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Husband resents me for debt

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wishes1111 · 02/02/2021 14:35

Hello

I'll try and explain as briefly as possible.

I was raised by my grandparents and lost them both within 3 years or each other to cancer (in their 60s). I've also had 6 miscarriages during and since.

I have been on antidepressants since age 14 and have a history of anxiety too.

My coping mechanism was to spend, I took loans out, ordered clothes, things I didn't need and racked up nearly £8000 in debt, exchanging my utter sadness and despair for temporary happiness.

After 2 years of paying the minimum payments, I realised I couldn't hide it anymore, interest was rising and I was struggling to cope and was losing the battle of keeping my head above water.

I earn £24,000 a year, my husband earns £40,000.

I admitted it all during a breakdown, he was angry and sad that I'd done this and especially since I'd hid it from him. I fully understood this and took responsibility for my actions. I entered a payment plan with stepchange and have kept up with payments over the past couple of years and it's slowly but surely reducing. I'm paying this myself, as well as £550 for my half of rent and £30 for my phone. The rest, I use for birthday presents, diesel, car insurance and tax and I'm left with little per month. I've also cleared my overdraft in this time.

I have taken no further loans out since entering my plan with stepchange.

My problem is, my Husband resents me for this. He is a saver, he won't spend unless he has to and he saves what he can (which is a good thing). I've tried my hardest to turn my life around and take responsibility.

He said he will resent me until it's all paid off which will be another couple of years. Some days he is lovely, others it's like he's punishing me for my mistakes. Digs here and there, cold towards me, brings up what I did.

I can't even explain how much I regret doing this but I can't live like this. If I have £10 left for the last week of the month and I need to get something such as tampons or some lunch stuff for work , he tells me to sort it out myself. I understand I'm not his responsibility but this is wearing me down.

He has more than enough in savings to clear my debt. I don't expect him to do that but know in a heartbeat I would do it for him if I knew it was weighing on his shoulders, adding anxiety to his life and and he'd made an effort to change.

I feel I can't go on this way, but when he's in a nice mood I love him so much, when he's in his resentful mood he makes me feel low and like he'll never move past it.

I'm waffling, I don't expect people to think he's in the wrong, I get it.

I guess I'm just hoping for a hand hold whilst suffering my latest miscarriage, dealing with a resentful husband and trying my hardest to not fall back into a deep depression x

OP posts:
PandemicAtTheDisco · 04/02/2021 14:23

I wouldn't be happy with anyone taking over my debt though. Can you trust your partner not to be resentful at paying it and won't it make your relationship less equal? I think I'd want the satisfaction of clearing it myself.

A sibling helped me out and I've always felt less respected by them and a bit of condescension from them. My parents are the only people now I accept money from and that does come with conditions.

toocold54 · 04/02/2021 14:29

I've made it very clear that I will leave if it continues. I told him I have survived childhood abuse, adoption, losing the people who bought me up, miscarriages and I would survive losing him too. I stood my ground for once and all of the kind posters on here made me realise I am strong and I don't need anybody to drag me down especially when I am healing.

With every update you give it is obvious that you are become stronger and starting to put yourself first more - well done OP!

I wouldn't be happy with anyone taking over my debt though. Can you trust your partner not to be resentful at paying it and won't it make your relationship less equal?

I do think this will happen. If he’s resentful now then he’s bound to be resentful that he’s had to spend his savings on you. However it wouldn’t be any worse than what it is now.

Cokie3 · 04/02/2021 14:29

@Throwntothewolves Please, just, at the very, very least. Just read all the OP's posts. (and then beep off).

Throwntothewolves · 04/02/2021 15:13

wishes111 I apologise. I hadn't read all your posts, just some of the things you said in your op struck a nerve as I had heard similar before. Clearly I still have issues with the situation I found myself in.
My Ex had issues from his childhood too, as well as bereavements and mental health problems resulting from it all. But he very much used it to get what he wanted, which doesn't sound like you at all. I appreciate not everyone is like him.

I'm sorry for all you've been through and I think you've done the right thing by talking to him. Please do the right thing by you. You should not be punished for past mistakes, especially as you're putting them right. He seems to have not realised how much you were struggling with it all. Hopefully now things will change. But if he starts making you feel bad again, consider whether you really want to stay with him

PrincessLeiaTheCat · 04/02/2021 15:15

OP, there are some big parallels here with my relationship.

I've been with DH for a couple of decades. In the early years of our relationship, he was studying full time. He failed his degree. I was very angry as I felt he failed as he was too stubborn to ask for the help he needed. He had to retake, which cost us a lot in lost earnings and uni fees. We were hoping to buy a property, but had to put it on hold whilst he retook. In the meantime, prices sky rocketed, putting a lot of properties out of our reach. The flat we ended up buying would have cost £30,000 less if we'd bought it 3 years earlier.

I was so angry with him. But looking back on it, it is clear that he finds studying really, really hard. I can't hold that against him. He can't help who he is. I do sometimes still feel angry, but more about the hand we have been dealt than towards DH.

Similarly, your husband shouldn't hold that debt against you. You have been through so much. Anyway, it is not even that much money in the big scheme of things.

Wishing you all the best.

Bumblebee1980a · 04/02/2021 15:43

Hello @wishes1111

Sounds like you've been through an awful lot. Spending money like you have done comes under the umbrella term of 'addiction'. Addiction is all around us and some are considered more socially acceptable than others (drugs addicts vs work alcoholic).

