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VivienScott · 10/02/2021 09:19

My mother is a narcissist and was horribly emotionally a to a certain extent physically abusive towards me as a child. The physical stuff only stopped when I hit her back as a teenager (I’m not proud of that by the way, but it did put an end to it)
I’ve been in therapy to come to terms with this and also a large family argument that happened over Xmas. Since then my mum has pestered me weekly by text and been quite abusive when I’ve not responded how she wants, e.g she asked if I’d “stopped sulking yet” when I responded that I wasn’t sulking I was in therapy and processing things, she responded that I was being a spoilt cow trying to ruin everything.
Any contact with her leaves me rattled for days and sets back my recovery, even though I know she’s in the wrong, so I need to go no contact and block her for my own sanity.
Has anyone who’s done this got any advice on how to get through it or any experience they can share?

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Sometimes123 · 10/02/2021 20:46

"there is a grieving process. Grieving for the parent you never had."

I absolutely agree with this statement. I have been grieving all my life, so when I finally made the decision to go NC (following some therapy) it felt that it was the beginning of the end of my grief.

My mother played the 'I don't know what I've done' card, playing the victim to the rest of the family, stating that I have mental health "issues" (funny how so many people who go NC are labelled as being unwell.) However, I don't mind the label, because for the first time in a long time I feel free.

NC should never be impulsive though. It's scary and I remember the day after I made the decision, I felt very strange. I remember walking down the street numbly....but I have never once regretted my decision. My mother was quite vile on the telephone in the weeks following my decision, which only worked to affirm that I had done the right thing. She went from being really sweet, to being very scary when she realised that this was 'it.' It helped me to write her a letter (that I never posted, but I kept it tucked away.) Whilst I busied myself preparing for a future without the drama, she started priming the family, clawing in any bit of sympathy she can get. I have never spoken a word to any of them about her. I didnt want to get dragged into the 'he said, she said' business. However I figured that if they chose to believe her, then they really didnt know the extent of the abuse directed towards me as a child, and if they don't know about it...I didnt want to be the one to tell them. After all, what would be the point? So over the years I have let them all slip away.

I fear 'triggers' though, such as birthdays and Christmas and I don't think the fear of her attempting contact will go away. I dont suppose it will until I move.

In my own experience I was ashamed at first by going NC, because I thought it was a taboo. But now I realise that I shouldn't have worried. I feel less alone now than I ever did with her in my life.

I wish you all the best OPFlowers

NelAntartic · 10/02/2021 21:12

Also on the brink OP. Perhaps visit or at the very least, read the 'Stately Homes' threads over in relationships. They help.

NC decisions are though about and agonised over for an awful long time. They aren't knee jerk decisions made in anger. We do grieve the parents we should have had and dealing with the guilt of stepping out of that son/daughter role is incredibly hard because we have FOG (fear, obligation, guilt) instilled so well.

My mother and older brother have definite personality disorders that made them cruel towards me as a child. Emotional, physical and sexual abuse. I've hidden it for years from everyone and tried to manage DM's addictive behaviour but she's a person who won't help herself. Each hospital visit is traumatic and I'm the idiot who does the running around and picking up of pieces.

What you read here, in any of our posts is the tip of the iceberg. To those who judge, I can only imagine that you've had a normal upbringing that wasn't scarred by awful memories.

I'd give anything to have had a normal upbringing.

nevernotstruggling · 10/02/2021 21:28

@dottypotter

Nobody knows whether they are unfit to parent. Anyway even if you cut off from your parents it's still not perfect you then haven't got any parents. Your just swapping one problem for another. Cutting parents off just leads to other problems.
I find this post very offensive.
Snowsnowglorioussnow · 10/02/2021 21:29

I think in the olden days when people had loads of dc it would be far more common not to see so much of parents...

Or not be sooo close to them all the time.

Going nc however is such a big move that almost goes agaisnt all our instinct and certainly society....

It's never something people do lightly. It's very much something that's a last resort. If people constantly make you feel bad... Put you down.. Never ever make you smile or feel good and don't give anything positive... Then it's hard to keep in contact!

Snowsnowglorioussnow · 10/02/2021 21:35

French boule that's exactly what my in laws did to dh, said he had mental health issues, he doesn't... Did the davro thing and ostracised him...

