Midwives told to stop using terms such as 'breastfeeding' and 'breastmilk'

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because it’s not gender inclusive language, I believe with particular reference to the transexual debate.

This is at Brighton and Sussex nhs trust btw, good to know NHS money is being spent wisely btw, poring over the “incorrect” use of language.

The word “mother” apparently should not be used on its own; instead “mother or birthing parent” (um, isn’t that a mother?).

Breast milk and breastfeeding is to be replace by “breast/chest milk” or “milk from the feeding parent”. “Woman” should be replaced with “woman or person”.

Gobsmacked.

Until such a day that trans women can give birth, which will be by some artificial alterations/reductions/insertions to their bodies (as they were born male), it is WOMEN that give birth and this word should be used. One one hand trans women want special recognition and rights and yet they also say they are women. Which one is it?

Until they get ignored and talked over and pushed aside and told to ‘be kind’ and put everyone else’s feelings first, transwomen cannot claim an authentic female experience (and tbf until their bodies have the same set of biological functions still not)

Apart from the one case I'm aware of in the UK, how many other transmen have given birth? And how do they manage their dysphoria - surely such a uniquely female experience as giving birth would be intolerable for them?

@Impatiens

Apart from the one case I'm aware of in the UK, how many other transmen have given birth? And how do they manage their dysphoria - surely such a uniquely female experience as giving birth would be intolerable for them?

Not clear, which raises questions about why this is part of a general policy.

I’m worried that it’s part of a general assumption that of course young women should feel dysphoric about their bodies to the extent that they find neutral words uncomfortable. This is ideology, not inclusivity.

Looking at what the trust have said - that ‘chest feeding’ is gender neutral, they really don’t appear to have thought about what words mean.

They're pandering idiots is what they are

This is ideology, not inclusivity.

Exactly.

And any other argument aside, 'chest feeding' is a totally grotesque use of words.

It's not just about gender inclusivity I personally as a Woman have never agreed with breast feeding, as to exclude bottle feeding is absurd.

So R4 now - only half listening.

Some person on there.m saying that ‘chest feeding’ is all porkie pies... P-news person I think... so did we imagine it then?

@gardenbird48

Until they get ignored and talked over and pushed aside and told to ‘be kind’ and put everyone else’s feelings first, transwomen cannot claim an authentic female experience (and tbf until their bodies have the same set of biological functions still not)

Yep yep yep

Wondering if I now should say I had chest cancer instead of breast cancer. And, if so, what on earth we should call ovarian cancer.

@OneInEight

Wondering if I now should say I had chest cancer instead of breast cancer. And, if so, what on earth we should call ovarian cancer.

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I came to comment exactly this.

"Doctor! I have a terrible pain in my chest!"

"Come straight to A&E"

versus

"Doctor! I have a terrible pain in my breast!"

"Here's some antibiotics. It'll be mastitis."

Liquorishtoffee which programme was that?

Must have been the morning show - sometime before 7:30 (sorry I can’t be more precise).

Oh ffs. Erosion of women hear we come.