To ask what you think of Feminism? (Pic included)

[Newfor2021]

After viewing this image.

I suddenly feel conflicted about whether I’m a feminist or not!

YABU - go earn your money!
YANBU - family first

Am I a feminist - hell, yes!

When my DD was tiny I had a revelation that this was the first time that my personal strengths and hard work were directly and completely benefitting me and mine. I absolutely don't see caring for my family as slavery.

But I do see children as an equal responsibility of both parents, and when a couple decide how they will share out these responsibilities, the mother's preferences and well-being should have as much weight as the father's. Social expectations should play no part. This is feminism.

I was entitled to go back into my old job with the same pay after a year maternity leave. This was a protection fought for as part of feminism.

I found leaving my DD to go back to work really hard. I respected the choice some of my friends made to be SAHMs. But in my industry it's very hard to re-enter after a break and I love my work, so I made a choice to go back after maternity leave. 7 years later, I'm very happy I was free to make that choice. This is feminism.

I'd love parents (both Mums and Dad's) to have even more freedom to take off more time with small children with confidence that they could re-enter the workplace, and also more flexible working. This is an ongoing fight of feminism.

Whilst working, I expect the same pay and opportunities as men doing the same job to the same standard. If I am discriminated against, there are laws to protect me. This is feminism.

If I set up my own business I should have the same access to credit as a man in the same situation. This is feminism.

I expect the same health care and the same legal protection as a man. This is feminism.

That meme? It's just a nonsense.

It's these embarrassing ideas or "jokes" who ridicule what real feminism is, make a joke of feminists and keep women back.

If you ever wanted to fight feminism, that's exactly what you would use.

As his parents we provide for him

That's right. Both parents provide. No woman should serve a man. We are not servants to anyone, even our own children. That's why we teach our children to take responsibility.

As a feminist I look at that and think ‘what a load of anti feminist clap trap’

It’s not exactly subtle

I'm a feminist and disagree with your picture. My genitals have no bearing on my job or what % of house chores I do.

@MissingLinker

Personally, I think The Female Eunuch gave a better insight... But who can argue with a meme?

Anyone who thinks that feminists don't value mothers and child rearing doesn't understand feminism.

Err I wft as does husband. He has 2 days of like I do. We share things and he also cooks and bakes. Why should a man not do this as well

You think the person who created that stupid meme gets to define what feminism is?

That's not what feminism is at all. Feminism values a woman's abilities and contribution, whether that's paid work, parenting, housework or something else.

Fuck's sake - why do women have to 'serve' anyone.

It is telling that meme could not even imagine a woman as a free and equal citizen, instead she is always in service to someone.

Are men 'serving' their employers or doing decent worthwhile manly work for a manly pay check?

What a pile of misogynist shite.

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what feminism means.

It’s not a choice between whether you “serve” your family or your employer. You should not “serve” either. And it’s not a binary choice between family or employer.

Feminism is about creating a world that eliminates these arbitrary and false “choices” and redistributes the labour: both domestic and paid labour, between the sexes more fairly.

This sort of poisonous backlash is designed by people who want to prevent that.

Shitposting.

What a load of shite.

The OP was posted in the middle of the night by someone who hasn't come back, with a username that implies they have just joined. I'm going to guess it's a right wing American, probably male, trying to plant doubts in the head of all us women who don't know our place.

@TheQueenRaven

I've not voted but for me feminism is about giving women choices. If some of us choose to stay home with our children we shouldn't be denigrated (sadly that happens on the MN FWR board).

Choosing to stay at home with your children should not make you a servant, though. The meme seems to suggest that women serving their families is a position which needs to be socially rehabilitated.

Also (and this is a general point, not related to your situation), I wonder to what extent the choice is a genuine one. I wonder if we might find that women would go back to work and leave their husbands to look after the children if they felt that their husbands were as competent and committed in this area as they themselves are. How often do we see women on here who cannot trust their husbands with the kids for one morning? This sort of strategic incompetence serves to remove genuine choice from women.

And do you base all your political opinions on memes?

In which case can someone post a meme that accurately explains feminism?

Here we are.

@wellthatsunusual - I think you're right.
The OP won't be back. I suspect he's sharing his meme with as many women as possible.

I thought Feminism was believing in and standing up for the rights of women.
Nothing to do with whether you work or not.
That’s just a personal choice or circumstantial.

@JesusInTheCabbageVan - in a nutshell.
That's why feminism is so radical of course.

@wellthatsunusual

The OP was posted in the middle of the night by someone who hasn't come back, with a username that implies they have just joined. I'm going to guess it's a right wing American, probably male, trying to plant doubts in the head of all us women who don't know our place.

Bet they thought it was a really intelligent "gotcha" too.

Damn. My pinny doesn't have frills.

I'm too fat for my prairie dress.

Why would you open a hot oven in a toddlers face?
I can’t stand baking and even I know that.

But then I use the money I earn in my job to buy cakes from shops instead of making them. Clearly womaning wrong again.

Why would you open a hot oven in a toddlers face?

You just can't get the servants these days.