Can we take a vote.....who will be following lockdown measures after May?

[DuchessofHastings1]

There was a thread in Coronavirus but I wanted to do a vote to see actual numbers.

Vaccine roll out has been impressive. Our government seem to be digging out of the hole they got us in.
The over 50s (who count for 99%) of Covid deaths and the majority of hospital admissions will be vaccinated by end of May.

Who will be sticking to the rules once the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated?

YANBU - NO
YABU - YES

I have a clinically vulnerable child under 16, so she won't be vaccinated.

We'll see when we get there, there's no way of knowing now.

You realise it’s not just about the people dying @DuchessofHastings1? The hospitals will be flooded with people needing basic care like oxygen because they are struggling to breath? Where do we find beds for them? The nation really needs to be immunised and herd immunity established , while in the background we are slowly but carefully opening things up as opposed to let it rip again and facing a fourth wave. The borders need an airtight Coronavirus controls too which is not really happening now.

I really don't get the point of the question? Until we know what restrictions will be in place in May (and what they are reaction to) how can anyone say what they will and won't do?

Besides, if restrictions are in place, surely they will be there for a reason? I don't think this gov has handled the crisis well at all and they have erred in the side of not being restrictive enough, so I'd hazard a guess that any restrictions would be on the lighter side of what's prudent, even more reason to follow them.

I’m generally happy to stick to proportionate rules i.e if it’s rule of 6 in the summer and there are few deaths and have been for weeks etc then fair enough.

But not continuing this current level of lockdown. I’d break it to hug my mum.

Like others have said, I won't be going out of the way to break rules, but I will be a) seeing close friends and family outdoors if they want to regardless of what rules are in place, and b) I will not be wearing a mask if it's hot and uncomfortable unless somewhere is very crowded.

I expect the rules to be relaxed to a level I can deal with. I hope so anyway

Do we all cut our lives off incase there mutations? What if theres several of them? Does this go on for several years then?

SAGE would love that and if they have their way, yes.

Covid is having a massive knock on effect to other NHS services. Just because fewer people will die doesn't mean people won't need hospital treatment. There are so many people who have had operations and other treatments put off who are muddling along in pain, scared, unable to work etc. The longer covid goes on the longer it will take to clear the back log and people will die waiting.

Pointless question. We don't know what the rules will be in May.

If we have harsh restrictions come may, lockdown or tiers 3 and 4, will anyone be sticking to it? Didn't realise it was that hard of a question sorry

What's the point of the question though? Of what use are answers to a hypothetical queation about something that no one can predict?

What will the rules be? Then I can answer.
I think we need to keep mask wearing, distancing from strangers, big events closed so I will keep doing that.
Never see one other household of friends/ family, never let DS have a play date or sleepover, never go out for a meal or on a (UK) holiday, never go swimming or for a look around the shops until there’s no more Covid. I won’t do that (although some of it depends on it being open!).

I think restrictions will be lifting then, I expect we'll be allowed to mix outside (more than 2 people!), maybe 1 other household indoors? Id be very surprised if we were still in lockdown like now

Fucking jesus of nazareth.

Of course it's a hypothetical question. You dont have to answer or comment.

The narrative from the start by the government was for the vaccine to get us back to normality. Johnson said this numerous times. We have now have a vaccine where over 50s will be vaccinated. Based on that, would u still live in a lockdown YES I DONT KNOW THAT YES I DONT KNOW WHAT THE RULES WILL BE HENCE IT BEING A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION Yet the goal posts keep moving.

17:36TinaYouFatLard

You do realise those vaccines have only been tested against these variants? You can't bank on it being the same for all variants - don't think it's scaremongering to point out that we don't know what mutations will come next and that therefore how the vaccines cope is also unknown.

It's going to be like the flu. Constant mutations, regular boosters based on the "strain of the day" for high risk groups so they don't clog up the NHS. And just like the flu, that will be fine once we've got hospital numbers and transmission rates down. But we're not there yet. Get more people immunised against the main strain now and bring numbers back towards normal and I'm sure rules will be relaxed. But let's not screw it up out of "I know best" because our numbers clearly show that we don't!

Nominating a month in which to start ‘breaking rules’ is meaningless. It depends on the situation in May and whether other people want to break the rules with you. I certainly hope things will be a lot freer by then, even if there are still restrictions.

Yes. I'll be sticking to the rules. If things are closed how are people supposed to break the rules even if they wanted to?

I wouldn't want to risk anyone's health by visiting them if the risk is high and I don't want to risk my own health either.

I'm a rule follower so will probably follow the rules

@shinynewapple2021

But what is the point winding people up with the idea there may still be harsh restrictions when none of us knows .

You sound disappointed that people have given sensible, thought out answers rather than hyperbole.

Because I want hyperbole and not thought out answers. It's a purely hypothetical question.

I don't have government inside information and I know you lot dont have crystal balls.
We don't know what's happening May.

I'm asking if we are in a lockdown in May, would people still stick to the rules given the government have said from the get word go the vaccine was the answer to all our prayers.

breathes and takes a sip

Presumably there won’t be such stringent rules by then because we will have vaccinated all the elderly and at risk people

Kind of a stupid question really

I get what you are saying OP. The goalposts keep changing and I am thoroughly fed up now. No, I fucking wont be sticking to the rules come May if my area is in tier 3/4. I will be seeing family and having them in my house.

Once the people who are most likely to be hospitalised have been vaccinated there is no need to lockdown the rest of us. We cannot live like this forever.

I don’t get posts like these because I can’t go to work or the pub /hairdressers etc because they are shut . As in seeing people well I can’t unless they agree and I’m not aware of anyone that would . You could argue I’m not as strict at following the rules as the first lockdown. I’m not mixing households or anything but in the first Iockdown would only leave the house once a day for exercise and approx once a week to shop but now I go out practically every other day if I need to and exercise whenever and however long I want to .
I feel we are pissing against the wind here with the rules the government can’t be arsed protecting the borders a year later but wants us all locked away . So yeah I suppose I agree but I do think by May things will be relaxed anyway .

IF there’s lockdown because the numbers infected are still sky high and people are still dying in large numbers and the nhs in crisis then yes. I’ll follow it.

But you seem to be suggesting that we might be in lockdown with no actual deaths to justify it. In that case I wouldn’t obey but tbh I can’t see for the life of my why the govt would continue this economic crippling for no reason.

No to any limits placed on socialising, no to any rules placed on being unable to leave your home for anything other than exercise or essential purposes. Not much I can do if everywhere is shut, but absolutely will not be following any guidance.

What do you want me to do? Hold the pub landlord hostage and force him to open up, and the band to play, and my mates to attend.

All after storming my way into Primark for a spot of shopping?

Yes.

The government are very tardy when it comes to introducing restrictions, imo they're generally too little and too late, so I think it highly unlikely that they'd order another lockdown or continue with this one unless things were very serious.

And being vaccinated only reduces the severity of symptoms, it doesn't prevent transmission. I'm having my second vaccination on 17 March, but I'm not going to go gadding about just because I'm not likely to end up in hospital, and end up blocking a bed that's needed by someone else, because I'm not a selfish cunt, frankly.

I may well go completely loopy before then though. Coping with a bereavement during lockdown is really hard, and I've only seen my support bubble once this year. Zoom and phone calls are all very well, but it's no substitute for seeing people F2F.