To use the word "guys" to refer to people

[AliceAbsolum]

When referring to a mix of gendered people is there anything wrong with saying:

"Hey guys"

"Nice one guys"

"Guys, shall we catch up soon"?

Is it sexist against women? I don't know what opinion to have, so wise vipers please tell me your thoughts.

Personally, I do not care. Although you will get trans people say it triggers them.

Calling a group of mixed sex people 'guys' is fine.

Just as it's OK to call women over 18 'girls...' Bit weird if they're over 50, but women up to that age yes.

I didnt have a problem with it (woman). Then a female colleague challenged the men in a meeting who'd used the phrase by saying "what would you say if I asked how many guys you've slept with?". Made me think and now I try not to use it but occasionally do...

I’d say it but then I am extremely uncool so!

Doesn’t seem gendered to me just a little old school (makes me think of friends).

I’m over 50 and I’m still a girl 😉

I always thought it an American term we've adopted.
But it also makes me think of Brendan from Coach Trip....Right, guys.....so it makes me laugh.

I used that phrase a lot and don't mean anything sexist by it.

However I did get told off the other day in the office for using the word "draftsman"...

No, to me 'guys' are scarecrowy type things used to extract money from people in the street to buy fireworks.

Apparently a lot of YouTubers start their films with ‘hi guys’.

I think it has become thought of as genderless which is why most people (including women) are ok with it. But think about it, it's not genderless is it? If we're saying 'guys and girls' means 'men and women', then saying guys to a group of year 1 children on a Google classroom is (probably unconsciously) telling them all that guys = neutral/standard and it's understood therefore that male is to be assumed unless there's a particular 'feminine' trait e.g. bows in hair, lipstick, skirt, to indicate that this one's female! Same thing as assuming all animals are male unless specifically told otherwise. The teddy or the dog in the story has always a boy unless it has eyelashes or a pink bow or something. Sorry but it's true. Guys does not equal a group of men and women or girls and boys. I hate hearing it on CBeebies and used by my DSs' teachers.

I don't see a problem with it. Some people at work are trying to get people to move away from gendered words so I tend to avoid it in case it causes offense. I'm not offended by it personally.
When people use phrases like 'Hey chaps' when talking to a mixed gender group though, I tend to think they are taking the mickey or trying to annoy the women in the group.

Fine with me - I don't think of it as a gendered term.

@DinosaurDiana

I’m over 50 and I’m still a girl 😉

If you said any of those things in the op to me, I'd think you were a bit of a dickhead and also used corporate bullshit speak, too.

But I wouldn't be gender offended or whatever bollocks its called now.

I use 'guys' to refer to a group of women, a group of men, or a mixed group.

What I really hate is when people say "omg 'guys' is so sexist and not at all inclusive. Use 'folks' instead".

Happens all the bloody time in my industry.

It makes me cringe. Don’t like it, can’t tell you why, I don’t know, I just know that I bloody hate it.

I don’t like it, and would never use it.

“Did you see that guy at the bus stop?” Would never be about a woman. Guys means men. Using it for a mixed group means that the default sex is male.

But, I also hate being referred to as a girl, so I guess I’m all that is wrong in the world.

I moved to the States as a young kid and lived there for a few years. Iy was common parlance there and I picked it up.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest all these years later, probably for that reason, and I consider myself a fierce feminist.

I don't think it's gendered. I think it's more sexist to think it's gendered.

I do use it, but usually with kids rather than adults. It's ok generally.

*It

Also, I think we have far more important battles in feminism than this.

It’s a bit annoying but I don’t find it sexist. My 6-year-old has just started addressing us as “guys”.

You can't go wrong with 'everyone'

It's fine. But it does remind me of the shite my DD watches on YouTube.
'What's up Guuuuuuuuys!'

Anyway about the fireworks..?