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Tried to help a friend and got shouted at

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Ytrigging · 14/02/2021 18:33

I have an old friend who has been struggling with relationships and her self esteem for a while. She has been relying on me quite heavily to get through it, for example calling most evenings and sometimes talking for hours. She once broke down in tears asking me why her current interest does not love her. Our lives are in quite different places, I live with my DH and we are expecting pfb in the summer. I think she comes to me because I have a different perspective to her other young single friends. We message everyday and speak on the phone most days. Today we had this conversation:

(No previous chat since yesterday)
Friend: Dating is the worst. Men are impossible.
Me: Are you ok? Did you speak to X or is this about someone else?
Friend: It's all of them!
Me: laughing emoji.
Friend: I've been thinking about my past. All men are bastards.
Friend: Except one.
Me: Who?
Friend: (The name of an ex boyfriend she dated for several years but they broke up 5+ years ago. He now lives with his wife and 2 children on a different continent).

We then switched to a phone call. I asked if she had been in contact with the ex today and whether that is helping her. She was pretty annoyed by my questions and insisted they're friends and he is a good person and she needs good friends now. I apologised for being judgemental and she snapped at me again. Then I asked if she is still in love with him. She yelled at me, told me it's none of my business, that wasn't what the conversation was about and then said she couldn't talk now and hung up.
I realise that I was extremely tactless to ask but I don't think it was an entirely foundationless assumption. Was I being unreasonable to think she might still love him? And, more importantly, was I being unreasonable to ask? I want to help her but I feel like we have the same conversation again and again and I don't know how to get out of it.

OP posts:
SunshineCake · 17/02/2021 13:09

The no going back comment is the one about your child. That would be it for me. No matter what the history and my wanting a friend. Enjoy the rest of your peaceful pregnancy.

Livingtothefull · 17/02/2021 13:10

Is it just me who believes that a decent person does not needlessly upset a pregnant woman? She has shown by her actions that she has no regard for your wellbeing and you really are well rid of her.

'And she concluded by saying she feels sorry for my unborn child'. That is just disgusting. I am so sorry OP.

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 17/02/2021 13:21

You did nothing wrong. A person cannot expect to dictate all the terms of a conversation - if she was constantly using you like an unpaid counsellor, you were more than entitled to ask her questions and give your opinion. Conversations are two way!
Having seen your update, she sounds totally bat shit. I'm surprised your husband hasn't commented on the amount of time she was sucking out of your life - if my husband was constantly on the phone every night, I wouldn't be happy. She has stolen so much of your family time and emotional energy.
There's no going back from this now - she's revealed what she's really like and as upset as you feel now, it's better for you in the long run that you've found out how she really sees you and you can move on without feeling responsibility for her.
It does feel horrible when this happens though Flowers

Yoshinori · 17/02/2021 13:33

She sounds absolutely horrific!

Emeraldshamrock · 17/02/2021 13:37

Tell her get stuffed or pay for counselling I'm all for helping a friend in need but someone who is often in need is a burden.

LeilaDarling · 17/02/2021 13:38

Had a “friend” just like her that drained me - she finally deviated from the pattern of pandering to her and her problems and opinions - she turned on me.... that was nearly 2 years ago and the peace it has brought me is immense plus it opened the doors to new, healthy friendships with like minded people.

B3ttyBoop · 17/02/2021 13:46

I just read your update, that's grim, OP. You don't need this, you have enough to think about. Do keep a record of those messages, if she tries stirring the pot then you can provide proof it's her, not you.

Porridgeoat · 17/02/2021 13:53

Awful. Good decision op

MsTSwift · 17/02/2021 14:57

Op you will meet much nicer friends through having a child. To be honest the friends I have met through having children are more fun and more “me” than my pre children friends. Don’t be upset it’s not you it’s her.

happytoday73 · 17/02/2021 15:59

Well OP your update is shocking. I'm glad you've blocked her.... I dread to think what the other messages said.
Honestly that'd be it for me.....
I wish you luck...

Hernameisdeborah · 17/02/2021 16:56

@pictish I used to be the same! I'd convince myself I was doing a good and kind thing by allowing a former friend of mine, who sounds just like the OP's, to talk it all out. Of course it did no good. She never seemed to get happier, yet she ended up taking over my life. OP, if she's anything like my former friend, she will eventually be back in touch with a sad message about wanting to be in contact, but she will not say sorry or acknowledge she's done anything wrong. It's great that you got rid of her before a time when you'll need to focus your attention on far more important things.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 17/02/2021 17:01

It took me til I was into my 30s to slack off these 'friends'. I wanted to be a decent, supportive friend... But I realised I was there just to be talked at, endless repetitive conversations with a changing faces of the many hopeless/cheating/abusive men in these 'friends' lives...

I dumped one of them when she didn't contact me when my sibling suddenly died... When I tackled her... She said - I've been so busy with my new bloke....

Reader I'd seen her through many awful men, deaths, pining over unsuitable men...

After that, I'm much more selective who I give my attention to... It has to be equal over time

AdultierAdult · 17/02/2021 17:03

Well that got crazy incredibly quickly. She's done you a favour, albeit in an incredibly deranged way.

billy1966 · 17/02/2021 17:29

@pictish

Nailed it.
So true.

It's a great joy as I got older to ruthlessly rid myself of those that were in my ear too much.
The relief was fxxking enormous and it is to my lasting regret I didn't do it earlier.

In my case they were nice women but just talked about themselves endlessly and I ended up having nothing to say as I was just an earhole.
I was too busy in my life to give them my precious down time with several young children.

OP,
She is having a major tantrum, like a spoiled brat.
She will calm down though and could very well try and contact you again.
Don't ever entertain her.
Savour your peace.

Try not to upset yourself too much.
This is actually a happy day.Flowers🥳

Playnoh · 17/02/2021 18:24

That went from zero to crazy! You’re well rid OP.

Enough4me · 17/02/2021 21:44

You were her emotional punchbag and when you stepped back she really tried to hit harder. I expect in a week or two you'll have a, 'sorry I was stressed' message through your door. Followed later by flowers. Then messages about how much the friendship was special.

From personal experience if this happens ignore it all, life is better with genuine people in it!

JamieFrasersAuntie · 17/02/2021 23:03

Google the drama triangle.

It's typical that the rescuer eventually becomes the persecuter and ultimately the victim.

This is your out. I wouldn't engage her again.

TheChip · 17/02/2021 23:09

Wow. She sounds awful. I bet she is trying to engage with this ex and feels incredibly guilty for it and instead of addressing her wrong doings, she has lashed out at you.
Good on you for blocking her. No need for her to behave like that towards you for the simple questions you asked. She led you to them!

MyOtherProfile · 18/02/2021 09:42

Wow!
Do you have any mutual friends? I hope not because I dread to think what rubbish she would say to them.

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