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AIBU?

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Are we mean to MIL?

82 replies

CrispyLeaves · 17/02/2021 10:54

This is long so i'll try to be as accurate and concise as possible.

In many ways MIL is a very nice person and I'm conflicted over my feelings/ treatment towards her. Since being with her son, my DH, his relationship with her has fractured because I have been shocked at their relationship and have told him I don't think the way she behaves is correct.

The backstory is when I met DH about 15 years ago he was giving MIL a lot of money all the time. I am talking about a thousand a month and he wasn't a huge earner but almost all of his money was given to his mum. He was happy doing this but I believe it's because she manipulated him into it by saying things like she sacrificed so much when he was little etc. She was spending the money on holidays and cars, not essentials. I don't believe a parent should accept this - they should be encouraging their child to save and build their own life surely? She was also working full time as a school secretary so had an income. She has a daughter (my SIL) who lives overseas and I don't think she asks her for money.

Things got bad when she said she was struggling with her debts (about six months into our relationship) and DH sold his property to give her the money and move into rented accommodation himself. I told him I thought this was madness but he said she was going to lose her home and had to do it. She did pay off her debts and the rest went on holidays. He says that she told him she was keeping a large sum for him in her account - he then asked her for this back for a property deposit and she denied saying that and said all the money was gone.

I loved DH and wrestled with this as it made me resent MIL as I saw her as greedy and manipulative, yet she was always very nice to me. It's as if she genuinely believed that's what children should do for their parents. She didn't do any of this for her own parents by the way (sadly both have now passed) but I think a large part of it is that as a female she doesn't believe she should.

DH was furious with MIL as was I - she thinks she never did anything wrong as he offered to do all this- but I believe she manipulated him into it. DH then cut her off financially so stopped giving her money and taking her out and I said if we were to get married it had to stop. She now says he is mean with money, he chose to "help her" and she hasn't done anything wrong. She regularly tells us of how generous her friends sons are and says things like "he won't take a penny off his mum!"

It's not a cultural thing they are born in the UK. She now does strange little things like we will be walking past a coffee shop and she will ask him to buy her things - every time- it's like a power play she always needs him to be buying her something. She also thinks I am a controlling daughter in law and have cut her off cruelly. AIBU to say we can no longer give her any money? I resent even buying her a coffee now to be honest. DH now has a load of simmering anger towards her which if we weren't together probably wouldn't be there as I'm the one who pointed out that it was wrong - so he doesn't want to give her any more money but sometimes he will soften and say he feels sorry for her.

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anxiouscrazymum · 17/02/2021 11:04

I would go NC with her to be honest, this sounds like mental abuse and there is no way this will ever get better.
I think your DH is a saint but her may need some counselling to get over this and also understand why he feels like he needs to help her.
Good luck xx

Toddlerteaplease · 17/02/2021 11:17

He gave up his house to pay her debts. I'm not surprised he's angry.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 17/02/2021 11:26

Where has she got this idea from that grown sons support their working mother? If she was on mw I could understand it. But she let him sell his house to pay her debts?! Thats financial abuse.

Has dh had any counselling? Read any books? The decision to go LC or NC has to come from him really. If he thought that this was normal what else does he think is normal? How is your relationship with him?

Charm23 · 17/02/2021 11:26

Wow. I can't believe your DH sold his house to fund her debt!
How does your MIL expect your DH to have a life of his own if she wants him to spend all his money on her? If she can't see that what she did/is doing is wrong and very selfish then I would have to go NC. You and your DH deserve to live your life without paying for hers too.

YoComoManzanas · 17/02/2021 11:31

She's kind of treating her son like he's her husband or father. I wonder if her father was supporting her financially.
You are not wrong in pointing this out to your dh.
I would suggest to him some counselling of some sort to disentangle him from the guilt.
How disgusting she had him sell his house for her.

katy1213 · 17/02/2021 11:31

She wouldn't get a penny piece from me - ever again. But do you trust your husband to stand firm, especially as she gets older?

Dasher789 · 17/02/2021 11:33

wow the MIL sounds horrendous - YANBU to say no more money is given. i can't believe DH sold his house to pay of her debt?! is he easily led by her? i think NC or LC is the only way to go. i can't see that someone who was prepared to sell their house will find it easy to walk away though!! good luck.

oil0W0lio · 17/02/2021 11:34

My interpretation of this is that his 'primary bond' is with his mother, it sounds like a toxic and unhealthy kind of bond and I wonder if it was formed earlier in your partner's life when something traumatic happened and he had to step up and be the man of the House for his mother?
Or she is just very possessive and determined to capture him so that the fruits of his labours are permanently channeled towards her.
even though he resents her it may be very difficult for him to break the loyalty that he feels towards her

oil0W0lio · 17/02/2021 11:37

She will soon stop being nice to you if you block her access to her son's money
I reckon......