I thought but he is supposed to be '' unwell '' but you're happy seeing him cut out?
Not what loving people do...

Idratherberude · 10/02/2021 21:40

7 years, it was the best choice I ever made.
Luckily for me, I moved house at the same time, which I recommend.

rubbishonthetelly · 10/02/2021 22:09

@dottypotter

'Anyway even if you cut off from your parents it's still not perfect you then havent got any parents...'

My father was a colossal cunt. He made it very clear I was the black sheep of the family when I was growing up. Parents divorced when I was in infant school. Stealing our pocket money for his fags and the bookies, beating me back and blue when I asked for it, beating me black and blue because my school report wasnt perfect, dressing us in clothes and shoes that were patently unsuitable. I decided when I was 12 that he wasnt a part of my life anymore.
Having to have a conversation with my kids school about credible threats to kidnap my dc was... interesting. Despite the non-mol order I had out naming him.
Anyway the bastard died 2018, and you can bet I fucking celebrated. As did my siblings. I made a very large donation to a charity that he would have absolutely hated in his name.

So despite what you might think, life without him is pretty perfect thanks and I am very much happier without him in my life.

Missingthebridegene · 10/02/2021 22:11

I went NC with my dad almost two years ago. The relief I felt was immense. I'm really happy with my decision and feel so much better knowing I don't have to spend time with him. It was tricky initially with some family members trying to persuade me to sort things out. I've also had to see him at a couple of family events (although lock down has helped!) but managed to discretely avoid without putting anyone else in an uncomfortable position x good luck OP-just do whatever you need to do to look after yourself x

Mittens030869 · 10/02/2021 22:22

dottypotter
Nobody knows whether they are unfit to parent. Anyway even if you cut off from your parents it's still not perfect you then haven't got any parents. Your just swapping one problem for another.
Cutting parents off just leads to other problems.

I think I can say for sure that my F wasn’t fit to be a parent, having sexually abused my DSis and me when we were growing up. Thankfully he’s dead now.

My DM failed to protect us, and to an extent was an enabler in that she knew that our F used to smack us too hard and did nothing to stop that, but I accept that she didn’t know about the SA. I also understand now that she was a victim of coercive control, accusations of cheating (the irony) and EA.

So I do still have some limited contact with her, and my DDs (11 and 8) have a relationship with their Granny. This is possible because my F is no longer around (he died 23 years ago).

It really isn’t about parents ‘not being perfect’; that statement on its own shows that you have no idea at all.

follygirl · 10/02/2021 22:47

My dh has a narcissist mother and a father who enables her behaviour.

We had a falling out in June 2019 when I couldn't bite my tongue anymore when their usual bs started. They moan they don't see our kids but then don't talk to them when they do see them. Moan that they don't know what to do with them but then ignore our suggestions (baking etc) and then moan again about not seeing them.

Anyway I had had enough and we had a massive row. Since then I've not seen them and dh and our kids have seen them once.
Our kids aren't bothered and don't consider this a loss.

What has been disappointing has been that his siblings have taken sides and in his case 2 have sided with the parents and 1 is neutral.

I feel deliriously happy at the thought of not seeing them but I know my dh finds it difficult although is relieved that it's happened.

My dh has been massively affected by his childhood. Has been depressed for most of his life although he's getting better thanks to ad and his counsellor. He drinks too much, has very low self-esteem, has panic attacks when he's bad and catastrophises everything which must be exhausting. He may not have been physically or sexually abused but his childhood has left deep scars and he has no idea of what a normal functioning, loving family looks like. Well, apart from the one we've created with the 4 of us.

Going NC with his toxic parents is giving him some peace.

tsmainsqueeze · 10/02/2021 23:24

@dottypotter

Nobody knows whether they are unfit to parent. Anyway even if you cut off from your parents it's still not perfect you then haven't got any parents. Your just swapping one problem for another. Cutting parents off just leads to other problems.
Your post is really disrespectful to everyone who has been abused .
LuvMyBoyz · 11/02/2021 06:41

I went LC with my father as soon as my mother finally threw him over. I tried to let my DC have some sort of limited relationship with him but visits became fewer and fewer because I couldn’t handle the bs each time. I did realise, however, that he was just being him. He thought he was normal. So I left him to it.

