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Tried to help a friend and got shouted at

119 replies

Ytrigging · 14/02/2021 18:33

I have an old friend who has been struggling with relationships and her self esteem for a while. She has been relying on me quite heavily to get through it, for example calling most evenings and sometimes talking for hours. She once broke down in tears asking me why her current interest does not love her. Our lives are in quite different places, I live with my DH and we are expecting pfb in the summer. I think she comes to me because I have a different perspective to her other young single friends. We message everyday and speak on the phone most days. Today we had this conversation:

(No previous chat since yesterday)
Friend: Dating is the worst. Men are impossible.
Me: Are you ok? Did you speak to X or is this about someone else?
Friend: It's all of them!
Me: laughing emoji.
Friend: I've been thinking about my past. All men are bastards.
Friend: Except one.
Me: Who?
Friend: (The name of an ex boyfriend she dated for several years but they broke up 5+ years ago. He now lives with his wife and 2 children on a different continent).

We then switched to a phone call. I asked if she had been in contact with the ex today and whether that is helping her. She was pretty annoyed by my questions and insisted they're friends and he is a good person and she needs good friends now. I apologised for being judgemental and she snapped at me again. Then I asked if she is still in love with him. She yelled at me, told me it's none of my business, that wasn't what the conversation was about and then said she couldn't talk now and hung up.
I realise that I was extremely tactless to ask but I don't think it was an entirely foundationless assumption. Was I being unreasonable to think she might still love him? And, more importantly, was I being unreasonable to ask? I want to help her but I feel like we have the same conversation again and again and I don't know how to get out of it.

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Keeva2017 · 14/02/2021 18:36

She sounds exhausting. She wants to use you to moan at but if you deviate from the script in her head (endless and unfaltering agreement and support) it pisses her off.

Be glad of the break from her and take a step back.

Orchidflower1 · 14/02/2021 18:40

You’ve probably hit the nail on the head too.

Cheeseandlobster · 14/02/2021 18:40

Now is a great time to take a step back. You just won't have time for this shit once your baby is here. I would start to reduce contact now whatever the outcome of this as she does sound exhausting

PinkiOcelot · 14/02/2021 18:41

God that sounds exhausting. I would take a step back. You deserve an apology I think.

Playnoh · 14/02/2021 18:52

She probably doesn’t want you to solve her problems just to listen. Which is very hard to do when someone won’t help themselves!

N4ish · 14/02/2021 18:55

Sounds like she just wants to unload on you. Time to take a step back from the friendship.

SeasonFinale · 14/02/2021 18:58

She probably has come to the realisation that he was the one that got away. Exhausting as it is sometimes some people wantbto to listen and not offer solutions. A break for a while is probably for the best. If she messages take a view as to whether you want to be the sounding board or whether you are busy right now.

HTH1 · 14/02/2021 19:04

Time to take a break, she’s definitely a dementor.

Meowchickameowmeow · 14/02/2021 19:07

She sounds exhausting but you sound like you were stirring the shit pot. You don't seem like very good friends tbh.

happytoday73 · 14/02/2021 19:10

Well you obviously hit a nerve!

Id leave it...
Enjoy the silence.
Reset the relationship when she gets back in contact

Ytrigging · 14/02/2021 19:11

Thanks for the perspective everyone. I think I needed to hear it from someone else to feel like it was ok to back away from this friendship. I'm scared about losing contact with my young single friends and I think that could have been clouding my judgement.
Just for background, I have tried just being a sounding board and not offering any kind of input. We have had similar conversations several times per week since the summer. I was trying to break the cycle of having the same conversation this time and it was a disaster.

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flappityflippers1 · 14/02/2021 19:15

I suspect you’ve hit the nail bang on the head tbh.

She is also just offloading on to you from what I can gather on your post, which is a lot for one person to take every day.

As others have said, you won’t have the time, energy or patience once baby is born.

I would take the opportunity to step back now, and I think she owes you an apology.

Hernameisdeborah · 14/02/2021 19:16

I agree with the other posters, it sounds like it's time to step back. There isn't much you can say or do for someone who only wants to moan, rather than help themselves. It is so draining and exhausting, which is not something you need at the moment, and I think your friend sounds very selfish.

Beautiful3 · 14/02/2021 19:16

This sounds like hard work. I would step away from her now and avoid.

CSIblonde · 14/02/2021 19:18

You hit a nerve with her . She's prob idealised him. Theres a pattern she's stuck in there. She attracts men who don't treat her well, prob because she has low self esteem. I'd prob suggest Counselling . In a calmer moment I'd say " you seem to be stuck in a pattern with men that's making you unhappy . Do you think your self esteem is affecting your relationships & life in general? Maybe discussing that with someone would help give you some insight & strategies to help". Otherwise, you're allowed an opinion & a conversation is a two way thing. Just pouring it out, to vent, no input off you, isn't going to help.

AnExcellentWalker · 14/02/2021 19:19

PPs have it right, she's a dementor. She doesn't want anything except unending sympathy & agreement from you. It sounds exhausting & one-sided. I'd step back. See her temper tantrum as a blessing in disguise.

MrsBobDylan · 14/02/2021 19:33

This isn't a friendship. And if she behaves similarly with boyfriends it is entirely unsurprising that her relationships fail.

She is using you. She wants to talk at you, have you make sympathetic noises and tell her that all men are shits and they don't deserve her. It is their fault, not hers.

End this pretendship!

TwelvePaws · 14/02/2021 19:45

She sounds exhausting. She wants to use you to moan at but if you deviate from the script in her head (endless and unfaltering agreement and support) it pisses her off.

I think this is spot on. I’ve had a few ‘friends’ like this over the years. It’s all about them and it’s very draining.

Stovetopespresso · 14/02/2021 19:56

unless she rings and apologises in a while or helps you out if you need it i would cool it for a bit.
i get having single friends is nice if you are worried about losing that younger identity (welcome to parenthood!) but you will have a responsibility to your baby soon, and thats lots of fun too! much more meaningful than her stuck dull drama.
hope she feels better soon though, and moves on.

Krampusnolongerbabysits · 14/02/2021 19:59

I'd fuck her off, she is a bloody drain. A genuine friendship is like a decent joint account where both make similar deposits and withdrawals, not one person draining the entire account and expecting the other to fill it up without any complaint!

AccidentallyOnPurpose · 14/02/2021 20:07

She doesn't want help or advice.

She just want you to be her cheerleader for her moans ,how awesome she is,how shit men are . Repeat. Boost her self esteem, curse whatever new relationship that failed,repeat. She can't ever be in the wrong.

You've picked up today on her idolising this bloke and what they could've had or worse what relationship/friendship she plans to have with him and made it sound "wrong". Since she can't ever be wrong, it's now your fault.

Fuck that shit.

mnahmnah · 14/02/2021 20:10

You hit a nerve regarding the ex, which suggests her contact with him might be verging on inappropriate

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 14/02/2021 20:13

what do you get from the "friendship"?
would you lean on her if you had a problem?

Draw back and relish the peace

1Morewineplease · 14/02/2021 20:21

That you message/speak every day is a bit unhealthy. However that's just my opinion.
I think that she's running her day to day life past you , every for your opinions and to back her up.
Personally, I think that you ought to back away. She is too reliant on you and you don't need this level of neediness.
Just saying.

BonnieDundee · 14/02/2021 20:22

How can you be bothered listening to that all the time. You must have the patience of a saint