To let the kids play out at 8am on a Sunday?

[Oysterbabe]

There's snow! It won't stick around for long, it's forecast to turn to rain in the next hour and is already starting to disappear. I let the kids out to build a snowman and play from 8, they were nagging from 6:30. They're aren't screaming but are laughing and making general playing noise. They are 3 and 5. It's lovely to see them having a bit of excitement and something different in their bored locked down lives. Is this unreasonable on the neighbours? We live in a private cul de sac with 10 other houses.
Are there really people who would want to deny small children the chance of a little bit of fun? We're usually very good neighbours and snow is a very infrequent occurrence here.

Here the snow was very wet and turning to slush by 10, no good for throwing or building, and gone aside from the snowmen by about 12. It was a case of let them out to play a bit too early or miss the chance. They had so much fun and I've enjoyed seeing my social media full of snowmen and smiling faces today.
This is the first decent amount of snow we've had in 2 years, so certainly not a regular event. Normally I keep them in until 9 in the week and 10 on Sundays even in the height of summer.
My neighbours are reasonable people, none of them have complained, but I was wondering if they might be secretly furious!

I think it depends a bit - are you likely to have complained if older folk had gone out in it last night when it first fell (here) but possibly your dc were then asleep ?

Locally to me, there were several 8 - 15 yr olds out playing in the snow after dark, when it started to come down.

I have been disturbed by our neighbours in the past whilst trying to put my 2 to bed and felt mildly irritated, I wouldn't have complained as they weren't doing anything wrong. On one side my neighbours are a brother and sister who are 19 and 21 and students. In the summer they sometimes sit out chatting and drinking with their friends until quite late. The other side is a family with 4 primary aged children. On one occasion they let off fireworks in their garden at about 8:30pm. There's 1 other young family and the other houses are occupied by older people or childless couples.
I feel that living a heavily populated area is always going to involve a certain amount of putting up with eachother. As long as no one takes the piss too much then it's OK.

I'm child-free and up on weekdays at 5am. If your kids woje me at 8am on a Sunday I'd have sonething to say about it.

I live rurally in north Scotland where snow is not an unusual event at all, in fact we've had a lot this year and my DC couldn't care less about snow now we are 3/4 weeks into a cold snap. I still would never begrudge kids the fun of playing out in the snow!

I am a right miserable bah humbug who values sleep above all else and hates noise but even I wouldn’t begrudge child noise at 8am on a snow day!! I was actually woken at 9 by my adult neighbours shrieking in excitement at the snow and damn well joined in!

@Witchcraftandhokum

I'm child-free and up on weekdays at 5am. If your kids woje me at 8am on a Sunday I'd have sonething to say about it.

I'd have something to say back too.

Throwaway99 I'm sure you would. You seem like the type.

Sunday is my one lie in of the week.

8am is definitely too early for a standard sunday, but a snowy Sunday?

I’m glad they went out and had a great time op.

I’m just jealous that we had no snow here!

I couldn't give monkeys if I lived next door to you, and I could hear your kids playing and having fun, snow day or no.

This may sound snarky, but it's an honest question, why are people so desperate for a lie-in? I realise people are tired, but why not go to bed early instead? Extra sleep is extra sleep...

I was going to come on and say YABU but ...SNOW!!

Hope they enjoyed it!

This may sound snarky, but it's an honest question, why are people so desperate for a lie-in? I realise people are tired, but why not go to bed early instead? Extra sleep is extra sleep....

because they have neighbours from hell who keep them awake?
because they finish work late?
because their kids don't fall asleep early?
because they have work /homeschool to prepare for?
because they are studying and it's their only time?

i don't know, why do you think it's so easy to give up on your evenings entirely and go to bed "early"?

I took my DS 2 out into the garden last week at 8am on a Sunday because we'd woken up to snow on the ground and he'd never experienced it before. I checked the weather forecast and it was due to rain within the next hour so I took him out sharpish. By 9am it was raining and by 9:30 the snow was all but gone so I'm glad I did take him out when I did.

I think your last post has answered it then.
Like most people in the country, you live near neighbours.

