take responsibility for their children, to ensure that it won't happen.

Either your potentially-vulnerable charge is allowed to roam free and face risk or is always supervised and thus kept safe. As I said, you can't have it both ways.

TrialOfStyle · 21/02/2021 14:21

What if it had been another, bigger cat that had attacked and killed or seriously injured yours? Should the other cat owner have controlled their cat but you shouldn't control yours?

My (neutered) cat ended up in a territory fight and had his ear ripped and a leg injury. It was horrendous but even now, after recovery, I won’t lock him up. He was an indoor cat for a long time. As he got older, he had life threatening UTIs and blockages that cost in the ten thousands for repeated visits. The stress was caused by being stuck inside and not being able to roam. Sometimes there isn’t an easy answer. Cats, to people who don’t have them, seem like really simple, easy creatures - and as even said on here ‘for lazy owners’. The reality is can be so hard to get the balance of keeping them safe and keeping them happy.

Devlesko · 21/02/2021 14:37

Disgusting, such selfish people cat owners.
I'd be shoving it through your letterbox.

Nnameechanged · 21/02/2021 14:58

@Sillyduckseverywhere

People like pets that they don't have to clear up after. Cat ownership is very selfish and lazy unless you keep them in. You don't get to ignore the fact they are shitting all over other people's gardens (and despite the pathetic denials, they do) and then wail when your "free spirit" gets run over by a car. At least acknowledge that your choice of pet can be quite distressing to other people. I wish everyone was obliged to keep them indoors by law. Less risk of blind kids and less manky old posters stapled to trees wondering where beloved roaming tiddles went.
Yes, this bothers me! People seem to get hauled over the coals on FB groups for posting that they've seen a cat lying by the side of the road, then give a description in case the owner recognises it. So many times I've then seen the owner come on raging that the person didn't stop to take the cat to the vet and how evil they are, etc. I imagine it just makes people more reluctant to even try to find the owner.
WildfirePonie · 21/02/2021 15:00

Gross, you should build a catio - you can make it as big as your garden.

Why should other people have to pick up your cat shit?!

WildfirePonie · 21/02/2021 15:01

^^I have an indoor cat and a catio. I would die if my cat was outside shitting in my neighbours garden!

Newname12 · 21/02/2021 15:02

I have neighbours who feed wildlife. As a consequence we get four times as much bird, fox, cat, hedgehog shit as we used to.

Who gets to clean that up for me Grin

BrownEyedBlonde · 21/02/2021 15:18

@Haveyouallgonequitemad if you read my original post you’ll notice I mentioned we don’t tell the neighbour if there’s cat shit in the garden, as annoying as it is. I will continue to use PSSSSSTTT method alongside water deterrent to make said cat scarper.

She is quite a beautiful cat and NDN knows we use our tried and trusted methods, helps I’ve been home a lot more too so I can be on the lookout so much more! So I’m being rather adult about it actually! Grin

Haveyouallgonequitemad · 21/02/2021 15:20

@BrownEyedBlonde well that's a relief then thank heavens for that

ElevenBells · 21/02/2021 15:35

Slightly off point but can cats that roam even really be counted as pets? My friends have cats that are out all the time, sometimes for days. They then get pissed off that their cat has taken a fancy to another household who is feeding it. I mean if a cat can go where it wants, eat where it wants and shit where it wants then what’s the difference between a cat and a hedgehog that you might leave food out for? And then owners get heartbroken if their cat is run over on a road but surely that’s somewhat of an inevitability - same as badgers, foxes any other roaming animal becoming roadkill?
Nothing against cats btw, Just don’t get how they’re very ‘pet like’.

RhubarbCrumbling · 21/02/2021 15:38

I look there are at least two cat poo’s to clean up. Two near neighbours have 4 cats each, plus many have at least one. Was a nightmare in pregnancy.

Never asked anyone to clean it up.

Devlesko · 21/02/2021 16:02

@ElevenBells

Slightly off point but can cats that roam even really be counted as pets? My friends have cats that are out all the time, sometimes for days. They then get pissed off that their cat has taken a fancy to another household who is feeding it. I mean if a cat can go where it wants, eat where it wants and shit where it wants then what’s the difference between a cat and a hedgehog that you might leave food out for? And then owners get heartbroken if their cat is run over on a road but surely that’s somewhat of an inevitability - same as badgers, foxes any other roaming animal becoming roadkill? Nothing against cats btw, Just don’t get how they’re very ‘pet like’.
I wish they weren't allowed as pets, for this reason. They are roamers and can't be contained, how can they be a pet. I wish them no harm, or any animal, but cats are really fury rodents.
gettingusedtothelimelight · 21/02/2021 16:21

@Hahaha88 Get an outside litter tray. We use one for ours and no problems with neighbours as they prefer to use their tray.

This is the one we have but think we got our from Amazon.

https://www.bitiba.co.uk/shop/catsaccessories/cattlitterboxes/covereddlittertrays/noo_filter/591571