To ask you if there was a general election today, who would you vote for?

[Ponderousness]

Just curious really. Seen a lot of hate for the governments handling of various things but they did recently win by a landslide and I’m not sure if people truly believe the opposition could do better.

So if it was just red or blue and there were a vote today, who would you vote for?

I’d vote Labour.

YABU - Conservative
YANBU - Labour

Anything but Conservatives.

@savemymuu

'raise taxes'

I've really never understood this line of thinking. A few extra quid in the bank or a kinder society which looks after the less fortunate? It's Trump vs Biden all over.

Labour.
The conservatives will find it very hard to win the next election and enough people will be ready for a change.

yabu

Difference between Labour and Tories at present is like shit and shite frankly.

Utter bollocks.

Labour.

Conservative

@ItWasTheBestOfTimes

I seriously don't understand the mindset of people who think Starmer would do a worse job representing us on the world stage than Johnson. Boring, yes, but decent, clever and presumably competent having gone from working class roots to QC and DPP. DP was a previous Tory voter as he didn't want corporation tax rises but he is now a never-Tory until the grown ups return to the party. The disastrous handling of the pandemic, rampant cronyism and inflicting this version of Brexit on us when we have COVID and all the other pressures of winter such as flooding etc means I will never vote for them again. I am usually a floating voter.

Good summary. I don’t know why more people don’t see this.

Labour, would prefer Nandy as leader but still would vote Labour

I couldn't vote for either but if I was forced then I'd have to go Tory for the first time in my life as they at least know the difference between male and female. Labour wants to make everything mixed sex and not allow any single sex provision.

YABU to ask - my vote and who I vote for is my business and noone elses. So YABU To ask who I would vote

Labour. I always have, sometimes reluctantly, but I would walk over hot coals to vote for anyone that had a good chance of getting the Tories out. If I lived somewhere where it was Lib Dem to get them out I'd go that way - whatever it takes.

I'm surprised by the people here saying things like 100% Conservative. I know a fair few Tory supporters, and my parents know a load more, who are utterly horrified by this government and starting to look at Starmer and think he doesn't look too bad. I can only assume the Tories on here who have no qualms about remaining so have extremely right-wing views, because moderates are appalled by what has gone on.

And as for saying Starmer can't represent us on the world stage but Johnson can...What.The.Fuck? The man in an absolute embarrassment. Had to be told off by an ambassador as foreign secretary for reciting a racist poem in a Buddhist temple and turned up for crucial talks with the EU president looking like this:
www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.4432221.1607555120!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg

Sack of shit. A disgrace. Just two teeny example of the shameful way he has conducted himself in office. Lies every week in HoC... And those trotting out his pathetic Captain Hindsight line obviously think he's great - I don't get it.

Starmer. Just a better human being, far superior intellectually and morally AND he’s not a Tory.

@MrsSteveMcDonald

I couldn't vote for either but if I was forced then I'd have to go Tory for the first time in my life as they at least know the difference between male and female. Labour wants to make everything mixed sex and not allow any single sex provision.

How do you know this? No manifesto is out yet and Starmer has skirted around the issue (which I agree is disappointing, especially re Rosie Duffield. Anyone who votes Tory as an act of feminism...well, another thing I just don't get. It's deluded to think they give stuff about women.

Tory 100% for women and girls rights

@muminabin

Which policies do you mean? As far as I know the Tory policies with regards to women are pitiful.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-women-conservatives-boris-johnson-labour-lib-dems-a9190566.html

Neither particularly floats my boat, but I can't help but feel if Labour got in they'd been running around like headless chickens not knowing who to blame .

[quote Suzeyshoes]@savemymuu

'raise taxes'

I've really never understood this line of thinking. A few extra quid in the bank or a kinder society which looks after the less fortunate? It's Trump vs Biden all over.[/quote]
I think I understand.

Everyone with a gripe with this Govt - parents getting sweet FA in the lunch box, teenagers with their lives on hold, anyone with a relative in a care home, freelances not getting furlough, anyone waiting for a legal case to go through and not getting legal aid... it's all disparate. All have a beef but there's no real solidarity.

As the Russian author wrote: 'Happy families are all happy in the same way, unhappy families are unhappy in their own individual way...'

Tbf, Trump got this. He was unique it seems in marshalling the support of all the disenchanted under one flag. Now, some of them are/were quite weird and disturbing, and it's just the same with Corbyn - there were some dodgy types among them because if you stand with the disenchanted, there will be some damaged and pissed off folk there. You'll be tarred by association.

Add to that there's the class thing in England. Yes, some will be disenchanted but do they want to stand with ruffians? There's that mentality you get less of in the US, arguably.

Now, the Tories don't raise taxes. To address society's ills, you need to do that usually, and that's Labour policy.
Problem is, once you do that - bang! At once you have a standing army of pissed off people with a common cause. All ready to vote for the other party. The Tories are careful to avoid that.
The Tories tend to target those on the edges of society. Others may not even see what's going on - in care homes set aside from the town centre in leafy avenues, or in prisons that nobody visits. If they know, well, often the line is that you don't need to know or they deserve it or it was inevitable etc

What Secret Barrister has revealed in their best-selling book is a scandal by the Tories. But if you're not in prison, if you haven't been jailed unjustly or stuck without bail or trial for a year or more, frankly, it won't affect you. Hearing about it may even make you feel relatively better about your lot. Same with the miners - not economically viable, dumped on but as a young teen I didn't care. I wasn't unsympathetic entirely, but they're good at targeting a particular section and not everyone.

Higher taxes? They do tend to affect everyone.

Hate Boris, but Captain Hindsight is a wet wipe.

I’d vote Green.

Not one if the main two

Its quite sad that we are now so many of us have little confidence in any of them.

I don't think we will see boris standing for another election , I think tories will have a new leader for that , maybe rishi or someone.
Not sure kier is one to lead labour either and lib dems have just quietly slipped away bit by bit.
All parties are so out if touch

Also all those never Tory means you are never looking at current leaders and policies when making your vote. Last labour goverment were crap for me and I struggled to feed my kids under them and ither policies that affected my family, but different leader now and if policies were things that i agreed with , I would vote for them, rather than say I would never vote x, y z

I'd spoil it, given those two choices only. If I'm allowed a genuine vote on choices available, Plaid for a chance of Welsh independence.

I would vote Conservative.

Conservative