Cherrysoup · 17/02/2021 12:02

You need to ensure he’s not giving her money behind your back. He needs to stop, imagine what she’ll be like once she retires and has less disposable income! I would be reluctant to buy her coffee too. Does she ever get you anything?

HollowTalk · 17/02/2021 12:07

He was crazy not getting a share in her house if he put money into it.

How much do you reckon he's given her over the years?

2pinkginsplease · 17/02/2021 12:08

Omg what parent does this?

I’d have put a stop to it too, this is emotional abuse.d personally go NC.

No wonder he is so resentful.

SeptemberAlexandra · 17/02/2021 12:10

Awful behaviour. I’d never ask for a penny from any of my children. How on earth can a parent stand back and allow a child to sell their home to finance their spending?

Cocomarine · 17/02/2021 12:10

Don’t feel guilty. You’ve saved him a fortune, and even more resentment. If it hadn’t been you to help him put a stop to it, it would have been his next girlfriend, and if not her - well, you’ve saved him being dumped by her when she could no longer put up with it!

It’s up to him what he does about buying her coffee. Have you pointed out the power play? He needs to be aware of it. If he then decides to go along with it, that’s his look out. As long as it is only things like lunch.

Honestly though? Fuck her! So greedy. If you do continue seeing her, I would point out and laugh (well, sneer) at every single comment from her about money.

jessycake · 17/02/2021 12:11

I think you should give her the occasional treat , maybe take her on an occasional outing . You don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater , she will always be his mum warts and all , just set very firm boundries. She sounds like a needy child rather than an adult

SignsofSpring · 17/02/2021 12:28

I agree with everyone, how outrageous and selfish of her to make him sell his house, give her the money, and have nothing left to show for it after she lied she was keeping some for him. I'm guessing she exploited the fact that he didn't really know what others did in relation to money, and now he's found out that usually it is the other way round, parents giving their children money to buy houses and help them establish their family and future, he must feel very angry indeed.

I agree with whoever said he has to decide on their relationship going forward- if he wants to take her out and buy coffee, up to him, if he wants to never speak to her again, up to him, if he wants to buy her a Christmas present, up to him- but what you have to be clear about is that he's not to give substantial (and you may need to define this!) amounts out of your income together, which is needed to build your own future, to her.

It's just as well he met you, as someone else said, if he hadn't met you he'd have met someone else who would have enlightened him that this is not the norm. My family used to give my grandma a small sum every month to top up her tiny pension, and I think that's reasonable if it doesn't then massively disadvantage the existing household. To give away a house, and for her to accept it, outrageous!

billyt · 17/02/2021 12:30

jessycake, she certainly does not sound like a needy child. She sounds a greedy fucker.

And I certainly don't agree with putting up with things as ' she will always be his mum warts and all'. In her case, it sounds more like a threat that they'll never be free of her and her scrounging. Just because she's his mother is no reason to keep being taken for mugs. That's why NC is recommended often as just because people are 'blood' doesn't make them decent or honest.

I wouldn't give the lying, sponging woman another penny, not even a coffee. And as said upthread, just wait until she retires and the pleading gets worse......

justcannotwithyou · 17/02/2021 12:40

@jessycake

I think you should give her the occasional treat , maybe take her on an occasional outing . You don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater , she will always be his mum warts and all , just set very firm boundries. She sounds like a needy child rather than an adult
In what world does this woman deserve any treat from her son ever again? She made him sell his home to pay her debts fgs! How on earth is it acceptable to do that to someone just because you're "his mummy"? (And before you say you didn't say it was acceptable, saying they should give her treats because she's his mum, warts and all, is pretty much saying what she's done wasn't that bad and all is forgiven) A real mother would have been angry if her son brought that idiotic idea up and would never fleece her son for money for cars and holidays. What a ghastly woman.
babybunny123 · 17/02/2021 12:41

I would go NC, i could not bear to look at the woman. She isn't a loving Mum or MIL, she is a spoilt brat who wants all her own way without an ounce of conscience.

oil0W0lio · 17/02/2021 12:45

She has made a complete fool out of her own son, effected and then exploited his naivety, he's a pet that she keeps for her own amusement, a fawning little lap dog who turns out his pockets on demand

HighHeelBoots · 17/02/2021 12:46

She is a disgrace. I wouldn't give her another penny.

oil0W0lio · 17/02/2021 12:47

She owns him, he's her b1tch☹️

user1493413286 · 17/02/2021 12:49

That’s awful; in no way is anyone being mean to her

farandfew · 17/02/2021 13:11

She's batshit.

MyLittleOrangutan · 17/02/2021 13:11

She sounds greedy and selfish. I wouldn't her so much as a penny sweet after all that. Disgusting behaviour from her.

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