To ask you if there was a general election today, who would you vote for?

[Ponderousness]

Just curious really. Seen a lot of hate for the governments handling of various things but they did recently win by a landslide and I’m not sure if people truly believe the opposition could do better.

So if it was just red or blue and there were a vote today, who would you vote for?

I’d vote Labour.

YABU - Conservative
YANBU - Labour

Labour, but with reluctance, because I think they could do a lot better than they are.

Conservatives. Local MP is fantastic, plus this is a Tory area. A labour vote would be a waste anyway

I am dyed in the wool tory. If there was an election today, I would not vote. I couldn't vote labour as to me they are still very anti-semetic and utterly disorganised. I can't vote tory after the utter shambles of handling their mates contracts for testing and ppe, not to mention the Cummings episode, the constant u turns and now feeding children. I have yet to decide who to vote for in future, if any of them are actually worth my vote

Conservatives. I think they’ve made mistakes for sure but I think labour would’ve done even worse.

Conservative without a doubt

No to BoJo.

@Kazziek

I am dyed in the wool tory. If there was an election today, I would not vote. I couldn't vote labour as to me they are still very anti-semetic and utterly disorganised. I can't vote tory after the utter shambles of handling their mates contracts for testing and ppe, not to mention the Cummings episode, the constant u turns and now feeding children. I have yet to decide who to vote for in future, if any of them are actually worth my vote

This is utterly refreshing to read...someone who has actually seen how shambolic this government has been. I just sincerely hope there are more people like you

Labour.

I don't think that's necessarily true. I've been on MN a long time and there was a lot more support for the Labour party 10 years ago and far fewer people talked about being a Tory voter back then. So there's been a shift.

The forum was a lot smaller then and had delusions that it had finger on the pulse of what the wider UK wanted, it wasn't helped by Justines ties by proxy to the Guardian and the prominent posters being from working class backgrounds because thier great grandfather was a miner up, despite growing up in the home counties with middle class parents.

As a whole MN has been politically on the wrong side on all major elections, those that have come good and had a multitude of gushing posts have since gone quite, see Trudeau, Macron, et al.

There was such a time that when any working class woman who was struggling complained about the benefit system not being fair to low paid workers was met with such hilarity of spamming the thread to 1000 posts about goats and big screen tv's, yet suddenly when the Tories brought in the cap of up to 26K was met with utter disdain without a hint of irony.

Any run up to an election on MN is flooded with Labour activists so much so, that any mention of any form of labour critisim is met with Tory HQ/daily mail esc hillarity.

MN is so out of touch it was a hotbed for being so pro corbyn people where unironically posting that they could never be friends with anyone who doesn't vote the same way.

MN and politics has been a hillarious decade long case study

Labour.

Any run up to an election on MN is flooded with Labour activists so much so, that any mention of any form of labour critisim is met with Tory HQ/daily mail esc hillarity yes or accusing posters of being paid shills

Neither

It's getting to the point where I'm struggling to think of something a Conservative government would do to stop people voting for them.

They've literally taken food from hungry children and pocketed the cash and that's still fine. If people hadn't spoken up they'd still be doing it.

Neither - YABU because there's more than the two shit show parties you've suggested.

I'd go Lib Dems.

My area is also a super safe Tory seat. I didn't vote Tory, but I knew my vote wouldn't make an ounce of difference.

I also agree that another party probably wouldn't have managed the situation very well either, but then I felt the same way even before the pandemic.

They all, both Tory and Labour, live in Ivory Towers, they haven't got a bloody clue

It's getting to the point where I'm struggling to think of something a Conservative government would do to stop people voting for them.

raise taxes

To vote Tory after this pandemic, is to have lost the plot.

@Screwcorona

Conservative 100%

Seriously, how could you?

Generally I vote for whoever looks most likely to beat the right wing (Tories/Ukip etc), so usually Labour but I have voted Lib Dem when it looked like they stood a chance.

I'm very hopeful that Starmer gives the country the best chance of a left leaning government. There are others I'd prefer, but I think he's most likely to appeal to the floating voters and really, all I want is the fucking Tories out.

My local SNP MP is consistently available to the public, happy to stop and chat in the street with people, regularly gets out canvassing and knocking doors himself.

You're lucky. Mine is completely useless, doesn't answer emails, just ruins the area. Keeps getting voted in though, and he knows he's safe, that's why he doesn't bother. He will keep his job due to location only.

My area is a safe Tory seat, which means none of the other parties even bother to put up a decent candidate. Its very hard to choose when the Tory candidate is the picture of wealthy entitlement and nepotism, the Lib Dem just discovered there are poor people and the Labour candidate was lovely but young and clearly supported by no set up or staff at all. At one point we had a BNP candidate. He was at least good for a laugh. He didn't seem to know where he was at the debate. Given the choice of the same 3 again I would vote for Labour.

I could not vote for "Sir" Kier Starmer- a grinning, slick-haired nauseating hypocrite. Toady to Corbyn when it suited him to grease up to that buffoon. Tried every slimy lawyer's trick to derail Brexit and failed.

So it would be anyone but Labour.

@Justanotherlurker

What were/are Justine’s links by proxy to the Guardian?

I seriously don't understand the mindset of people who think Starmer would do a worse job representing us on the world stage than Johnson. Boring, yes, but decent, clever and presumably competent having gone from working class roots to QC and DPP. DP was a previous Tory voter as he didn't want corporation tax rises but he is now a never-Tory until the grown ups return to the party. The disastrous handling of the pandemic, rampant cronyism and inflicting this version of Brexit on us when we have COVID and all the other pressures of winter such as flooding etc means I will never vote for them again. I am usually a floating voter.

Wow, there's a lot of hatred on this thread.

I'm a swing voter. Would vote ANYBODY other than the Tories right now. I honestly believe that those who think the current gov is doing a good job are either high on crack or living in a cave. It's a total shit show.

Boris Johnson is a mini Trump, thoroughly corrupt and selfish, and his government is useless. We have the highest rate of deaths in the world and are one of the only countries in lockdown at the moment but some are saying Labour couldn't any better . They certainly couldn't have done any worse. I honestly think that anyone who voted for Johnson has blood on their hands. It was all to be expected.

I really like Sir Keir. He's a a really clever, decent person. Think we need some more of that. He's Biden to Johnson's Trump.