Can I recommend In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction by Gabor Maté.

It talks about addictions being a symptom of distress. If you were feeling good about yourself you wouldn't be spending money with money you haven't got. It's escapism and from what?

Maybe after you have read it you could suggest your partner read it.

From the sounds of it he is lacking empathy for you even when (from what you say) you've trying to make it right by contacting Step Change and paying your debts back. Maybe he wants you to take responsibility for it and that's ok. Maybe she need you to take control if it (managing your own money ; seeking therapy).
However I don't think he should be punishing you.

combatbarbie · 04/02/2021 16:03

Your updates are showing strength OP and its lovely to see. Only one question, will stepchange or the lenders allow the debt to be settled in full? I'm not well versed with DMPs.

chillied · 04/02/2021 16:14

OP I'm pleased if he is going to pay off your debts. DH and I would do this for each other in a heartbeat, in fact we have done so a few times (transferred money to clear the overdraft of the other). I've just supported DH through 9 months of no job. Other times he's been doing better than me.

We would both recognise how awful prolonged debt can make you feel, and frankly in your case I would much rather the clearing of the debt than a holiday to Cyprus. Bit of a slap in the face frankly, for him to think, it's worth paying for a holiday but not for tampons or not to have to scrimp and save on groceries.

Bluntness100 · 04/02/2021 16:18

Well op, are you going to let him use his savings to pay your debt?

TatianaBis · 04/02/2021 16:25

Mind your own business @Bluntness you've done enough goading for one thread.

WagnerTheWehrWolf · 04/02/2021 16:26

no lies detected there

NoWordForFluffy · 04/02/2021 16:34

@Bluntness100

Well op, are you going to let him use his savings to pay your debt?
His earnings / savings are family money, surely?
BaileysforBreakfast · 04/02/2021 16:38

Table for Five (Just for information: your poor credit will affect his and your joint rating because you share the same address.)

This is not true. Credit checks are done on PEOPLE, not couples and not addresses.

NoWordForFluffy · 04/02/2021 16:41

Sharing joint accounts links credit scores, but marriage and living together don't.

Smallgoon · 04/02/2021 16:48

@TatianaBis

Mind your own business *@Bluntness* you've done enough goading for one thread.
My thoughts exactly. Bore off.
Smallgoon · 04/02/2021 16:49

His earnings / savings are family money, surely?

Not according to @Bluntness100 and her ilk. Clearly in their eyes marriage is survival of the fittest. LOL

Hellothere19999 · 04/02/2021 16:54

Wow, this thread blew up!!!! OP, I just wanted to drop on and say I’m glad you discussed things and are feeling better. Your life sounds like it has been quite hard at times, trust me I know people in far more debt than you and they have no family trauma and don’t even see any issue with bouncing from credit card to credit card. Tell the trolls to get fucked. Concentrate on your marriage and working hard, it sounds like you’ve done really well so far to pay off your debts. Well done ❤️

God bless X

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NoWordForFluffy · 04/02/2021 16:58

@Smallgoon

His earnings / savings are family money, surely?

Not according to @Bluntness100 and her ilk. Clearly in their eyes marriage is survival of the fittest. LOL

😂😂
wishes1111 · 04/02/2021 17:05

I'm definitely ignoring the trolls from now on and just have to say again a massive thank you to all the women (or men) who've commented support. It's helped me a great deal ❤️

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AnnieSnap · 04/02/2021 17:19

@Idontknowausername

I think he’s entirely within his right to resent you. You’re lucky he’s stayed with you tbh. I don’t think many women on here would stay with their husbands if the roles were reversed.
I don’t agree with this at all. It seems very intolerant to me. The OP is taking responsibility and paying off her own debt. She hasn’t asked her husband to help her with that. Human beings are fallible, many use ‘crutches’ to cope with stress and depression. Among those are dysfunctional use of alcohol, drugs, food, shopping. Real love means giving support to a partner until/unless their coping style is damaging you. I think the OP’s husband is failing to show her love and support here.
chaosrabbitland · 04/02/2021 17:24

to be frank although you were the one in the wrong ,his behaviour would make me leave him now , i would not be putting up with constant pathetic punishment esp when your sorting it , statements like il resent you until its cleared and sort it out yourself when you need some tiny thing to buy would have me saying bye bye im afraid . he sounds controlling and cold and not someone id want to be spending the rest of my life with

Marley20 · 04/02/2021 17:30

Crickey this thread has exploded since I last posted. Just read your updates OP, well done. It sounds like you've had a really hard time but hopefully you and your DH are back on track. He had no right to resent you for this imo but it sounds like he's had his own troubles. Good luck to you both xx

Bookwords · 04/02/2021 18:25

Not according to @Bluntness100 and her ilk. Clearly in their eyes marriage is survival of the fittest. LOL

Some people have a very weird view on marriage! Bizarre!

Zanina · 04/02/2021 18:26

I can't believe how many times op has had to repeat herself for goodness sake.

Op you're doing really well and really glad to see your husband has realised the consequences of his actions. You have a really good insight into yours and your husbands feelings. And it's lovely that he has booked a holiday for you both, just shows that he loves you and recognises that you both need to restart this chapter.

I also wanted to recommend cupping for the endo. It's known to help with menstrual and fertility issues.

Wish you all the best op xxx

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