Actresses - Feel so cross - ruined by plastic surgery

[Thisisnotreallymyname]

Feel so sad - been watching TV and why is it that women ( in the main ) feel the need to absolutely ruin their faces with fillers, Botox, face lifts, to the point where they look deformed, or like they are wearing shiny masks.
Felicity Kendal last night on Graham Norton, Fern Britton on Mastermind, Sally Thomsett on Pointless Celeb........
Do they not see what we see when they look in the mirror ?
I’ve nothing against PSurgery, but my God, please know when to stop !

IABU - they look fine
IANBU -they look awful .

Felicity Kendal was such a naturally pretty woman. I think she would've aged beautifully if she'd left well alone.
I think Botox and filler works wonders if done right and early enough, say around 40. I think after 60 if you're really bothered then a good lower face and neck lift can work wonders. I think it's jowls that are very aging not lines.

Sorry may be Reed.

@SmidgenofaPigeon
It's not about bitching about women at all. It's about women who feel the need to look youthful and have endless invasive surgery in order to look good enough to be chosen for roles, yet their surgery has left them looking a bit embarrassing as it's gone too far.

Well it’s their life and they can do as they please with their own face. They’re damned if they do and dammed if they don’t! You saying you think they look bad is not going to help anyone is it- imagine someone constantly criticising the choices you make about your own body

Jennifer Aniston

Yes the culture that encourages it is bad too.

I have naturally quite pronounced, pouty lips. I was relentlessly bullied at school by one particular girl who told me how ugly I was and called me fish lips. Now I get complimented on my lips and asked him much filler I’ve had. The bully has now also paid money to have someone inject gunk into her lips to make them far bigger than mine. She looks ridiculous and I always deliberately have a little snigger if I pass her on the street. Petty I know, but she made my school life a misery. It’s strange how fashions change.

@Thisisnotreallymyname

I don’t think I’m strange at all feeling cross. I’m annoyed it’s mostly women that feel the need to be ever youthful, yet men tend to be allowed to age and they become “ distinguished “ “ characterful “ etc.

Why are you cross with the actors? They are victims of a society that treats older women like shit. You're blaming them for the sexism they experience.

@Thisisnotreallymyname

Agree totally. It is rather sad to see. They never look younger either, just a bit odd.

Also, despite what someone said upthread, and despite what the PC brigade says, a female actor is an ACTRESS.

I have never, and WILL never call a female actor a bloody actor!

If it's all about 'equality,' then why not called actors actresses?

It's like the bloody green party, and their calling women 'non-men!' Fucking bollocks. Why not call men 'non-women?'

They are all so busy desperately trying to be 'right-on' and are ranting on so much about 'equality,' that they end up being more bastard sexist and misogynistic than the people who just say men and women, and actors and actresses!

@icecreamgirl94

I have naturally quite pronounced, pouty lips. I was relentlessly bullied at school by one particular girl who told me how ugly I was and called me fish lips. Now I get complimented on my lips and asked him much filler I’ve had. The bully has now also paid money to have someone inject gunk into her lips to make them far bigger than mine. She looks ridiculous and I always deliberately have a little snigger if I pass her on the street. Petty I know, but she made my school life a misery. It’s strange how fashions change.

Oh sweet poetic justice.

To those saying they "can't win" because they're criticized either way. You don't "win" (at what anyway, win life?) by avoiding any and all criticism, you win by being authentic and not succumbing to delusion. And what a delusion, to think you can somehow escape or delay the aging process. It's tragic.

The Dig has Carey Mulligan cast as a 50 something character (and the male character is played by a 50 something actor). The culture and pressure on women is vile.

Another example is Nicole Kidman in the Undoing recently - she didn’t look bad, she just no longer looks like her. It affected my enjoyment of her performance.

People always put down older women actresses who have had work done and say how sh-t they look and how lovely the looked before they had the work done. But the fact is that most of the time they were looking old and haggard. Now, I have no problem with old and haggard - I'm old and haggard! - but it's not like they were looking fab and then mysteriously went and had botox and a facelift for no reason.

Simon Cowell has completely buggered his looks with surgery too - why not just age as nature intended?

Another thing I hate in older celebrities is that they seem to think going super skinny makes them more youthful - Davina Mcall/Gerri Halliwell/and again Simon Cowell spring too mine.

They look awful and being that skinny only shows up the wrinkles more imo.....

@OutComeTheWolves

I'm more cross that there still exists a culture which encourages this. If women didn't feel the pressure to barely look like they'd aged, less would resort to Botox, fillers etc.

I agree. It’s absolutely tragic that we live in a world where the natural signs of ageing are treated like the stigmata of some horrific disfiguring disease. There are some women I feel really disappointed in, I really thought their sense of self was stronger.

You don't "win" (at what anyway, win life?) by avoiding any and all criticism, you win by being authentic and not succumbing to delusion

Does your job depend on you looking youthful? Thought not.

I think by the age of 74 a woman surely earns the right to do what she wants to her own face without being pitied and patronised.
And 'grow old gracefully' is just another way to tell older women to fade into the background.

@Tamingofthehamster

I feel more sad about the younger girls who have overdone the fillers and tattoos tbh.

Yeah I agree. When I was a kid. (1970s/1980s,) very few women had plastic surgery, and even when they did have a wee face lift, (like Joan Collins or Jane Fonda,) not only did they still look OK, as it was quite subtle, but also, they didn't have it til around the age of 45-50.

Now, some young women are having it in their TWENTIES. I actually know one girl who had her lips filled, at 19, and had bum implants and 21. Both procedures look AWFUL. But she thinks she looks amazing.

@5128gap

I think by the age of 74 a woman surely earns the right to do what she wants to her own face without being pitied and patronised. And 'grow old gracefully' is just another way to tell older women to fade into the background.

If they are in the public eye, people are going to comment, and they have the right to. It's a free country.

@gnomeisland

LindyLou2020

Nope. "Actresses" is a patronising belittling outmoded job description that implies a subset of the profession of actor.

I understand that "actress" is no longer a de rigueur term. But OP's post was about female actors and "Psurgery". To call her out for using a term that she innocently would not know, (as many people don't), was now deemed unacceptable, was a bit mean and deviating from the point she was making.

I think we should live and let live tbh BUT I do think that the more we see people with all of this work done, the more we get used to it, and then the people that are totally natural are eventually going to be the ones that look weird!

I thought Fern Britten looked lovely! Didn’t see a obvious “surgery” look at all. There are definitely those who take it too far though, it’s not a good look.

There were pictures of Demi Moore last weeks where she'd clearly undergone something like a lower face lift and some kind of lip procedure. It looked so bizarre. I can't imagine the pressure of being someone who's globally renowned for their beauty. It must be very hard to think 'I'll just let nature take its course'. And ironically the efforts to make themselves look more youthful often have the opposite effect.

You do wonder how someone like Madonna who has all the money and all the access to the very best doctors ends up looking the way she currently does. I think with fillers they look flattering to begin with and there's just a tipping point where the whole face looks puffed up.

And it's not just the women. Mickey Rourke has had some very bad surgery. And Dennis Quaid looks like he's had cheek fillers. But then he's recently married a 25 year old so I'm sure that puts a pressure on a 60 something man to stay youthful!

There are also a few male actors I can think of that look odd and I assume it's plastic surgery gone wrong.

One if the worst was Fenella Fielding. Yes now dead but from her beauty to a real mess

Jane Fonda looks amazing. Why don't celebs just find out who her surgeon is and say 'I'll have whatever Jane had thanks'.