Sometimes their noise disturbs you a bit and, whilst irritating at the time, you let it go, as you understand that's what rational people do - a bit of give and take. Indeed, it might even make some of us think that, it is a nice place to live as these disturbances are only occasional.
There's probably not many that enjoy a lie-in more than I do, so, if you had dc out there every Sunday morning that early I would come and try to have a chat with you about it but, as you say this is a one off, for snow, which is the first you've had in 2 years and wasn't due to settle, then, like most right minded folk I'd have tried to cover the noise with my pillow, huffed a bit and got over it.

It's over now anyway until the next time whenever that is, no harm done and hopefully the children enjoyed the snow.

@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer

This may sound snarky, but it's an honest question, why are people so desperate for a lie-in? I realise people are tired, but why not go to bed early instead? Extra sleep is extra sleep....

because they have neighbours from hell who keep them awake?
because they finish work late?
because their kids don't fall asleep early?
because they have work /homeschool to prepare for?
because they are studying and it's their only time?

i don't know, why do you think it's so easy to give up on your evenings entirely and go to bed "early"?

Then: "because they have neighbours from hell who keep them awake?" then those neighbours are the problem, not the kids playing early or people cutting their crass b efore 10/11 "because they finish work late?", yep, that's valid, but what about people who work different hours and early mornings are their 'free time'? "because their kids don't fall asleep early?" true, but how late is late sleeping? And how many people who like a lie-in does that affect, and how much should everyone else have to structure their life around it? "because they have work /homeschool to prepare for?" well if they're lying in the next morning, why can't they do it then? "because they are studying and it's their only time?" but if they get to sleep in in the morning it's not their only time, they could do it then?

"i don't know, why do you think it's so easy to give up on your evenings entirely and go to bed "early"?"
My point is that the argument against other people doing things before a 'reasonable' time at the weekend is based on some people's need to sleep more. But why should some people 'give up their early mornings' because another group want more sleep but don't want to 'give up their evenings'?

@Witchcraftandhokum

Throwaway99 I'm sure you would. You seem like the type.

Pot kettle black? Would you really have a go at someone who's kid had a one off play in the snow in the middle of a once in a century pandemic?

I mean COME ON

Of course she would @HauntedPencil because she seems ‘the type.’

8 am usually too early unless snowing when all bets are off

Well unless you are that random family that decided my cul de sac was the perfect place for a snowball fight. Wouldn’t have been so bad if it wasn’t the adults screaming more than the 3 kids

There’s also a park just up the road where they could have had a socially distanced snowball fight at 8am

@PietariKontio People are answering that it is too early ( generally, not as a one off in the snow) because they are aware that it is likely that most people are likely to still be lying in at 8am on a Sunday morning. Of course there will be exceptions. However, considerate people think "what is normal for a lot of people" before doing things that might disturb them. I am very rarely in bed before midnight, however I wouldn't phone someone after about 9pm, because that is the acceptable cut off time for phoning people. Sometimes, on a Saturday my dh gets up at 6am because he needs to be somewhere, but he is aware that is isn't a 'socially acceptable time' to make a noise or disturb other people.
8am on a (usual) Sunday falls into that category. My dc are late teens / young adults who - as it typical for taht age group - tend to stay up until the early hours and lie in in the mornings, but I have drilled into them they need to keep the noise down after 10 ish, as that is when other folk might start going to bed. etc etc etc People are talking about "norms" to which there will be lots of exceptions which we can't always work round, but normal, considerate people try to be quiet outside of those norms.

As a grumpy childless couple who love our lye ins I can say I really would not care.

In this country, it's accepted that Sunday mornings are quieter. Even building work is prohibited by many councils. Everybody knows it. Even shops open later.

You have to be a special kind of CF to decide that people are no longer allowed to have a chance to sleep and start making noise early just because you feel like it .

And no, you shouldn't have to "use your evenings" instead, how ridiculous. Where does it stop?

Accepted by who?

Who accepts that Sunday mornings are quieter @Iknowwhatudidlastsummer ?

Gone are those days, shops open, hairdressers open, barbers open, parcel deliveries.

Maybe in the 1959s, but not now!

Glad you took your kids out at they managed to enjoy the snow. Fingers crossed it snows again on Sunday!