Eeeeeeeeeeeek · 11/02/2021 09:11

@dottypotter

Nobody knows whether they are unfit to parent. Anyway even if you cut off from your parents it's still not perfect you then haven't got any parents. Your just swapping one problem for another. Cutting parents off just leads to other problems.
You have just shown your total ignorance, your attitude is precisely why people are reluctant to speak openly about it. Reread the thread today then sit and have a think Your comments are very hurtful
trixies · 11/02/2021 11:07

@Eeeeeeeeeeeek Hear hear. I was absolutely gutted to read that response to what I'd said.

Mittens030869 · 11/02/2021 11:20

This poster has a habit of popping up on threads like this to minimise what others are saying about toxic family relationships. It seems that in her mind at least there's never a good reason for cutting contact with parents.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/02/2021 11:31

@dottypotter

Nobody knows whether they are unfit to parent. Anyway even if you cut off from your parents it's still not perfect you then haven't got any parents. Your just swapping one problem for another. Cutting parents off just leads to other problems.
Again, dotty?

@dottypotter My DSis used to think like that! She cut me off because she thought I was being unfair to our DPs. I have been very LC for about 40 years. She supported them.

About 10 years ago, at the end of her tether and totally freaked out by what was happening to her, DSis came to me in tears. I hadn't seen or spoken to her in 20 years, at her insistence. It turns out that DPs had been fleecing her for all that time. Living for free at her expense, took upwards of £20K directly from her, without her knowledge (I think much more was involved but will probably never kow for sure). DF was emotionally blackmailing her, still is. She is in her 50s and has been left high and dry by parents who just saw her as a meal ticket, eptied her bank account and took a substantial insurance payout via fraud (which she doesn't feel she can report).

My father is a con man and a thief - he steals, sorry borrows from family and makes out he is doing everyone a favour taking their money. DM just sits and says nothing... gets a bit upset of questioned and has physically attacked DSis for insisting on some answers!

Now... when I cut them off I also lost the money sucking leeches from my life. What other problem do you think I gained that wasn't well worth it?

Some peeople just are not nice. Becoming parents doesn't change that!

OhTinnitus · 11/02/2021 11:32

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trixies · 11/02/2021 11:48

@OhTinnitus I related to this post more than any other on the thread. I'm so sorry for what you've been through, and I hope that you can heal. Flowers

AmandaHoldensLips · 11/02/2021 11:53

@FrenchBoule has it absolutely spot on.

Going NC is the hardest thing. I don't have anything to do with any of my Family Of Origin now, and I don't regret it for one second.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/02/2021 12:16

@OhTinnitus I'm swinging between fleeting moments of emotional agony and otherwise complete numbness.

I remember that. To be honest it tries sneaking back in every now and then and I have a wobble.

But DH and I have an arrangment. I give him a shake if he has a wobble re his family and he does the same fror me and mine. We are pretty ruthless about each other's family! It doesn't competely disappear, but you will cope better if you can say it out loud whenever needed.

Which is why I type or say out loud "My father is a con man and a thief" whenever necessary.

Sadly I am still finding it hard to blame my mother in the same way. I still see her as surrendered rather than complicit. Though I am fully aware that she is wholly complicit! DSis helps me with that one!

Good luck indentifying your own much needed support Flowers

greybluegreen · 11/02/2021 12:25

I'm no contact with my family. My dad was an abusive alcoholic and my mum was physically and emotionally abusive. I'm the family scapegoat which means that I'm the family punchbag. I can do absolutely no right whatsoever in my family's eyes.

I have been suicidal due to hounding and harassment from my family and it drove me to have a breakdown. They are relentlessly cruel and abusive. I tried my best to stay in contact and be kind but nothing I did stopped the way they treated me. I went no contact for my own protection.

People who say that things can be worked out or 'they're you're parents' need to be shut down and ignored. They have no idea what has driven you to take the action you have done and how difficult that decision is to take. I can't get back in contact with my family as they are too abusive, they were destroying me.

It's a very difficult decision to make OP and I suggest if you're going to do it to get some support through therapy.

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